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[sgt_zim]

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This is really laughable on so many levels.

There is direct evidence of "collusion" between both HRC and Obama with the Russians.
1. ever heard of Uranium One?
2. maybe you missed Obama's "hot mic" moment in Japan in the run-up to the 2012 election where he told the Russian ambassador Medvedev that he'd have a lot more flexibility after the election [of 2012]. It was WRT missile defense

I am curious why, if true, it is such a big deal for an American to be "colluding" with a Russian. Many Americans, starting with with that disgusting Armand Hammer in 1917, have been in bed with the communists for more than a century now. We could talk about the Pulitzer-prize-winning Walter Duranty of the NYT and his glowing piece on the USSR, written during the height of Holodomor. We could then progress to the House and Senate hearings on un-American activities in the late 1940s, where every single person outed by Senator Joe McCarthy was in fact a communist. The Venona Papers (released by the KGB after the USSR fell in the early 1990s) vindicated McCarthy, without exception. Indeed, they showed that his only error was that he missed a bunch of them.

So I put it to you - if it is true that Trump is in bed with Putin, why is it now, after 100 years of the left doing it, such a big deal to the left?

 

[LivingTheDream]

Yeah I'm glad the Democrats specifically Hillary and Obama never made any deals with russia....

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesc...llary-clinton-in-the-news-again/#2ef43028526d

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...er_when_obama_promised_putin_flexibility.html

And it's not like the HRC campaign paid a law firm who made up the entire Steele Dossier which was where all this Russian stuff started.

Let's not let what actually happen get in the way of a good story. I will admit the Russia one is a good one for poor liberal snowflakes to hang on to.

 

[sgt_zim]

The "border wall" will not work as currently envisioned. It's a solid wall from CA to El Paso, Texas. Once its reaches Texas, the Texas portion is only around metropolitan areas, the rest of the Texas border is left open. Remember that water will alway take the path of least resistance. You will have hundreds of miles of Texas border without a wall. There is your new path of least resistance. It will increase unlawful and illegal border crossing into Texas.

Of course if you had a solid Texas border, you will have every wildlife NGO suing to stop the wall as it would stop that natural migration of wildlife between Texas and Mexico.

As far as I know, the vast bulk of animals which migrate across The Big River (el Rio Grande) fly across it. Deer and black bear may at times cross it, but this is hardly a migration.

 

[Hogpatrol]

Watch what you say about Virginia! Lol!

I just wish Democrats could use the same terminology for all issues, the gun wasn't purchased illegally, it was just undocumented and was on it's way to a sanctuary home.

Breaking and entering, no its unauthorized residential co-habitation.

Grand Theft Auto, no its undeed ride sharing.

We can fix all of those illegal things and make then better and less offensive.

They've done it with "Global Warming" after that term was derided. Now it's "Climate Change".

 

[Nature Boy]

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Driving down oil prices sure helped him,lol. You are uneducated.

 

[IdaRam]

As far as I know, the vast bulk of animals which migrate across The Big River (el Rio Grande) fly across it. Deer and black bear may at times cross it, but this is hardly a migration.

I think this is absolutely true. The fly in the ointment will be the jaguar or ocelot. Just watch, before long we will have to have a multi million dollar 10 year study to determine the potential effect of a border “wall” on the jaguar. Think ESA. Can’t possibly do anything to interfere with the migration of a cat that may or may not exist in the area, of which there may be a grand total of 2.

 

[ack]

As far as I know, the vast bulk of animals which migrate across The Big River (el Rio Grande) fly across it. Deer and black bear may at times cross it, but this is hardly a migration.

I think some cross on tubes also.

 

[Nature Boy]

Bottom line is we need a secure border. We need to control who comes in. Lots and lots of reasons why.

 

[Nature Boy]

There are twice as many anchor babies in Cali than there are people in Wyoming. Turning us into a socialist nightmare and 3rd world country fast. 63% of Cali kids are functionally illiterate, let that sink in. This is "good" for our country according to a certain party.

 

[Hogpatrol]

I see where the governor of California wants to tax drinking water. The rest of the country is shaking its head. Hopefully when the California debt bubble explodes, there will be an epiphany for the liberals. I just hope it happens there before it does in the entire U.S.

 

[Nature Boy]

I see where the governor of California wants to tax drinking water. The rest of the country is shaking its head. Hopefully when the California debt bubble explodes, there will be an epiphany for the liberals. I just hope it happens there before it does in the entire U.S.

