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The reason the US, and Europe have to support Ukraine is utterly simple and I would have thought obvious - if Russia conquered Ukraine it would likely continue beyond that, and the next conquest would by article 5 necessitate NATO acting, ie a full blown war. Ukraine is the logical place to stop this misadventure before it gets out of hand.
 
I did not mention the border crisis as a comparison to the Ukraine war. It's not a matter of looking at it as a false equivalency. It's a matter of looking at what is a greater priority to American interests today as we speak.. You make the argument that we will pay price down the road and possibly generationally if we do not aid Ukraine against Russia now. Okay fair enough.. Maybe so, but I am making the argument that our domestic crises' have become so numerous and so serious that we will not have a republic left to worry about protecting from Russian aggression in Europe.. A year ago, my arguments might be dismissed as hyperbole... Today it is a stark reality for many including my own family.. It's happening right now and it's certainly no joke or just another can to be kicked down the road to be dealt with at a more convenient time.

The border aside, do you honestly think that folks who will be foreclosing on their homes and losing their pensions are looking down the road 10 years at what may or may not happen if Russia succeeds in Ukraine? These are not false equivalencies if you are the one living with the reality of tangible, life changing, domestic disasters that are most certainly happening as we speak.

My advanced apology for presuming anything about you, but perhaps you are well-off enough to endure the economic pain, and isolated enough to be shielded from the crime, violence, and moral decay in our society. I am not, so maybe that's a big reason we seem to disagree on this country's priorities at the moment.



Probably less than those in the USA who have already died due to fentanyl OD's or violent crime as the border remains wide open.. Again, not a false equivalency, just a matter of priorities.. I feel terrible for the innocents dying in Ukraine. I feel worse for the innocent US citizens dying here..



I can only speak for myself, but that is absolutely not the case with me. My complete and utter contempt for Biden and the elected democrats in Washington has no bearing in my concerns over US involvement in Ukraine. I would be just as critical of any Administration who would risk our national security without a detailed explanation complete with strategies, goals, and contingencies clearly justifying why we need to risk war with Russia and possibly China to support Ukraine.
No you didn't. Others do regularly. I apologize for including you in that generalization by responding to your post directly.

I get it. Everything you say about the willful neglect within our nation, whether economics, crime, priorities etc. etc. is absolutely correct. However, ignoring the burgeoning threat posed by a resurgent Russia does absolutely nothing to solve those other issues. Indeed, it can only add to them in the coming decades. We have the means to deal with all of these problems. Not dealing with one set does not make it wrong to deal with another.

My advanced apology for presuming anything about you, but perhaps you are well-off enough to endure the economic pain, and isolated enough to be shielded from the crime, violence, and moral decay in our society. I am not, so maybe that's a big reason we seem to disagree on this country's priorities at the moment.

Do you really mean this paragraph?

I am retired. That means my income is fixed. Raging inflation and a shrinking investments affect people like me more than anyone. Perhaps because I have seen this before we have been very cautious with "investments." For instance, we own this place free and clear. Up until about a month ago, many would say that was a waste of deployable assets. It looks pretty smart right now. And this can and likely will get worse - possibly a whole lot worse. I bought my first house as a struggling captain in 1981. With excellent credit, my 30-year fixed mortgage was 18.1%. And yes, we currently live in a rural environment. But we are also part of the larger Austin metroplex. So, please no lectures on crime. Besides, I absolutely agree with you.

My only point is that none of this has anything to do with the threat posed by a resurgent Russia. The situation is frustrating, it is even infuriating, but to not address one because our government won't address others is also the height of neglect.
 
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I very respectfully disagree..

Can you point out any one example by which the current Administration has demonstrated their ability to do anything successfully to any degree? I'm being completely serious.. Please name one successful policy or piece of legislation produced by the current Administration that has helped the American people become more safe, healthy, successful, free or prosperous.
Let me be clear….THIS administration could be replaced with a troop of Gibbons and we would be better off. However, it seems wrong to not help Ukraine because our current leaders can’t find their asses with both hands. Diminishing Russia is a good thing. Let’s finish that job, then hire some new leaders and get other good stuff done.
 
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@Red Leg made a very key point on how to weather this political turmoil and economic meltdown that may have gotten lost in the rest of the discussion. Invest as well as you can, carry no debt into retirement, live a lifestyle that allows you to significantly reduce monthly expenses if necessary.
 
scariest thing I've read today:


in our ever more centralized, inter-connected, digital world, the possibility of using unrelated disagreement with government policy to restrict accesses to your finances for example would turn the entire population into mere slaves.
That is the plan, my friend.
 
I respect that this is personal for you and your defensiveness is somewhat understandable given your experience and background. Most of us do not have the luxury of your experience, and we do have to rely on sifting through the internet and the various media outlets for this information.

