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, hardly feel threatened and as if they are holding my privelage over me.
So far...............

And when they order you to do something that you don't want to do like maybe get vaccinated? Or myriad other things they deem necessary.... All of a sudden your privilege is no longer in their interests and you are deemed "unfit" or a "risk" or a "troublemaker'....

No thanks!! I'd rather have a right than a privilege any day!
 
So far...............

And when they order you to do something that you don't want to do like maybe get vaccinated? Or myriad other things they deem necessary.... All of a sudden your privilege is no longer in their interests and you are deemed "unfit" or a "risk" or a "troublemaker'....

No thanks!! I'd rather have a right than a privilege any day!
Sadly, until you're hit with a Tac/assault team; after the example set by chairman Dan, don't be surprised at what follows; a declaration of emergency powers, open-ended, Being a 'hero' right now is inviting retaliation; then where our "freedoms" be??
 
Who is talking about being a hero?????? I don't think anyone is talking about retaliating using firearms for any situation mentioned in this thread. But maybe governments would not be so quick to throw the population to the global wolves if they thought the armed population might just say no thanks I'm not going to comply with your gutless commie orders.

At least when you have a 'right to bear arms" be it hunting / self defence / enthusiast you have that right.

Having a privilege you are ALWAYS held to whims of whoever has the power to say "up yours mate" for whatever reason they feel appropriate for the day.
 
Who is talking about being a hero?????? I don't think anyone is talking about retaliating using firearms for any situation mentioned in this thread. But maybe governments would not be so quick to throw the population to the global wolves if they thought the armed population might just say no thanks I'm not going to comply with your gutless commie orders.

At least when you have a 'right to bear arms" be it hunting / self defence / enthusiast you have that right.

Having a privilege you are ALWAYS held to whims of whoever has the power to say "up yours mate" for whatever reason they feel appropriate for the day.
Agreed, Zambezi; I was pointing in the direction of the more radical protesters, if a "lawful" firearm owner was stupid enough to get involved in that scenario he could expect confiscation at least. Imagine the media running loose about that. Walk softly, and (metaphorically) carry a big stick
 
Sure do, what's your opinion of Biden/Harris supporter's? What's their opinion of you?
I will be blunt. Liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
I HATE liberals and all they stand for.
Anyone who voted for Sippy Cup is a fool and a libtard/moron/jerk! We may spend years recovering from this miscarriage.

And I guarantee they feel the same towards anyone who votes conservative or for Trump. Guess you didnt see our news the night Trump was elected.
There were enough libtard tears to fill a good sized lake!
Bunch of pussyhat wearing, bed wetting, woke retards!

Hows that for an answer?
 
Personally the Australian privelage to own firearms makes more sense than the right to bear arms
Two key words there in this sentence. RIGHT and Privilege. If you dont understand the difference between the two, well then you need to get educated.
 
it would be better if an American explained the process but my daughter who lives in Albuquerque has opened my eyes to how we in Australia have no idea about the American gun laws because of how it is portrayed as being the wild west by the MSM but its not exactly open slather or free access from what l have been told, not everyone can buy or own guns
and you cannot have a lot of the guns we think you can eg... machineguns ect.. apparently
she has her gun licence as well as concealed carry that is required in many states, she could not buy or own a firearm till she became a resident
there is a lot more behind the mass shootings than free access to guns IMO
in Victoria we do not call firearms weapons because weapons are used to kill people and we are not allowed to kill people, l understand Qld does call firearms weapons
in Victoria we can have our firearms licence taken off us for a speeding ticket, you have to be a real clean skin or your privileges may be taken away in our nanny state, l suppose like you can for the anti association laws you have in Qld

United States 1Pass an instant background check that considers criminal convictions, domestic violence and immigration status. 2Buy a gun. Many states have additional buying restrictions, including waiting periods and expanded background checks.

I'm sure US laws are more complex than I understand, agree with you on the weapons reference. I have a firearms license that is obtained from weapons licencing, was it NSW they banned the number plate WEPN because it incited violence?
 
So far...............

And when they order you to do something that you don't want to do like maybe get vaccinated? Or myriad other things they deem necessary.... All of a sudden your privilege is no longer in their interests and you are deemed "unfit" or a "risk" or a "troublemaker'....

No thanks!! I'd rather have a right than a privilege any day!
Will put my foil hat on and hide in the corner so they can't take my license if I don't get a needle.
 
it would be better if an American explained the process but my daughter who lives in Albuquerque has opened my eyes to how we in Australia have no idea about the American gun laws because of how it is portrayed as being the wild west by the MSM but its not exactly open slather or free access from what l have been told, not everyone can buy or own guns
and you cannot have a lot of the guns we think you can eg... machineguns ect.. apparently
she has her gun licence as well as concealed carry that is required in many states, she could not buy or own a firearm till she became a resident
there is a lot more behind the mass shootings than free access to guns IMO
in Victoria we do not call firearms weapons because weapons are used to kill people and we are not allowed to kill people, l understand Qld does call firearms weapons
in Victoria we can have our firearms licence taken off us for a speeding ticket, you have to be a real clean skin or your privileges may be taken away in our nanny state, l suppose like you can for the anti association laws you have in Qld

United States 1Pass an instant background check that considers criminal convictions, domestic violence and immigration status. 2Buy a gun. Many states have additional buying restrictions, including waiting periods and expanded background checks.