I don't think people really know what's happening in Cali. It's the state BY FAR with the most poverty, they take BY FAR the most federal assistance, have massive debt, have a state tax of 13.3%, have the highest sales tax and are basically wrecked. They also have the most people leaving the state and they are going to ruin the places they move to voting blue. You can not fix stupid.

 

[jeanes]

The only epiphany I've ever observed from the left when their policies fail is, "Oh gosh, we didn't try hard enough. Let's double down."

 

[Red Leg]

Before I retired, we closed our corporate headquarters in California and moved it to Northern VA. That is a company that is doing 30+ billion in sales annually! We were hardly alone. As part of the process, I had to close one of my campuses in Los Angeles which affected about 450 of my people - the vast majority engineers. With corporate blessing, we offered them a total expense-free transfer to Huntsville, Alabama where we were moving the work. Maybe thirty families took me up on the offer, the remainder preferring to stay in their 1200 square foot "bungalows" and sitting on the 405 for an hour and a half each way to wherever they would find their new jobs. Of the few who decided to take me up on the offer, all tracked me down over the next year or so to say thanks. They were now in 4000 sq ft homes - the vast majority fully paid for with equity from their California sales. They were dumbfounded by the quality of the schools, the culture (just knew everyone in Alabama was a redneck hick), and the direction their lives had changed. And yet, I am sure everyone of them is continuing to vote Democrat as Huntsville takes on an ever bluer hue.

 

[tarbe]

Before I retired, we closed our corporate headquarters in California and moved it to Northern VA. That is a company that is doing 30+ billion in sales annually! We were hardly alone. As part of the process, I had to close one of my campuses in Los Angeles which affected about 450 of my people - the vast majority engineers. With corporate blessing, we offered them a total expense-free transfer to Huntsville, Alabama where we were moving the work. Maybe thirty families took me up on the offer, the remainder preferring to stay in their 1200 square foot "bungalows" and sitting on the 405 for an hour and a half each way to wherever they would find their new jobs. Of the few who decided to take me up on the offer, all tracked me down over the next year or so to say thanks. They were now in 4000 sq ft homes - the vast majority fully paid for with equity from their California sales. They were dumbfounded by the quality of the schools, the culture (just knew everyone in Alabama was a redneck hick), and the direction their lives had changed. And yet, I am sure everyone of them is continuing to vote Democrat as Huntsville takes on an ever bluer hue.

Really makes you wonder how such educated people can manage to be so ignorant of cause & effect.

 

[Hogpatrol]

 

[Nature Boy]

Really makes you wonder how such educated people can manage to be so ignorant of cause & effect.

A lot of it is group think imo. I deal with people from all over and when it's NY, ILL, Cali (these are business people by the way, they make money) they trend blue. Living in those places they slowly get indoctrinated and actually start to believe the bullshit. There is also the "I don't want to be ostracized factor" as well. They are still stupid for falling into the sludge pile though.

 

[Nature Boy]

Before I retired, we closed our corporate headquarters in California and moved it to Northern VA. That is a company that is doing 30+ billion in sales annually! We were hardly alone. As part of the process, I had to close one of my campuses in Los Angeles which affected about 450 of my people - the vast majority engineers. With corporate blessing, we offered them a total expense-free transfer to Huntsville, Alabama where we were moving the work. Maybe thirty families took me up on the offer, the remainder preferring to stay in their 1200 square foot "bungalows" and sitting on the 405 for an hour and a half each way to wherever they would find their new jobs. Of the few who decided to take me up on the offer, all tracked me down over the next year or so to say thanks. They were now in 4000 sq ft homes - the vast majority fully paid for with equity from their California sales. They were dumbfounded by the quality of the schools, the culture (just knew everyone in Alabama was a redneck hick), and the direction their lives had changed. And yet, I am sure everyone of them is continuing to vote Democrat as Huntsville takes on an ever bluer hue.

Along with the middle class businesses are fleeing too. It's by far the most difficult state to operate in. Huge regulation list, etc. That is going to make it worse faster.

 

[Hogpatrol]

I posted this elsewhere but along the CA lines, Delaware has seen an influx of people from high tax NE states like NY, NJ, MD and PA. Same deal as the CA emigres, They bringg their social welfare politics with them, both houses of the legislature are Democrat and all they are intent on doing is pissing away money at problems that will never be fixed. You can't fix stupid.

 

[sgt_zim]

Really makes you wonder how such educated people can manage to be so ignorant of cause & effect.

It is a hallmark of the leftist mind to reverse causality. I haven't any idea at all how they do it, but they do it.

 

[lwaters]

It's kind of like people moving into the country because they don't like town. Then they try to make it like town. They want fire trucks, leash laws, trash service and the sheriff hanging around more.