That being said, this Administration is doing a very poor job of messaging the actual use and distribution of the money being allocated to Ukraine. Maybe if someone in the Administration or the DOD would explain how weapons are being distributed against an existing defense budget as you pointed out, the ideology would be better received by the American public. But they are not... In fact quite the opposite is being disseminated from all media outlets left, right, and center..



Really? I think it's completely fair to ask questions of this or any other Administration in power of why we are spending billions on a country with which we have no official alliance or obligation to defend. It has nothing to do with the lack of Americans wanting to support the people of Ukraine.. It has to do with priorities and the fact that we are already underwater with an ever-growing number of crises' in our own country and half the population is genuinely struggling as a direct result of terrible policies from a government that has squandered American confidence long ago with it's lies and terrible policies across the board.

The Ukraine war and how it is being justified by this Administration may indeed be a victim of the times and the current political situation here in the USA. But, that doesn't dismiss the fact that there are many questions that deserve answers to justify American support.



Once again, I understand and agree with this generalization. However, it's not naiveté or a conspiracy theory for us to ask for specific examples of how this is more important right now than the dozens of other domestic shit storms we are already dealing with here at home. In regard to our Ukraine involvement, I have yet to hear any specific reasons, long-term strategies, or goals laid out by anyone in this Administration, or the pundits for that matter.

When hard working people see the US southern border overrun with impunity, fuel & food prices soaring, unaffordable rent and house prices, the stock market in a mass sell-off in reaction to rising interest rates, etc., it's very difficult to get them onboard with sending billions overseas to a war not of our making especially with no specific plan, and the Afghan debacle still smoldering.. Even if it's as you say and cash isn't being sent over in suitcases like Obama did with Iran, it's a hard sell to most Americans given what we have on our plates already..

Meanwhile Brandon continues to play his fiddle and only takes a break to spend more printed money and proudly proclaims that another 40 billion of it is going to Ukraine and you don't understand why taxpayers are asking questions as to how or why the money is being spent? I'm kinda surprised you don't get that?
Ukraine is the money laundry for the (mis)administration and cohorts so they have to continue sending more to insure the kickbacks and payoffs keep coming back to DC.
 
Anyone stateside see Tucker Carlson tonight, 6/17? Somewhat shocking revelations from Biden's daughters missing but now found diary.
It will be ignored but shouldn't be.
Its disgusting on any level.
 
Anyone stateside see Tucker Carlson tonight, 6/17? Somewhat shocking revelations from Biden's daughters missing but now found diary.
It will be ignored but shouldn't be.
Its disgusting on any level.

I've heard bits and pieces over the last couple months but wasn't sure of any authenticity. Yes, disgusting if true.
 
I recall several reports of Biden's perversion tendencies- the first I recall was as Vice President he required the female secret service officers to remain poolside while he swam sans clothing.
 
I've heard bits and pieces over the last couple months but wasn't sure of any authenticity. Yes, disgusting if true.
Beginning to look factual. TC just flat out said it and the reporter guest seemed pretty secure with his story.
Makes one wonder why else would he send the FBI for what is not a federal case to harass a journalist on some pretext. The FBI is not Joeys personal guard.
 
I recall several reports of Biden's perversion tendencies- the first I recall was as Vice President he required the female secret service officers to remain poolside while he swam sans clothing.
If the allegations are true and I do believe them, it is certainly reason to remove the turd from office. They will just ignore and hope it goes away and the lamestream wont touch it until its unavoidable.
 
If Joe got the hook, Kameltoe would be deemed irrelevant and pushed aside. That may be even worse, I dont know. There is no one in this admin worthy of the job.
As much as I would like to see Uncle Joe gone, the thought of his replacement is even worse
 
If Joe got the hook, Kameltoe would be deemed irrelevant and pushed aside. That may be even worse, I dont know. There is no one in this admin worthy of the job.

After her is Pelosi, then Schumer. An all star lineup if your looking for circus clowns or bear bait!
 
After her is Pelosi, then Schumer. An all star lineup if your looking for circus clowns or bear bait!
Not after November if we keep our focus on the prize.
 
You know what really pisses me off? I’ve been in meetings in the President pro tempore and Speaker’s offices when they were occupied by serious and capable patriots. Those offices are full of OUR history, pieces that can’t be seen in any museum. To think of these self important asses acting like they belong in those offices is infuriating. Mid terms can’t come soon enough!
 
Not after November if we keep our focus on the prize.
I assure you, no one here is more focused on the midterms and a large R turnout than me. Unfortunately, I keep seeing Beto signs in areas where there should be Abbott signs. Not a good sign.
 
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I assure you no one here is more focused on the midterms and a large R turnout than me. Unfortunately, I keep seeing Beto signs in areas where there should be Abbott signs. Not a good sign.
Unless you are in deepest Austin, they are rare to non-existent around here.
 

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