Good Gun Deals This Week

[Certus]

They’ve had that for quite a while. It would be interesting to see what the experts say about it. It is the 3 1/4” version so that’s probably the main reason it’s been sitting there. Looks kinda rough too

If I ever get a double rifle I want it to be a .450/400 3 1/4” nitro express. Preferably a hammer gun but it doesn’t have to be.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

If I ever get a double rifle I want it to be a .450/400 3 1/4” nitro express. Preferably a hammer gun but it doesn’t have to be.

Those hammer guns are neat

 

[CoElkHunter]

A guerini or beretta is a modern "through bolted" gun with a hollow void in the stock. Their stocks can be purchased for $600-$1200 and are 98% inletted. 4 hours of shop time to use lantern soot to do final inletting is all that is required. Same for a CZ rifle, I've actually done final fitting for one in the bush with primitive tools by lantern light over the course of a few hours. These are mass produced stocks and mass produced guns.

If it is a hand built gun, for example a vintage 98 mauser sporting rifle, or a garden variety $2000 vintage british 12 bore boxlock shotgun, that was all hand fitting. They are slight in design, using the best possible materials, reliant on good wood integrity for their useful life. If one of those breaks at the wrist or head, a repair is unlikely to be salvagable. Particularly if the stock splinters and you have a hand full of small fragments. Sure it can be glued/pinned/epoxied, then checkering recut to conceal the sh&t-show, then refinished, and pawned off on 95% of buyers, but it won't likely hold.

Why do gun sellers try to convince people that such repairs as above are "Good as new, heck better than ever!" you might ask? Because its a $2000 ruined gun that needs a $5000 new stock. Thus, the gun is worth negative $3000 plus negative $500-$800 for having been restocked. ($2000 original value minus $5000 new stock minus $800 depreciation for being restocked = negative -$3800 loss to the owner)

There is one particular seller on GI and GB located in Kansas that has 100+ guns for sale at a given time. Nearly 100% of the advertised guns have such latent defects and he earns his livelihood acquiring zero-value guns, tarting them up with unstable repairs, and selling them to the masses for 10% under the value they should be if never damaged.

Wow! Sounds scary for the average buyer looking for a decent custom rifle at a fair price but yet doesn't know about JUST the things you've described in this post and potentially many other issues with buying an EXPENSIVE used rifle. I could see where someone without your expertise and knowledge could really get burned with some of these guns? Guess I'll stick with factory firearms with maybe some customized mods to them because I don't know what I don't know when it comes to perusing through used guns.

 

[VertigoBE]

Wow! Sounds scary for the average buyer looking for a decent custom rifle at a fair price but yet doesn't know about JUST the things you've described in this post and potentially many other issues with buying an EXPENSIVE used rifle. I could see where someone without your expertise and knowledge could really get burned with some of these guns? Guess I'll stick with factory firearms with maybe some customized mods to them because I don't know what I don't know when it comes to perusing through used guns.

Exactly my thoughts. I have been saved many times from getting burned buying a turd, by asking for and receiving expert advice from AH members.

 

[rookhawk]

Wow! Sounds scary for the average buyer looking for a decent custom rifle at a fair price but yet doesn't know about JUST the things you've described in this post and potentially many other issues with buying an EXPENSIVE used rifle. I could see where someone without your expertise and knowledge could really get burned with some of these guns? Guess I'll stick with factory firearms with maybe some customized mods to them because I don't know what I don't know when it comes to perusing through used guns.

Your theory is to avoid custom rifles to not get burned, but your conclusion is to only buy firearms where you’ll 100% get burned?

Production firearms generally go to zero value over time. Most are pretty junkie from the start. There have been many custom guns sold on this forum for $1000 that would have $6000 replacement costs. There have been $4000 used guns on this forum that have $60,000 replacement costs if ordered bespoke new.

A new production gun is 30% marketing costs and 20% product liability, 30% distribution and retail margin. The actual gun’s raw materials and labor (plus profit) are the remaining 20%. Thus, the quality and value of a new production gun running $1500 is about $300. Compare that to a $300 custom Mauser sporter, they aren’t even in the same league.

 

[mdwest]

Production firearms generally go to zero value over time.

I find the key to production guns is to simply never buy new… let someone else take the depreciation…

As long as the firearm has been well cared for… a 15 year old Winchester 70 will perform just like a brand new one…

Find someone that has something that they just want to be rid of and are willing to let go for a reasonable price… and buy it from an individual… not from a retailer..

I got my win 70 stainless classic 375 H&H for $650… a guy bought it expecting to move to Alaska… shot 10 rounds through it.. never scoped it.. and never moved to AK… it sat in his safe for a decade..

He was happy to move it for a little more than 50% of what I could easily sell the rifle for now..

