COVID-19 Coronavirus UPDATES, BANS, CLOSURES, ADVISORY, etc.

[Standard Velocity]

Social Distancing done OLD SCHOOL!

I’ve been waiting for hermitude to come back. Boy am I prepared.

 

[Wheels]

Individual countries were about to start acting alone so they were forced to close everything.

Yep. I have been critical of the EU for a long time.( I was a fan of the original set up) The virus and economic issues of 2020 will put a tremendous amount of pressure on Brussels.

 

[Brent in Az]

Our Leftist idiot Mayor of Tucson, just issued a proclamation of business closures.

We only have 4 cases of the virus here in Pima county.

Monkey see, Monkey do.

 

[Chago]

I just moved my trip from May to August....... so depressing. The whole world agreed eating chickens was OK, there was a meeting and everything. But no these fu$%ers just had to use bats in their soup. Chicken wasn't exotic enough, you could have used pheasant, quail, a bloody seagull. But nooooooo...... we needed to experiment with bats. And now the entire world is shut down. Because of bat soup fever.

 

[Wheels]

This is how we will defeat the virus. Everyday people using their talents to solve a problem. Two great examples. We have millions of people like this!

1.

COVID19 Retweeted

alan drummond
@alandrummond2
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2 So in ten minutes the evil genius who is one of our GP anaesthetists (with a PhD in diaphragmatic mechanics) increased our rural hospitals ventilator capacity from one to nine!!!






2.

COVID19 Retweeted

Nate Murray
@eigenjoy
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Mar 16
There's a Facebook group with 6,000 members dedicated to designing open-source COVID-19 medical supplies. The group is sharing CAD files for ventilators, respirators, and equipment that can be fabricated in emergency conditions. Absolutely inspiring https://facebook.com/groups/670932227050506…

 

[huntermn15]

Thanks for posting wheels. Cheers to them and the many others making a difference!

 

[Hogpatrol]

Social distancing champion ship goes to:

 

[Wheels]

Here is a good graphic comparing the Wuhan Virus to other outbreaks over the past 200 years.

 

[Wheels]

US Airline industry wants $50B and have just spent $44B on stock buybacks. The Airline industry has always been cyclical with significant drawdowns. Cash has always been important. Think TWA, Pan-Am, Branif......... Unfortunately the US government will not let any of these companies fail. Since we will bail them out anyway, why don't we require that in exchange for the money, the top 10 executives at each company leave and forfeit their golden parachutes. For this equity infusion, the US government becomes 50% owner of the companies and the government will have to divest their equity to the market within ten years with the money being returned to the US treasury.

Instead, the top executives of these companies that have led them to this precipice will probably make hundreds of millions of dollars in bonuses over the next ten years.

US airline industry seeks about $50 billion in federal help

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/16/business/us-airlines-federal-bailout/index.html


US Airlines have spent $44B on buybacks in last ten years.

 

[Brent in Az]

The Airlines, and Casino industry, can go pound sand. They can deal with this just like the rest of us have to. They are always crying for money in tough times.

People are getting laid off by the millions, over an over hyped panic fueled virus scare. Lives will be turned upside down.

Guess what? Now the politicians want to send us a stimulus check $500 -$1000 maybe? Big friggin deal.

Some of us are not as well heeled as others. Much tougher to deal with an economic storm of this magnitude.

Coronavirus? Bring it on.

Better then being homeless, or not being able to pay the bills, and put food on the table.

At what point did this country chop off it's own balls?

 

[Wheels]

I stopped in at Cabela's today to pick something up.

Walked past the ammo area and it looked like the paper goods section of Costco. There were shotgun shells and oddball stuff like 41mag and 30 40 Krag, plus a few normal things.

9 mm and 5.6 were nonexistent and no date for the back order to be filled.

 

[Red Leg]

I stopped in at Cabela's today to pick something up.

Walked past the ammo area and it looked like the paper goods section of Costco. There were shotgun shells and oddball stuff like 41mag and 30 40 Krag, plus a few normal things.

