Rolex- the stupidest, lamest company

Shako: Gotta disagree here, OMEGA is battery operated and while much more accurate keeping time - Rolex is known for “Flashy” - where I worked in Manhattan you could always tell when someone got promoted - a Rolex with Stainless & Gold band soon followed…We use to call it the “New District Manager” watch. I believe they are very well crafted quality watches but too flashy for me (Yes, I have an OMEGA)
There are no new battery operated Omega's these days. All Omega specific mechanical movements. They did make a few entry level quartz models in the 90's though.

I'd agree that Rolex is more flashy, or at least more recognizable for the most part.
 
Something I’ve noticed in this thread as well as elsewhere is a lot of the greatest Rolex stalwarts got their watches 20+ years ago. Would you do the same today given the current market?
If I did not have one, and liked one that I want,Yes. Now, I would rather get a Patek or a Lange.
 
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Something I’ve noticed in this thread as well as elsewhere is a lot of the greatest Rolex stalwarts got their watches 20+ years ago. Would you do the same today given the current market?

Absolutely!


I like nice watches and nice rifles.
 
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There are no new battery operated Omega's these days. All Omega specific mechanical movements. They did make a few entry level quartz models in the 90's though.

I'd agree that Rolex is more flashy, or at least more recognizable for the most part.
Then I stand corrected - mine is battery and purchased NEW in 2007 but haven’t purchased any recently….battery lasts 5-6 years
 
Shako: Gotta disagree here, OMEGA is battery operated and while much more accurate keeping time - Rolex is known for “Flashy” - where I worked in Manhattan you could always tell when someone got promoted - a Rolex with Stainless & Gold band soon followed…We use to call it the “New District Manager” watch. I believe they are very well crafted quality watches but too flashy for me (Yes, I have an OMEGA)

I should clarify I was comparing the new (post 2018) Omegas automatic vs the stainless classic submarine/ explorer. Omega (like the rest of the industry) offers a lot of flashy bright watches, those are the ones I tend to see.
 
I should clarify I was comparing the new (post 2018) Omegas automatic vs the stainless classic submarine/ explorer. Omega (like the rest of the industry) offers a lot of flashy bright watches, those are the ones I tend to see.
Yes I guess most high end watches can have the “Pimp” look but that’s Not my profession
 
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Something I’ve noticed in this thread as well as elsewhere is a lot of the greatest Rolex stalwarts got their watches 20+ years ago. Would you do the same today given the current market?
Yes, most certainly. I purchased all of mine in the last 7 yrs. Expensive yes, and I didn't buy them as investments, but they've outperformed just about all other markets so I consider the money well-spent.
 
I disagree. Go watch a video on their QC and factory. You know what you are getting, a well made tool that simply works. Sound similar to the guns on here we talk about?
I agree and disagree. I have no doubt that they are well made and fine examples of craftsmanship. But at the end of the day if the goal tell what time it is, it doesn’t do anything a 10 Walmart watch can’t do. There will never be a time in my life where I will be handicapped by not having a Rolex.

They are essentially jewelry. You don’t buy a Rolex because it works better. You buy a Rolex because it looks cool.

Many guns fall into the same category of novelty. Take a Rigby Highland Stalker. It’s a wonderful piece of craftsmanship. Truly a work of art. In the practical sense it doesn’t do anything my 500 dollar Savage from Cabelas can’t do. In fact the savage may be more accurate. The Rigby is a novelty. A really cool novelty.

I’m not trying to suggest that there is anything wrong with having a Rolex. If you think they are cool and get into collecting or wearing them I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I do agree it’s not much different than a lot of the other nicer toys we talk about on here.

I’m just saying it doesn’t do it for me. There are plenty of other things I don’t get into. Cars for example. I can appreciate a nice car, but I just can’t bring myself to dump tons of money into something that depreciates. I have multiple guns that cost more than my daily driver.

Look. Send me a Rolex and I’ll bet I could grow to love it.
 
One could argue the same thing about a double rifle post. Most double rifles cost as much if not more than a fine watch.
I like most all of the posts to a degree. I guess it just depends on what interests you.

You can’t shoot an elephant in the face with a Rolex.

That’s pretty much the deciding factor for me.
 
