Politics

[glen matunas]

Globalist doesn’t seem that difficult

 

[Saul]

As I would love to continue to discuss politics with everyone the chairman of the board has given a very reasonable warning about not being disrespectful…was not my intention…poor American to euro humor and thin skin I guess. Back to retirement, good luck to you all in you future endeavors!

I, for one, am quite enjoying this conversation.

 

[Saul]

One of the many great aspects of hunting, especially African hunting, is that it is a passion shared by people from all over the world and from all walks of life. One may even go so far as to say that it is a global pursuit.

 

[WAB]

I love your quote “ providing for themselves as much of there defense as they can”

Your are proving my point, without USA military Europe doesn’t exist. It would rapidly be divided between Russian and China.

Europe has become like a welfare recipient of the very generous USA.

And we as USA citizens reap absolutely nothing in return except pompous attitude and the dreaded Oliver saying “sir, can I please have some more”

Let Europe live or die on its own merits, money, and military. No more us aid, no more us military youth getting killed for countries who refuse to take care of themselves. Gone this idea a try for maybe 4 years…..Europe citizens would be building boats to flee across the pond just saying. Not to many USA citizens fleeing to Europe geesh

I hope you don’t really believe this. If Europe dies economically we are in the worst economic downturn in our history. This rhetoric sounds great but doesn’t actually work.

 

[Tanks]

I hope you don’t really believe this. If Europe dies economically we are in the worst economic downturn in our history. This rhetoric sounds great but doesn’t actually work.

Unfortunately, a lot of the MAGA base as well as the politicians (House Chaos Caucus) believe this including, the nepo baby Gaetz.

 

[steve white]

Sounds like we could all use a diversion of thought--here's one for you. Around 1936 the right wingers in Spain felt they had been cheated out of an election. Already unhappy and feeling disenfranchised they reacted violently to an incident in which three of their political leaders were supposedly killed by police. Unbeknownst to them the police were not involved--leftists posing as police were intentionally inciting them. They took the bait and a civil war ensued. Neighborhoods armed themselves, etc. The rest is in the history books.
Fast forward to 2020. An election was stolen, Jan 6 sentiments were equal if not harsher than those motivating the Antifa led riots. WHAT IF it is all as manipulated as the 1936 Spanish civil war. Could we believe that the left is being manipulated by socialists while the right is being inflamed by manipulated events? What might have transpired if Trump had been assassinated? Our own civil war, perhaps? Who would benefit from that the most? Suppose Russia/China/North Korea/Iran wanted to attack us--would there ever be a better time than during a US civil war? Not only weakened, but if attacked from without, confused about where the attack came from and reacting as if it were from fellow citizens?

 

[DillonG]

Wild quesrion for this thread. Shouldn’t we all just be curious about what stocks all of the elected officials are trading, and when? I would prefer to 100-300x my net worth in approximately 20 years. That’s just my goal.

 

[DillonG]

Sounds like we could all use a diversion of thought--here's one for you. Around 1936 the right wingers in Spain felt they had been cheated out of an election. Already unhappy and feeling disenfranchised they reacted violently to an incident in which three of their political leaders were supposedly killed by police. Unbeknownst to them the police were not involved--leftists posing as police were intentionally inciting them. They took the bait and a civil war ensued. Neighborhoods armed themselves, etc. The rest is in the history books.
Fast forward to 2020. An election was stolen, Jan 6 sentiments were equal if not harsher than those motivating the Antifa led riots. WHAT IF it is all as manipulated as the 1936 Spanish civil war. Could we believe that the left is being manipulated by socialists while the right is being inflamed by manipulated events? What might have transpired if Trump had been assassinated? Our own civil war, perhaps? Who would benefit from that the most? Suppose Russia/China/North Korea/Iran wanted to attack us--would there ever be a better time than during a US civil war? Not only weakened, but if attacked from without, confused about where the attack came from and reacting as if it were from fellow citizens?

Highly doubt North Korea or Iran has the capability to militarily take over the U.S. even after a civil war started. The U.S. populous still has more people and guns. Not to mention our technological, naval, and aerospace superiority, I will grant you China, maybe.

 

[DillonG]

Unfortunately, a lot of the MAGA base as well as the politicians (House Chaos Caucus) believe this including, the nepo baby Gaetz.

I believe the sentiment of nationalism is swinging too far. It does have a good argument about focusing more on tax paying citizens, rather than alliances from
WW2. In the past 3 decades (my time on the Earth) we have paid for the majority of allies. Financially that is a mistake. The U.S. can’t simply bow out of global affairs. There must be a renegotiation of our agreements. Also, entitlements need to be systematically restricted, then abolished domestically.

At my age, I would eagerly sacrifice all of the money taken from me for social security and Medicare in order to invest as I see fit. These welfare programs are simply another tax. Everyone would have benefited more taking that same amount of money and investing in the S&P over the last 20 years.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Trump’s comment on Kamala’s race was really stupid. Going down that path will cost him votes. Focus should be on her track record, which is less than impressive and out of touch with reality.