This is largely correct though as you say, much varies from state to state as to restrictions. Something to know however is that the states with the most restrictive gun laws have the most crime, counterintuitive I know but its true.
Also a minor correction. Fully automatic guns are legal in most states if one is willing to go thru the Govt BS to own them, pay a tax, let along the sky high cost of them anywhere, in the many thousands of dollars.
My state does not allow them to be owned by individuals, but I believe Oregon right below us does and other western states do as well.
The incidence of crime committed with legally owned machine guns is too small to measure, almost non existent.
 
Who is talking about being a hero?????? I don't think anyone is talking about retaliating using firearms for any situation mentioned in this thread. But maybe governments would not be so quick to throw the population to the global wolves if they thought the armed population might just say no thanks I'm not going to comply with your gutless commie orders.

At least when you have a 'right to bear arms" be it hunting / self defence / enthusiast you have that right.

Having a privilege you are ALWAYS held to whims of whoever has the power to say "up yours mate" for whatever reason they feel appropriate for the day.
That's the view portrayed by the US, don't wanna do it and I've got a gun and I'll use it. Don't like the election result? I've got a gun! I don't want abide government or state recommendations? I've got a gun!
 
I will be blunt. Liberalism is a serious mental disorder.
I HATE liberals and all they stand for.
Anyone who voted for Sippy Cup is a fool and a libtard/moron/jerk! We may spend years recovering from this miscarriage.

And I guarantee they feel the same towards anyone who votes conservative or for Trump. Guess you didnt see our news the night Trump was elected.
There were enough libtard tears to fill a good sized lake!
Bunch of pussyhat wearing, bed wetting, woke retards!

Hows that for an answer?
Good answer, you are a divided country that gets worse by the year. I was in North Carolina when Trump was elected, saw a lot of tears on your side as everyone thought Hillary was going to win, every gun shop I looked in had people stocking up on ammo because there was going to be a revolution and the government overthrown, it was criminal, they where cheating, Mexicans where voting. Then he won and the other side started the same crybaby shit.
 
That's the view portrayed by the US, don't wanna do it and I've got a gun and I'll use it. Don't like the election result? I've got a gun! I don't want abide government or state recommendations? I've got a gun!
A gross, complete and ridiculous mischaracterization of America and gun owners, you are clueless.
 
Good answer, you are a divided country that gets worse by the year. I was in North Carolina when Trump was elected, saw a lot of tears on your side as everyone thought Hillary was going to win, every gun shop I looked in had people stocking up on ammo because there was going to be a revolution and the government overthrown, it was criminal, they where cheating, Mexicans where voting. Then he won and the other side started the same crybaby shit.
Bullshit! You didnt see anyone on our side crying before the election. Not a chance! Tears of joy afterwards maybe, but not cry baby tears beforehand, no way.
Obviously you dont know anybody on our side of the division and yes we are divided, no question and likely will remain so for the foreseeable future, so what?
 
But if we had more gun's we wouldn't have to go through this covid shit? More than one american has insinuated that point?
Again, horsehockey!! Name one person of note who ever said if we had more guns we wouldnt have to go thru this.
Totally pull it out your hat nonsense, just making it up as you go.
 
Don't get too worked up @sestoppelman. This is coming from a guy whose country is putting people in concentration camps and has been kept on lockdown for 1.5 years while the rest of us travelled the country and the world for most of it. They're still papering people for walking down the street like they're the Gestapo for crying out loud.

There's a girl on YT who is very right leaning and left Oz because as she puts it and I'm paraphrasing here, "Australian's like and embrace the gov't running their lives" and she couldn't deal with it anymore. She came to the US and lives here now. She's actually a friend of Avi's who also puts good content on YT.
 
Don't get too worked up @sestoppelman. This is coming from a guy whose country is putting people in concentration camps and has been kept on lockdown for 1.5 years while the rest of us travelled the country and the world for most of it. They're still papering people for walking down the street like they're the Gestapo for crying out loud.

There's a girl on YT who is very right leaning and left Oz because as she puts it and I'm paraphrasing here, "Australian's like and embrace the gov't running their lives" and she couldn't deal with it anymore. She came to the US and lives here now. She's actually a friend of Avi's who also puts good content on YT.
No worries, my spleen needing cleaning out anyway! :ROFLMAO:
 
So I don't agree with you guys on a couple of points about my country and you have an immediate issue with me? Explains your political system. I live here, you get your info from YouTube, a kiwi and a Victorian on a social media platform and your indignant about our police state? Same as your country is to me, if you lived here you would see it for what it is and not as it is portrayed on the internet. As for the more guns part re-read this from the top.
No offense meant, we just don't agree on a couple of things and I bet we agree on more than not. Spent a bit of time in the US, nice country and nice people. Also spent some year's working in NZ and months in the Solomon's, each place people are people but you can't expect each country to be the same as the next and conform to the one you live in.
 
So I don't agree with you guys on a couple of points about my country and you have an immediate issue with me?

Explains your political system.

Maybe this quote explains our or at least MY take on your abrasive attitude in general. I won't speak for others. Poke at others and eventually they'll poke back.

To all the Australian's, I hope for nothing but a future filled with common sense and freedom for you.
 

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