I agree and disagree. I have no doubt that they are well made and fine examples of craftsmanship. But at the end of the day if the goal tell what time it is, it doesn’t do anything a 10 Walmart watch can’t do. There will never be a time in my life where I will be handicapped by not having a Rolex.

They are essentially jewelry. You don’t buy a Rolex because it works better. You buy a Rolex because it looks cool.

Many guns fall into the same category of novelty. Take a Rigby Highland Stalker. It’s a wonderful piece of craftsmanship. Truly a work of art. In the practical sense it doesn’t do anything my 500 dollar Savage from Cabelas can’t do. In fact the savage may be more accurate. The Rigby is a novelty. A really cool novelty.

I’m not trying to suggest that there is anything wrong with having a Rolex. If you think they are cool and get into collecting or wearing them I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. I do agree it’s not much different than a lot of the other nicer toys we talk about on here.

I’m just saying it doesn’t do it for me. There are plenty of other things I don’t get into. Cars for example. I can appreciate a nice car, but I just can’t bring myself to dump tons of money into something that depreciates. I have multiple guns that cost more than my daily driver.

Look. Send me a Rolex and I’ll bet I could grow to love it.
I hear you brother. Really not trying to argue, I’ve just been in the watch game for a while. Rolex is the model 70 of the Watch world. It is not a Rigby, or anywhere close. There are multiple small shops that produce high end Watches That fall in that category. If you go to a Watch forum, they will use a Rolex submariner in the exact same way that people here use a control round feed model 70.

Also Rolex don’t depreciate. Neither do rare high end cars.
 
I hear you brother. Really not trying to argue, I’ve just been in the watch game for a while. Rolex is the model 70 of the Watch world. It is not a Rigby, or anywhere close. There are multiple small shops that produce high end Watches That fall in that category. If you go to a Watch forum, they will use a Rolex submariner in the exact same way that people here use a control round feed model 70.
If I ever change my mind and get into fancy watches I’ll hit you up for some advice.

Somebody was telling me about a local watchmaker who was making some nice stuff. I never realized it was something individuals or smalls shops did.
 
If I ever change my mind and get into fancy watches I’ll hit you up for some advice.

Somebody was telling me about a local watchmaker who was making some nice stuff. I never realized it was something individuals or smalls shops did.
That is cool stuff. I love what thise watchmaker guys can do.

Rolex is a big modernized company that is a lot of branding and name. They don’t hand make watches.

Yet, like model 70 they make a good product that is reliable, holds its value, and has great quality control. If someone off the street says they want a “nice” watch to wear 30 years then give their kids on a 8-10k budget, the submariner is the top of that list imo.
 
Take the gun, not the Rolex!

An old Italian Mafia Don is dying and he calls his grandson to his bed. "You lissin-a me. I wanna for you to taka my chrome plated .38 Smit-a-Wesson so you will always remember me."

"But Grandpa, I really don't like guns. Howz about you leava me your Rolex watch instead."

"Shuddup an lissin. Somma day you gonna runna da business, you gonna have a beautifula wife, lots a money, a biga haus and maybe a couple a bambinos. Somma day you gonna coma home and maybe finda your wife inna bed wit' anodda man. Whadda you gonna do then... pointa to you watch and a say, "time's up"?
 
I hear you brother. Really not trying to argue, I’ve just been in the watch game for a while. Rolex is the model 70 of the Watch world. It is not a Rigby, or anywhere close. There are multiple small shops that produce high end Watches That fall in that category. If you go to a Watch forum, they will use a Rolex submariner in the exact same way that people here use a control round feed model 70.

Also Rolex don’t depreciate. Neither do rare high end cars.
I kinda understand what you are saying… I guess I’d Say that Omegas are Winchester M-70 Super Grades and Rolex is their Custom Shop gun where as the British Best are more equal to the smaller Boutique watches like Patek Phillipe, Vacheron Constantine, Franck Muller, etc
 
I kinda understand what you are saying… I guess I’d Say that Omegas are Winchester M-70 Super Grades and Rolex is their Custom Shop gun where as the British Best are more equal to the smaller Boutique watches like Patek Phillipe, Vacheron Constantine, Franck Muller, etc
Bingo. I like omega by the way, but they are more like the 375 ruger I like so much. Newer. Better. And people just don’t care and I’ll lose 20% when I sell them!
 
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You can do both!
 
