Rocked and Loaded
AH enthusiast
Exactly. People have been sacrificing people (including children) for millennia and the reason hasn’t really changed. All done in self interest.
This is false, Kamala was born in California and it doesn’t matter what her parents status was. We ought to change that law ( amendment).
Aren’t all citizens equals?This is false, Kamala was born in California and it doesn’t matter what her parents status was. We ought to change that law ( amendment).
So what happens to the unused viable embryos? There have to be some right? You said they fertilize multiple eggs at one time and on day 5 report how many are embryos. A woman only wants 2 kids but produces 5 viable embryos. Do they just test one at a time and if viable implant it or do they test all at once?
Am I missing something here?
I also realize I may have come off as harsh towards @LivingTheDream and I’d like to apologize for that.
Not this crap again, Kamala is a natural born citizen. Her parents’ status does not matter.
All people doing IVF are not the same or going about it the same way. Many of your assumptions are incorrect and don’t apply to everyone doing IVF.If you view an embryo as a human life then IVF can not be ethical as the discarding of them would violate the do no harm principle. I don’t have to participate in euthanasia either in order to condemn it.
I would imagine you’re right. They are wrong nonetheless.
Hmmmm. They are demanding hiring and promotions based on merit, not quotas? Perhaps a conversation with a Democrat might show them the error of their ways. Diversity and inclusion based on sexual preference, etc., is far more important.Bit of info for the people wondering about what is causing the rioting etc in Bangladesh......
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Bangladesh protests: What sparked the anger that toppled Sheikh Hasina?
Bangladesh is at a historic turning point after its PM of 15 years fled the country amid public anger.www.bbc.com
It should. In most of the world, jus sanguinis is the rule where at least 1 parent had to be a citizen of the country where the child is born. A great many of them require both parents to be citizens. For the US, at least, this would put a halt to much of our illegal immigration, I think.Not this crap again, Kamala is a natural born citizen. Her parents’ status does not matter.
Aren’t all citizens equals?
I’m genuinely happy for you and your wife. I mean that sincerely.All people doing IVF are not the same or going about it the same way. Many of your assumptions are incorrect and don’t apply to everyone doing IVF.
I met my wife after she applied for a job and was hired by my boss at a company where I was also a manager. She was a recently divorced mother of two great kids. She left an abusive marriage, which took a lot of strength, considering she had a 3.5 year-old daughter and a 1.5 year-old son. We started dating and I developed a love for her and her kids. Unfortunately, she had a tubal ligation after her son was born. Later, we decided to get married and she agreed beforehand to try IVF with me. I wanted kids of my own. I am the oldest son of my parents and my dad and my grandfather were also the oldest sons of their parents. I wanted to carryon the family name with a son of my own. Adoption wasn’t desired by me as I already had two stepchildren from her that I raised as if they were/are my own and we also wanted children together.
Being Christians, we spoke with our Pastor about IVF and came up with a plan that the doctors were very happy to comply with. My wife took the hormone shots and produced several eggs. Four eggs were fertilized with my sperm. Three became viable embryos while one was said to be unviable. According to the plan, all four were implanted and we accepted the risks of a multiple birth. We left that up to God. Later, we learned that two of the embryos successfully implanted. Our twins (boy and girl) were born six weeks early but made it home safely a couple weeks later. Both of them are entirely healthy, happy, successful adults now and all four of our kids are very close to us and each other.
As with anything, there is more than one way to do things and I don’t believe IVF should be outlawed or looked down upon just because some people might not do it the way we did. We feel we did it right, according to our beliefs, and couples with our beliefs shouldn’t be prevented from doing IVF the same way we did it.
As for the other unfertilized eggs, we kept them frozen for several years in case something happened to the twins and in case we wanted more kids. Fortunately the twins were healthy so we had the eggs discarded and did not donate them to other women who could have used them. All of these choices were offered to us but we did everything our own way. We didn’t discard any embryos. Eggs are not embryos and obviously, a woman naturally discards at least one egg each month anyway. As for sperm, I’ve naturally discarded lots of sperm and I’m going to guess that you have done the same! Lol.
So they test all at once. So if she had 5 get to day 5 and they all came back viable, then they select one and do a transfer. If she both transfers were successful, and she would have 3 others, they could be frozen indefinitely, donated to another couple or discarded.
So to your point, I'm sure it does happen. But statistically speaking it would be extremely rare. For example transfers with a viable embryo have about a 60% success rate.
As an example:
Round 1 - 10 eggs, 9 Fertilized, 1 Embryo, Tested Non Viable
Round 2 - 4 eggs, 4 Fertilized, 4 Embryo, 2 Viable, 2 Non Viable, 1 Successful Transfer, 1 Fail Transfer
Round 3 - 8 eggs, 7 Fertilized, 0 Embryos
Another couple I know
Round 1 - 17 eggs, 11 Fertilized, 1 Embryo , Tested Non Viable
Round 2 - 16 eggs, 11 Fertilized, 3 Embryos, 1 Non-Viable, 1 Successful Transfer, 1 Viable still frozen.
I can run off more of these, but wanted to show how the numbers drop and drop fast. The other couples I know have no viable embryos left. You pretty much keep doing it until you have no available viable embryos left.
Not sure this helps at all, but hope it provides a little bit more information.