At least 50 dead, 200 wounded at shooting on Las Vegas Strip

My thoughts and prayers to everyone who lost loved ones. This is an unspeakable act..
 
What's wrong with checking up on the people,who want to buy a gun?
What's wrong with a regular checkup ?
This has nothing to do with taking away.
Why do people in the USA fight against it so hard?
Young people in the USA are not allowed to enter a bar under the age of 21 years! however, they are allowed to buy guns with 16 ( in some states).
USA Airlines have lists (for the protection of all of us) of violent people who may never board an aircraft, but they can buy weapons. Absurd situation.
I don't want a neighbour who comes from Iraq or Afghanistan with post-traumatic stress disorder and takes his AR 15 into his bed .
Who wants that?
What is happening in America in view of these heartbreaking events in Las Vegas?
Thoughts and prayers. But folks, that's not enough.
Massacres will never be ruled out, but reduced to save lives and not destroy families.
Countless mass shootings since Sandy Hook.
I can't imagine your founding - fathers created the 2.amendment and wanted
that every idiot have no problem getting a gun.
Am I so wrong about what I'm saying, considering the horrors of yesterday ?
Foxi
 
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Simply amazing that a high-ranking, highly educated and trained person who works in the media world would be so stupid as to say such a thing.

I think it shows how white-hot her hatred burns.
Your not really surprised at the media are you? The extreme liberal media will say anything at any time to put down guns, conservatives, our President and anything else that does not fit their narrative to change this country! I hate them.
 
The media will have this on for days. They basically encourage more nut cases. Also facebook has become a platform for the extreme left and right to preach their extreme views to the point of looking somewhat nuts.
 
@Foxi you are not wrong but you have to look at the intent of the founding fathers to allow the American people to overthrow a government if it became to oppressive. That was it's intent.

Also, when you get a National Firearms Act weapon, LEGALLY, you give ATF the right to come into your house. So yeah they can come and check on you.

How much do you want to bet this concert had medal detectors? This shootings happen time and time again in soft targets. Though concealed carry wouldn't have really helped given the guys position.

What if this guy rented a tractor trailer and plowed people leave the concert? What about stabbing, bombs, etc?

There is no perfect system or answer, there are trade offs and risks with every decision, law passed or not. Just in my experience when the government is going to fix something...it usually doesn't work out great for the people.
 
What's wrong with checking up on the people,who want to buy a gun?
What's wrong with a regular checkup ?
This has nothing to do with taking away.
Why do people in the USA fight against it so hard?
Young people in the USA are not allowed to enter a bar under the age of 21 years! however, they are allowed to buy guns with 16 ( in some states).
USA Airlines have lists (for the protection of all of us) of violent people who may never board an aircraft, but they can buy weapons. Absurd situation.
I don't want a neighbour who comes from Iraq or Afghanistan with post-traumatic stress disorder and takes his AR 15 into his bed .
Who wants that?
What is happening in America in view of these heartbreaking events in Las Vegas?
Thoughts and prayers. But folks, that's not enough.
Massacres will never be ruled out, but reduced to save lives and not destroy families.
Countless mass shootings since Sandy Hook.
I can't imagine your founding - fathers created the 2.amendment and wanted
that every idiot have no problem getting a gun.
Am I so wrong about what I'm saying, considering the horrors of yesterday ?
Foxi
Foxi,
Your information is incorrect. There is no state in the USA that anyone can purchase a firearm at 16. The law is 18 years old to buy a long gun, 21 years old to purchase a pistol. There are background checks prior to the purchase of firearms. Most firearms that are used by criminals are not obtained through legal purchase. The black market is everywhere, quite certain it is active in your country as well.
The misconception over seas is that America is still like the Wild West with showdowns in the streets, I assure you this is not the case. Evil will exist as long as evil men walk this earth, they will carry out their carnage regardless of weapon. Is a truck driven into a crowded shopping area a less offensive way to commit mass murder? Any "idiot" can get a drivers license. You don't even need a drivers license to walk in and buy a truck! The attacks in Paris, London and throughout the EU? Are these excused because they are Radical Muslim zealots? Evil happens regardless of location and a means of execution are not the concern. You bring up Sandy Hook, this kid was the result of pussified mentality of our country, same with Colimbine and the theater in Aurora, co. When your kid starts acting like weirdo and dressing like he is going to a funeral every day, you don't say "he is just expressing himself". Every time I "expressed" myself that wasn't the way my dad thought appropriate, I got my ass beat and rethought my position. I thank my parents for this.
Until there is no violence on the other side of the pond, those methods are unproven! And whether anyone likes to remember it or not, young American men with guns have kept the free world from being taken over by communism and fascist regimes, Adolf Hitler comes to mind.
People in glass houses should not cast stones.
No disrespect meant Foxi, just some factual information and my opinion
Regards,
Cody
 
It is a really horrible reality that the USA has been plagued by such tragedy recently. I personally find it very confusing, because I honestly find Americans generally to be a very friendly and supportive group. I find Americans will accept different ideas more readily than any other culture. People from all over the globe find a home in the US when their own country does not afford them the ability to thrive. So, this evil is so odd.

