This thread is a laugh... so much so, that I just picked up a box of 480 DGX, just to see what my .450 Marlin Bolt Action Ruger can realistically do with that bullet... this rifle was built on a Long Action, so I can seat the bullets out as far as possible with this bullet. I have no intention of using it on DG, this rifle is solely a black bear rifle and more for guiding than hunting, although I have shot a couple bears with it. I may try a 480 DGX on a bear this spring or possibly hand it off to a client to use... although it is far too tough a bullet to be ideal. I will post the chrono results once I get to the range.