Yes I guess most high end watches can have the “Pimp” look but that’s Not my profession
Yeah, I'm not into heavy gold necklaces or "body art". If someone drugged my beer and tattooed me, I'd probably jump in front of a bus when I came to.

Every year I tell my brother, "This season I WILL remember to remove my watch before I gut the deer." And every year without fail I forget. This year I finally remembered ... one out of three bucks anyway. I imagine you guys with Rolex watches would swoon if you forgot and sent them swimming in blood. :D Guess I'm still a working class guy at heart. Because my dad was. And his dad before him.
 
I started to post this earlier, but took it down. Seeing some of these comments now think it can add a data point on the practical use component of at least some Rolex models.

In 1976, I was a young (really young!) deckhand on a marlin fishing boat, which won a tournament with large prize money. The boat owners gave us a watch as a thank you for helping. We could choose either a Rolex Submariner or the Omega like the astronauts wore.

I chose the Rolex Submariner because the NRA magazine had run ads of men wearing them in Viet Nam, going on safari, and climbing mountains in them. They were tough, rugged watches for men doing tough rugged things. Back then, it was about $400.

This is the only watch I own and have worn it 24/7/365 for the last 48 years. Now, I take it off when showering just to keep the soap film from building up or working on equipment where it or my wedding ring might catch. Otherwise, it is on all the time.

I have worn it outdoors shooting including 10’s of 1,000’s of rounds of pistol and about as many with a rifle and ten x that with a shotgun, hunting, fishing including offshore, skiing both water and snow, climbing a few mountains back in my younger years, and traveling four continents. I wore it in Tanzania and never worried about it either. It has been deep in bloody goo cleaning deer and pigs. Wash it off and give it a splash of rubbing alcohol and it is ready to go.

It does look nice, but I have worn for 48 years now because it works when I need it to work. It has been in for a refurb with new crystal three times and replaced the band twice.


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Bingo. I like omega by the way, but they are more like the 375 ruger I like so much. Newer. Better. And people just don’t care and I’ll lose 20% when I sell them!
To be honest that is true to a certain extent but the Omegas do hit a floor and the start appreciating again! My Planet Ocean “full kit” I bought for $2300 some years back. That watch was $5500 new so that owner lost over 50% on my watch!!!
But now I see that my watch “full kit” is running $6,000 to $7,000! So it is on the plus side and will keep appreciating!
There are some Speedmasters and Seamasters bought in the 70’s for $500 that are worth well north of $10,000…
So Omega was once upon a time where Rolex is now as “THE” watch to be seen in but now doesn’t have the “panache” that Rolex does and therefore does not command the secondary market that Rolex does…
Being and owner of both I will absolutely, positively tell you that while the Rolex’s command more attention and value, the Omega Planet Ocean is a much more accurate, tougher and to me better looking watch than the Submariner and hands down the Speedmaster is a better more accurate watch than the Daytona!!!

All that said I’m wearing my Franck Muller Casablanca today
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To be honest that is true to a certain extent but the Omegas do hit a floor and the start appreciating again! My Planet Ocean “full kit” I bought for $2300 some years back. That watch was $5500 new so that owner lost over 50% on my watch!!!
But now I see that my watch “full kit” is running $6,000 to $7,000! So it is on the plus side and will keep appreciating!
There are some Speedmasters and Seamasters bought in the 70’s for $500 that are worth well north of $10,000…
So Omega was once upon a time where Rolex is now as “THE” watch to be seen in but now doesn’t have the “panache” that Rolex does and therefore does not command the secondary market that Rolex does…
Being and owner of both I will absolutely, positively tell you that while the Rolex’s command more attention and value, the Omega Planet Ocean is a much more accurate, tougher and to me better looking watch than the Submariner and hands down the Speedmaster is a better more accurate watch than the Daytona!!!

All that said I’m wearing my Franck Muller Casablanca today View attachment 590967
Well Timex is more accurate than any mechanical watch but i don’t think that’s important - any watch can tell the time. I also like a very light watch and thin band that I can button my shirt sleeve over, Timex fits the bill for a hunting watch - has an alarm feature that I can set for “reminders”. But I’m Not wearing it to a formal event, Wedding, nice dinner, church etc.. I prefer Omega for many reasons but wouldn’t turn down a Rolex as a gift either
 

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