Albert GRANT
AH elite
Ruger No. 1 .416 Rigby with a scary looking scope setup for that caliber!
Already sold as far as I knowFor all of you lefties out there Cabelas in Glendale Arizona has a Winchester M70 classic LH in 270 win.It is stainless and walnut for $999.It also has a weaver scope.
Could you trust the stock repair to the wrist though? How much does that affect the value?These are nice guns. 270 seems to be the most common and lowest value caliber. I've seen these go for $1100-$1400, with or without scopes/mounts. Minty w/ box ones in 270, up to $1700.
Could you trust the stock repair to the wrist though? How much does that affect the value?
ROOKHAWK: From what I’ve read and been told (I’m not the expert) a properly repaired wood stock [drilled, epoxy, rod) is as strong as any original wood stock and that the crack-joint after bonding is “stronger” then the original wood, it will never break “on the bonded joint”. I would think the key is “Properly repaired”? I would also be uncomfortable buying a repaired stock - and expect some price reduction for my “perceived“ risk. I had a Browning Citori with slight crack behind tang and most certainly from my “over oil” and seeped into and weakened that part of the wood over 40 years. I was going to order a New stock but was told “You’re wasting your money - there is no need to do that”. It was repaired for a fraction of cost of new stock and the repair is “undetectable” - no problems after 20,000 roundsDidn't see that. I don't buy guns with repaired wrists, ever. I treat them as scrap-value whether they are Steyr or Purdey.
ROOKHAWK: From what I’ve read and been told (I’m not the expert) a properly repaired wood stock [drilled, epoxy, rod) is as strong as any original wood stock and that the crack-joint after bonding is “stronger” then the original wood, it will never break “on the bonded joint”. I would think the key is “Properly repaired”? I would also be uncomfortable buying a repaired stock - and expect some price reduction for my “perceived“ risk. I had a Browning Citori with slight crack behind tang and most certainly from my “over oil” and seeped into and weakened that part of the wood over 40 years. I was going to order a New stock but was told “You’re wasting your money - there is no need to do that”. It was repaired for a fraction of cost of new stock and the repair is “undetectable” - no problems after 20,000 rounds
ROOKHAWK: You’re moving too fast for me - let me “catch up”. I get that any “rotted” wood is beyond repair and perhaps cracks in some locations also can’t be repaired - especially with heavy recoiling guns. But aren’t there some cracks that are easily repaired and have a very high likelihood of remaining fixed & secure”? Also questioning your replacement stock prices - unless these are from Holland & Holland, a new stock (not custom made from scratch) also referred to as a “replacement stock” form manufactures like Caesar Guerini, Beretta etc.. can be purchased/installed from the manufacturers for around $2000 (depending on grade of wood). Either we are not talking apples to apples —- or my information has come from Used Car Salesman (which it did Not - some very respected names I spoke with).A hairline crack forming at the back of the top tang of a rifle/shotgun that is filled with appropriate epoxy and blind screwed and pinned can be stabilized.
Cracks at wrist and rot at the head of a stock are never, ever the same. Even more so with modern "through bolted" stocks that have a void in them.
I see all manner of these dubious repairs on guns, then embellished checkering applied over the repair lines in a cracked wrist to conceal them. They are decorative wall-hangers, but not sold as such.
A proper "best gun" boxlock stocking runs $4000-$8000 w/ wood. A "best gun" sidelock stocking runs $6000-Infinity w/ wood. A restocked gun done by the finest craftsman in the world results in a 20%-40% loss in value, on average, post repair.
Broken and repaired guns are always offered for sale for orders of magnitude more than their actual value. Not to sound condescending, but only ill-informed buyers purchase them, usually on the Internet with undisclosed issues, or from Cabelas. (where junk guns are sent to be purchased by untrained $15 per hour staff using a bluebook of gun values estimate)
ROOKHAWK: You’re moving too fast for me - let me “catch up”. I get that any “rotted” wood is beyond repair and perhaps cracks in some locations also can’t be repaired - especially with heavy recoiling guns. But aren’t there some cracks that are easily repaired and have a very high likelihood of remaining fixed & secure”? Also questioning your replacement stock prices - unless these are from Holland & Holland, a new stock (not custom made from scratch) also referred to as a “replacement stock” form manufactures like Caesar Guerini, Beretta etc.. can be purchased/installed from the manufacturers for around $2000 (depending on grade of wood). Either we are not talking apples to apples —- or my information has come from Used Car Salesman (which it did Not - some very respected names I spoke with).