IvW
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He said, you said, I said, I imply,Show me..... blah blah blah.....Last question first. I don't care, I like and appreciate both action types. For DG I lean towards CRF, for military , Push Feed, for general hunting any, I like most of them.
In this post you are talking about the design and I agree by design the CRF should not double feed but as I said they do. Also nowhere have I said that CRF stuff up because of design. In the real world they do fuck up period. To be clear, I say again, not every CRF fucks up, I would say very few fuck up, but they do, any firearm type does and not just because the person is incompetent, but also because the firearm is faulty.
"You on the other hand appear to be trashing CRF actions due to incompetent/incorrect use by somebody who is short stroking a CRF action or used a damaged CRF action."
Like I keep say read what I write. I am not trashing your beloved CRF. I am merely pointing out that they do stuff up and as so much bull dust is written about how infallible they are, when it simply is not true. Note! that the action may not be damaged as you say by could be faulty due to manufacture, worn and a part need replacing. Now you canned some PF for the very same reason if memory serves.
"Short stroking and any resultant issue are as a result of incorrect use by the operator and has nothing to do with the action type."
Show me where I have said short stroking is because of action design. Please if you are going to have a shot at me read what I write. Because when you write this type of garbage and imply I said it, you really do yourself a disservice.
I am not trying to take any shots at you, merely giving my opinion. If I was trying to imply that you mentioned something you did not I apologize as that is/was not the intention. You do rather seem to be getting a bit over excited with regards to the issue.
I have never seen or know of any PH I have worked with in camp that uses a rifle with a push feed action and never ever a rem M700 for DG back-up work.
Perhaps the gap or expectation of a rifle used for this application is totally different, but in my opinion it would also be unwise for a client to choose a PF instead of a proven CRF when hunting DG.
I prefer CRF actioned rifles as in my experience they are much more reliable(I use Brno ZKK 601, ZKK 602 and Brno Mod 21). Never had any issues with any of them.
222 Rem-Sako full length extractor
243 Win-ZKK 601
7x57mm-Brno Mod 21
375 H&H-ZKK 602 custom
375 H&H-ZKK 602 original
500 Jeff-ZKK 602 custom
Seen many issues with push feeds, my own as well as ones brought over by clients.
Seeing as I am writing garbage let me finish with this.
Any rifle can malfunction. Many malfunctions are because of operator error rather than design issues. Some rifle types have serious design issues.
CRF in good condition fail less often than PRF in same condition.