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.243 Win makes an ideal cartridge for Woodland Roe (and Muntjac). Within its limits (imho) up to 150 yrds, I see no need for a bigger round. 150 yrds is more than enough for typical British woodland stalking on Roe. I have shot Roe with my 8 x 60 but it doesn't kill them any quicker. Here is...

My 88 year old Mom just bought me this for my birthday. Classy lady . Puma Gamewarden made in 1960

I must have been living under a rock for 60+ years! Until yootube popped that film onto my feed I had never heard of the fellow. Since then I have found several other video's relating to him.

If for some reason I had to get rid of the 8 x 60r , .243 and my beloved 222 , I would get a 7 x 57. I reckon with one of those (along with the venerable .22lr) I would have things pretty much covered rifle-wise.

Not sure if this has been posted before. It popped up on YouTube so I thought I would share; ENTREVISTA COM SASHA SIEMEL - TIGRERO | FILME DE SASHA SIEMEL - 1965

Apparently it tastes as bad as the spelling

A very clear and fullsome explanation. Thank you.

Correct. I shouldn't have added the "R" at the end of 8x57 So the question still stands. Neck up 8 x 57 rimless? Would that work?

I called a work colleague once who had left early. I called him on his mobile, which he often left at work, and said "John, thought you might want to know you have left your phone on your desk again" He actually drove back to the office before he realised.

Pictures are always welcome. Would it be too hard to neck up an 8 x 57R? I have not compared the case dimensions but maybe a neck expander and if needs be fireforming? I speak as someone who reforms 7x65R brass to 8x60R (for a light calibre double - to go back to the OP for a moment) So whilst...

Yes she is a beauty. A .577 Short Rifle for an officer. 3 groove barrel with original rammer, two band, and bayonet. W&C Scott 1860 Birmingham England. She is for sale if you are interested . Not mine, an elderly friends with a massive collection - all for sale. In fact all three are along...

I had the chance to look at a 9.5 x 57 a couple of years ago. A Mannlicher Schoenauer 1910 The furniture had heavy patina (lol) but the action was as smooth as silk and a pristine bore. Would love to be able to hunt with it And below on the right (Sorry for the rubbish photos)

Spirituality is one's commune with God Religion is crowd control Attrib. K/n

They sure are if they don't lock!

Spotted by me today in one of the finest (ie most expensive) private hospitals in the Country. (A Middle-East Sultanate)

The smaller doubles lend themselves excellently to a nice QD scope. This is an 8mm with a Swaro 4 x 32

Fabulous rifle. Set front trigger too. Well done, you will enjoy hunting with that for sure.

With thin-skinned game like Roe Deer a standard 175 grn Prohunter may give less than ideal terminal performance. In my humble opinion, this is a great fix -based on my experience. Your experience may be different? Didn't want to start a pissing competition :cool:

Hollow-point the 175grn .323 Sierra and you will have a devastating round ;) (Below left)

Just to go back to the 8 x 60. Most likely due to it's larger case capacity, back when it came out in the early part of the last century it would have had have more power than the 8 x 57. However I have no doubt that with plethora of modern powders now available an 8 x 57 can be loaded to give...

Some interesting stuff about the 8 x 57 here (below) along with plenty of others. https://93x62journal.co.za/articles/elementor-80/ The 8 x 60 is to all intents and purposes pretty much identical to the 8 x 57, the additional 3mm was a simply "work-around" following the Treaty of Versailles

Hi. No it is a Merkel DR in 8mm (in my avatar thingy) The 7 x 65r cases were shortened and reformed to 8 mm

A slightly different approach here. This is a "Pig Pouch" The purpose being for when on driven Boar. From "Fine Shooting Accssories" in Scotland (no affiliation to me). Fits on a belt up to 2" wide

This thread has been going nicely for 13 yers. I added my choices at the start Not sure if they have changed but I will say .22LR .222 Rem 8 x 60 Covers it all for me but still use the , wait for it... .243 - a lot ;)

Gotta love a Drilling. Covers fur and feather and fun to use. Many people say it is a master of nothing , I disagree.

Fabulous. Congratulations to you all.

Still loving the .222 I had left some rabbit guts out and this fellow came 1/4ing upwind towards them. Nice to get a daylight fox.

Agreed. How low do you want/need to go?

Yes definitely. I thought it was due to my phone being oldish but reading the above clarifies matters

Yummy (Oman)

Omani Blue Crabs grilled on the braii along with a Tagine of fresh veg

Thank you all for your kind words :)

That's fantastic. Cherish every moment, as I am sure you will, whilst looking forward to the many hunting trips you will take him on, then one day when you are old and grey, it will be Harry taking you. As it should be.

Thank you

After another long stint in the deserts of the Middle East I arrived back home 3 weeks ago late in the evening after 23 hrs travel involving two flights and a lot of hanging around - as is usually the way with international travel. After saying hi to the wife and dogs and in desperate need of...

Mrs 8 x 60 and I recently attended our Son's graduation in England. A BVetMed (1st) He is now in Limpopo helping out at a Veterinary Practice (Jealous ? Me ? - you bet )

The last lot of Defenders (the properones not the current one) had to be recalled. They found the driver's doors weren't leaking properly

If you want to go bush, take a Landrover, if you want to get back again, take a Toyota. :cool:

Darkest Worcestershire :cool:

But he is expecting a stiff sentence

Eyes only for us on here please. No reposts please. This one is on trust. ( Don't let me down) Here she is a few weeks ago. Just look at the size of those pads in relation to her body. She is now 3 months old and pretty feisty, I have some fresh "play-bite" scars to prove it! She is playing and...

Here is a wild one in the same Country

This is not a hunting report Arabian Leopard? How could it be? Some older members of Africahunting may recall my obsession with Ingwe https://www.africahunting.com/threads/ingwe.33516/ Yes indeed, this very day I was bitten by a Leopard An Arabian Leopard And I was happy about it too ...