9 mm and 5.6 were nonexistent and no date for the back order to be filled.

Around 2006, my business unit in Northrop Grumman teamed with ATK on a pursuit. I got to know a number of my counterparts really well, including the guy who ran Federal which was an ATK subsidiary. Over a single malt we were discussing the great post 911 ammunition panic and shortage. You may remember some of the conspiracy theories at the time such as the administration was ordering the ammunition makers to produce less as a way of circumventing the 2d amendment etc. etc. etc. The reality was that neither Federal nor any of the other major players changed their production goals an iota - in spite of major new Army and USMC buys. However, because of the panic buying, the normal production schedule took nearly three years to fully saturate the market again so normal stocking could resume. I would guess we are in for another period of "oh my God, there is no ammunition!" hysteria to go along with food and toilette paper. Our local HEB's have been unable to keep fresh meat on the shelves (much less canned goods) for more than a week. I am somewhat confident that doomsdayers will all eventually fill their freezers.

 

[Brent in Az]

Around 2006, my business unit in Northrop Grumman teamed with ATK on a pursuit. I got to know a number of my counterparts really well, including the guy who ran Federal which was an ATK subsidiary. Over a single malt we were discussing the great post 911 ammunition panic and shortage. You may remember some of the conspiracy theories at the time such as the administration was ordering the ammunition makers to produce less as a way of circumventing the 2d amendment etc. etc. etc. The reality was that neither Federal nor any of the other major players changed their production goals an iota - in spite of major new Army and USMC buys. However, because of the panic buying, the normal production schedule took nearly three years to fully saturate the market again so normal stocking could resume. I would guess we are in for another period of "oh my God, there is no ammunition!" hysteria to go along with food and toilette paper. Our local HEB's have been unable to keep fresh meat on the shelves (much less canned goods) for more than a week. I am somewhat confident that doomsdayers will all eventually fill their freezers.

When I was in Montana, I worked for Blackhawk. A subsidiary owned by ATK. One of the perks, was getting big employee discounts from any of the ATK owned companies. There was a limit on how much you could purchase per calender quarter, and it had to be for personal use only.

 

[Red Leg]

Six out of seven, or 86 percent of all COVID-19 cases were not reported in China before the implementation of travel restrictions, according to a study published in the journal Science and funded by the National Institute of Health. As posted by Fox this evening.

Assuming that study is reasonably accurate, it does potentially modify the death rate percentage. I still believe that we are addressing this particular pestilence exactly backwards. Because of those measures, we are already seeing in places like Florida and Berlin a backlash among younger members of our society who are starting to openly resent and ignore restrictions. This disease has given us a pretty precise target group - one that is significantly smaller than our population. I strongly believe "containment" should be supplanted with "protection" in order to keep the most vulnerable from being exposed to the general population. It wouldn't flatten the curve generally, but it would flatten it dramatically for those likely most in need of intensive medical care. And though it will be inconvenient for that group until a Tamaflu-like treatment or vaccine is approved, it would be a dramatically less inconvenient strategy for our economy than the one we are now following.

 

[EricB]

This may mutate like the Spanish Flu and become more deadly. My Dad told us stories about the Spanish Flu at Camp Funston on Ft. Riley Kansas. Dad said they never caught it because they never went to town. He said neighbors talk to each other at a distance. I live on the same creek by the same base and I ain't going to town.

I spent many Saturday nights in Aggeville 20+ years ago, used to live in Enterprise back then. Living in Wichita now.

 

[EricB]

I just moved my trip from May to August....... so depressing. The whole world agreed eating chickens was OK, there was a meeting and everything. But no these fu$%ers just had to use bats in their soup. Chicken wasn't exotic enough, you could have used pheasant, quail, a bloody seagull. But nooooooo...... we needed to experiment with bats. And now the entire world is shut down. Because of bat soup fever.