You’ll never make big money on production guns… but you don’t have to set yourself up for losses either… and can have a safe full of functioning, fully capable firearms, for a fraction of the new/retail cost… leaving more $ in your wallet to invest in whatever it is you please (whether it’s fine custom guns, your 401k, real estate, etc…)…

 

[cash_tx]

Not a bad deal for someone who wants one. Pre-salt wood, beautiful timber, nice engraving, and diamond checkering on the fore-end.

Belgium Browning High Power Safari bolt action rifle in .458

Belgium Browning High Power Safari bolt action rifle in .458 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[BGHNTR416]

Ruger RSM in 375 H&H for $2395

Ruger M77 RSM Safari Express 375H+H : 955264159

Buy a Other Other <p>Ruger M77 RSM Safari Express 375H+H 23 barrel with integral quarter rib with 1 standing and 2 fol for sale by First Stop Gun on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 955264159

www.gunsamerica.com

 

[CZDiesel]

This looks like a crazy good deal!!! You could not buy the parts for this price and being a Pre-64 it’s just crazy! My nephew was in there today holding this rifle and the salesman told him that they would take $5,000 for it!
Any negotiations and specifics on the rifle would need to be found out on your end but looks like an absolute steal!!!

Inventory | William Larkin Moore

 

[wesheltonj]

I have seen those before, they are quite common actually. Called a Schuetzen rifle. They are target rifles for a style of shooting where you are standing up, no support. That explains the amount of drop on the stock and the metal work that allows to grip the shoulder for maximum stability.

Although this is a nice example, much more embellished than usually, they do not often go for a lot of money. They are only good for their single purpose for which they were built, an activity that no longer exists, or as a wall hanger.

Here is another one:

Swiss/German Martini Left Hand Schuetzen Target Rifle 22lr***Sold***

Swiss/German Martini Single Shot Schuetzen Target Rifle in 22LR. Engraved receiver, original globe front and rear sight with key, double set triggers, original sling and adjustable palm rest. Left hand stock with adjustable butt plate and palm rest. 29" heavy barrel with an excellent bore...

www.buffaloarms.com

Actually, that activity still lives in the Texas Hill Country. Two big clubs, New Braunfels and Boerne.

 

[Altitude sickness]

 

[cash_tx]

I didn't realize that Howa made the 1500 in 375 Ruger, but this might be the most affordable option I've seen for getting into the DGR game.

Howa 1500

Howa 1500 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[gillettehunter]

I have the Howa in the .375 Ruger. Mine is fairly light weight and thus has a significant recoil. Mine is probably 1 1/2 inch gun with 300 gr Swifts in it. I took a couple of buffalo with it and it functioned well.
Bruce

 

[CZDiesel]

Good deal for someone looking for a new custom build!

Pre 64 Winchester model 70 375/ 300 action

Pre 64 Winchester model 70 375/ 300 action for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[rookhawk]

Good deal for someone looking for a new custom build!

Pre 64 Winchester model 70 375/ 300 action

Pre 64 Winchester model 70 375/ 300 action for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

I normally shy away from action “deals”, but I think you’re right on with this one. It really isn’t a lot of money for a known-good action that includes the 3 position safety and bottom metal. Perfect for a custom 404J or other similar project. Best of all, you can find semi-inletted and finished, quite elaborate pre-64 stocks out there so someone could put together a very nice custom for not a ton of money.

 

[tward1604]

I normally shy away from action “deals”, but I think you’re right on with this one. It really isn’t a lot of money for a known-good action that includes the 3 position safety and bottom metal. Perfect for a custom 404J or other similar project. Best of all, you can find semi-inletted and finished, quite elaborate pre-64 stocks out there so someone could put together a very nice custom for not a ton of money.

It hurts not having the money for this action. Would be perfect to build a 300 H&H on. The only magnum 30 I want.

 

[BGHNTR416]

Anyone watching this one? Less than 2 hours to go and a pretty deep discount on a Dakota 76 in 416 Rigby due to some bluing blemishes. We will see what it goes for...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1046856061

 

[Certus]

Anyone watching this one? Less than 2 hours to go and a pretty deep discount on a Dakota 76 in 416 Rigby due to some bluing blemishes. We will see what it goes for...

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1046856061

$4950 seems to sell for? Those blemishes were not an issue anyway if you planned to use it.

 

[woodsman1991]

Pretty low price right now on this Rigby, penny start no reserve.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1048093369

 

[RR 314]

Pretty low price right now on this Rigby, penny start no reserve.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1048093369

It will be interesting to see where this one ends. Somebody may get carried away and hit the buy it now. If they love the rifle, great for them. This was during the dark/American days of Rigby. I have seen similar rifles go for under $1000 without the case (from memory). Again, that likely will not be the case with this one. Would obviously be thousands of dollars to stock a Parker Hale like this one—not to mention the EAW rings and bases and case. Then again, the way I look at you are still evaluating a PH with very nice upgrades.