Gun control may prevent the scale of destruction and personal tragedy, but it won't do anything to answer why people from different backgrounds and circumstances decide the right thing to do is to kill as many of their fellow citizens as possible before they die.

In Canada, I cannot buy a full automatic firearm. I could buy any number of semi automatic rifles, as I believe this ass had. I can buy them at the same age. I can buy pistols too. The only difference I can see is that I am required to undergo a two day course with a test at the end. I then submit to a police check. But, after that, there is no further intrusion into my life. I can buy and sell fairly easily.

Despite the relative simplicity of a our laws we haven't experienced the same level of deranged assaults as the USA. So, while I believe that the courses, and police check, may be a soft barrier for some, I am inclined to believe there is a much greater problem that needs to be addressed. Otherwise, it just makes no sense to me.

And, its not economic oppression because this most recent freak was a millionaire. I think most in the past have been middle class.

I totally understand the intent of the 2nd amendment, I doubt it would do any good if the government chose to turn the might of the USA military against its own people.

It's a tough nut to crack, for sure. But inflamed rhetoric will not get to the root of the issue, that is for sure. My thoughts and prayers are with my American friends. This is a very sad situation, just heart breaking.
 
God Bless America and be with all who have been touched by this unfortunate event.
 
The media has let the nut cases win. Its on TV 24-7. This is exactly what the terrorist and nut cases want. Keep the terror alive.
 
The media has let the nut cases win. Its on TV 24-7. This is exactly what the terrorist and nut cases want. Keep the terror alive.
Are you watching TV? Seems to be what the public wants, just like the Roman games.
 
The media has let the nut cases win. Its on TV 24-7. This is exactly what the terrorist and nut cases want. Keep the terror alive.
Yes. And this type of media coverage will inspire the next copycat shooter to achieve a higher death toll. The ghouls in the media are responsible for much of what happens.
 
Turn it off. There is life after TV.
 
Foxi,
Your information is incorrect. There is no state in the USA that anyone can purchase a firearm at 16.
Cody
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwimjJTc-tTWAhWJYpoKHb_yBiQQFgguMAE&url=http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-laws/policy-areas/who-can-have-a-gun/minimum-age/&usg=AOvVaw2jx2EgOEBSAb1htwXB3sF6
Please have a carefully look at Maine, Vermont and Minnesota +Mas. and others.

"And whether anyone likes to remember it or not, young American men with guns have kept the free world from being taken over by communism and fascist regimes, Adolf Hitler comes to mind."

@Bullthrower ,@Living the dream and @all the other folks:
be sure, its unforgotten in my country,may you say over the Germans what you want.
Pax Americana was our greatest luck.We never forget that.

For the rest of your posting I need more time.
English is really a difficult language for me.
 
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The Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence is a far left field source. The Federal law prevents sale of long guns to anyone less than 18, hand guns to anyone less than 21 years of age. This Reference sets minimum age for private long gun sales, fed mandates a transfer of a handgun cannot be to a person less than 18 in a private transaction. Thanks for the reference though, I looked directly at state law to understand where this was coming from.
 
My son and I both made the same comment this morning. Bump fire or crank type. Fire rate was too inconsistent.

Does it really matter? Maybe a tired finger?
How it was done and with what seems pretty irrelevant to me.

No offense intended
 
Anyone over 21 can buy booze, get drunk, and promptly kill multiple people in a drunk driving incident.

Are we going to ban, Budweiser & Chevrolets?
 
Does it really matter? Maybe a tired finger?
How it was done and with what seems pretty irrelevant to me.

No offense intended
You better believe it matters!

It forms the game-plan by which the left will try to chip away at the 2nd Amendment.
 
Anyone over 21 can buy booze, get drunk, and promptly kill multiple people in a drunk driving incident.

Are we going to ban, Budweiser & Chevrolets?

As a Ford driver who doesn't drink ... it would be a start :whistle:!
 

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