 

[Wheels]

Around 2006, my business unit in Northrop Grumman teamed with ATK on a pursuit. I got to know a number of my counterparts really well, including the guy who ran Federal which was an ATK subsidiary. Over a single malt we were discussing the great post 911 ammunition panic and shortage. You may remember some of the conspiracy theories at the time such as the administration was ordering the ammunition makers to produce less as a way of circumventing the 2d amendment etc. etc. etc. The reality was that neither Federal nor any of the other major players changed their production goals an iota - in spite of major new Army and USMC buys. However, because of the panic buying, the normal production schedule took nearly three years to fully saturate the market again so normal stocking could resume. I would guess we are in for another period of "oh my God, there is no ammunition!" hysteria to go along with food and toilette paper. Our local HEB's have been unable to keep fresh meat on the shelves (much less canned goods) for more than a week. I am somewhat confident that doomsdayers will all eventually fill their freezers.

22lr was in shortage a few years ago. A friend called and he had found five cases and asked me how many I wanted and he would get them for me. I told him I was still working on a brick I had bought ten years previously and didn't need any more. He thought I was crazy. If I recall correctly he bought all five cases himself. My guess is when he dies he will still have four unopened.

Regarding the hoarding of toilet paper, I was Whatsapping a friend in Tanzania yesterday. He thought the hoarding was funny. His response is we don't use it here. It is interesting what people consider important or not.

I will confess I have hoarded during this emergency. From the end of January until mid February, I made sure that my family had a six month supply of prescriptions. Other than that our shopping was pretty close to normal.

If our freezer gets low I call a friend and we will split a steer. Some things are easier in a rural state than the big cities.

 

[Ridge Runner]

I stopped in at Cabela's today to pick something up.

Walked past the ammo area and it looked like the paper goods section of Costco. There were shotgun shells and oddball stuff like 41mag and 30 40 Krag, plus a few normal things.

9 mm and 5.6 were nonexistent and no date for the back order to be filled.

Huh, I walked into a Walmart 3 hours from home to pick up my prescription meds, their selves were full of all the common ammo calibers, odd calibers, gauges of shotgun shells.

Because I reload and have plenty of bullets, I didn't buy a single box.

Don't know about the rest of AH members' locations, here in my area of Tennessee, gas prices have dropped from $2.38 per 9/10ths of a US gallon to $1.82 per 9/10ths of a US gallon, within the last week.

Sad thing is I filled my gas tank and usual 3- 5+ gallon cans yesterday at $1.92 per 9/10ths gallon. Gas prices dropped 5 cents per gallon between 5am and 12pm (noon) EST just today.

 

[EricB]

Huh, I walked into a Walmart 3 hours from home to pick up my prescription meds, their selves were full of all the common ammo calibers, odd calibers, gauges of shotgun shells.

Because I reload and have plenty of bullets, I didn't buy a single box.

I got into reloading when I bought my .458 Lott, right around the time of the last ammo shortage. I bought all the dies and bullets for the rounds that I use, and I still have enough powder and bullets for a lifetime so I don't need to buy ammo for a long time.

 

[Standard Velocity]

Around 2006, my business unit in Northrop Grumman teamed with ATK on a pursuit. I got to know a number of my counterparts really well, including the guy who ran Federal which was an ATK subsidiary. Over a single malt we were discussing the great post 911 ammunition panic and shortage. You may remember some of the conspiracy theories at the time such as the administration was ordering the ammunition makers to produce less as a way of circumventing the 2d amendment etc. etc. etc. The reality was that neither Federal nor any of the other major players changed their production goals an iota - in spite of major new Army and USMC buys. However, because of the panic buying, the normal production schedule took nearly three years to fully saturate the market again so normal stocking could resume. I would guess we are in for another period of "oh my God, there is no ammunition!" hysteria to go along with food and toilette paper. Our local HEB's have been unable to keep fresh meat on the shelves (much less canned goods) for more than a week. I am somewhat confident that doomsdayers will all eventually fill their freezers.

During the last ammo shortage it was all of the oddball cartridges that were available. Once they were gone, everything was gone.

I wouldn’t say I have all the ammunition I’ll ever need, but I don’t feel the need to panic buy.