.270 vs 7*57 Which is the best???

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

I find the .270 to be oddly boring. I have owned several over the years, but never hunted with any of them…always found myself reaching for something else when it came time to choose the rifle for the hunt. I’ve never been able to figure out why it hold no appeal for me because I use similarly boring cartridges all the time (7x57, 30-06, 7 mag). No 270’s currently in my stable, but lots of other boring rifles quietly wait their turn.

@m457109
If jack O'Connor didn't praise the 270 and beat it to death with high praise it would never have got off the ground. It won't do anything the 280 and old ought 6 won't do as good or better
Bob

 

[colorado]

270 Win no doubt. 130g bullet at 3100 fps, 150g bullet at 2900 fps. Do the math.

 

[dogcat1]

Both are excellent. Hard to make a choice. I shoot both.... a lot.

 

[IvW]

7x57mm......for Africa anyway

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

270 Win no doubt. 130g bullet at 3100 fps, 150g bullet at 2900 fps. Do the math.

@colorado
30-06 150 gn 3,000 fps. 220gn up to 2,500 fps.
No maths needed ought six wins.
Bob

 

[F. Vaccaro]

@m457109
If jack O'Connor didn't praise the 270 and beat it to death with high praise it would never have got off the ground. It won't do anything the 280 and old ought 6 won't do as good or better
Bob

And let's not forget Elanore took a bunch of game with the 7X57 She was a pretty accomplished hunter in her own right.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

And let's not forget Elanore took a bunch of game with the 7X57 She was a pretty accomplished hunter in her own right.

@F. Vaccaro
She didn't need no over hyped 270
Bob

 

[RayAtkinson]

Better? for what, I have both, not much different except the 270 is more powerful, shoots flatter , brass and bullets are easier to find, even in Africa and the North Pole end of story, which one is newer Id be suspicious of a rifle with no blue left..I like both calibers along with a 30-06, 308, and lesser calibers. de[pends on what you are using it on... ,
This caliber vs that caliber can be a slippery road,,

Bob,
Your right the 270 wont do anymore than the 06, 280 7x57, then again the 06,280 ,7x57 wont do anything the ,270 wont do, Jack knew that.

 

[Sheldor]

The 270 Win and 7x57 are virtual twins ballistically, the 7x57 supposedly has an edge with heavier bullets.
The 30-06 has about 20% more power due to the larger caliber bullet.

 

[CBH Australia]

The 270 Win and 7x57 are virtual twins ballistically, the 7x57 supposedly has an edge with heavier bullets.
The 30-06 has about 20% more power due to the larger caliber bullet.

Interesting as I’ve often read the 7mm-08 and 7x57 being ballistic twins. Not so much the .270 but not disputing it as I have never had one.
I have the 7-08, .280a.i. and now the wife has a 7x64 that I hope to be testing by the end of the week.

But as @RayAtkinson has said .270 is more readily available.

 

[WAB]

Interesting as I’ve often read the 7mm-08 and 7x57 being ballistic twins. Not so much the .270 but not disputing it as I have never had one.
I have the 7-08, .280a.i. and now the wife has a 7x64 that I hope to be testing by the end of the week.

But as @RayAtkinson has said .270 is more readily available.

The 7mm-08 is close with light bullets. Go to 160 or 175 gr bullets and the 7mm-08 can’t keep up. The bullet takes up too much case capacity. Nothing wrong with the 7mm-08, but like many newer cartridges, it is a solution to a problem that didn’t exist.

IMO the .270 and 7x57 are different animals. The .270 comes into its own on long distance shots at deer sized game with the 130 gr bullet. The 7x57 sets itself apart with 175 gr bullets at short to medium range. The penetration of a 175 gr Swift A-Frame has to be seen to be truly appreciated. The 7x57 can manage long range with 145 gr bullets, and the .270 can get by in the bush with 150 gr bullets, but each is a compromise. Two great cartridges with different sweet spots.

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

The 7mm-08 is close with light bullets. Go to 160 or 175 gr bullets and the 7mm-08 can’t keep up. The bullet takes up too much case capacity. Nothing wrong with the 7mm-08, but like many newer cartridges, it is a solution to a problem that didn’t exist.

IMO the .270 and 7x57 are different animals. The .270 comes into its own on long distance shots at deer sized game with the 130 gr bullet. The 7x57 sets itself apart with 175 gr bullets at short to medium range. The penetration of a 175 gr Swift A-Frame has to be seen to be truly appreciated. The 7x57 can manage long range with 145 gr bullets, and the .270 can get by in the bush with 150 gr bullets, but each is a compromise. Two great cartridges with different sweet spots.

I wonder if the real problem the 7mm-08 was trying to solve were whimpy factory loadings (in the US) for the 7x57 for use in old, non M98 rifles? 7mm-08 could be loaded hotter for contemporary American rifles without the lawyers fretting over someone blowing up their M93.

 

[colorado]

Well the 270 Win is obviously the better cartridge unless you call the 7x57 Mauser the 275 Rigby then it wins lol!

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

Well the 270 Win is obviously the better cartridge unless you call the 7x57 Mauser the 275 Rigby then it wins lol!

Well, it’s five better.

 

[WAB]

Well the 270 Win is obviously the better cartridge unless you call the 7x57 Mauser the 275 Rigby then it wins lol!

I hate are you talking about??? 7x57=399

 

[sgt_zim]

The 270 Win and 7x57 are virtual twins ballistically, the 7x57 supposedly has an edge with heavier bullets.
The 30-06 has about 20% more power due to the larger caliber bullet.

No "supposedly" about it. If you can even find a steady supply of 160 bullets in .277, that's the longest/heaviest a standard 10 twist 270 Win will stabilize.

170 - 175 gr 7mm is the bees knees.

 

[sgt_zim]

Better? for what, I have both, not much different except the 270 is more powerful, shoots flatter , brass and bullets are easier to find, even in Africa and the North Pole end of story, which one is newer Id be suspicious of a rifle with no blue left..I like both calibers along with a 30-06, 308, and lesser calibers. de[pends on what you are using it on... ,
This caliber vs that caliber can be a slippery road,,

Bob,
Your right the 270 wont do anymore than the 06, 280 7x57, then again the 06,280 ,7x57 wont do anything the ,270 wont do, Jack knew that.

Dear God, another "270 is a flat shooter."

Every modern bottle neck cartridge is "flat shooting" out to around 300 yards.

And they'll all do something a 270 won't do: shoot bullets heavier than 160 grains. Mass is king when it comes to penetration, not MV. If velocity were everything, we'd all be hunting cape buffaloes and elephants with 204 Rugers.

 

[WAB]

I hate are you talking about??? 7x57=399

Good grief, that was supposed to say ‘what are you talking about?’

 

[CBH Australia]

Dear God, another "270 is a flat shooter."

Every modern bottle neck cartridge is "flat shooting" out to around 300 yards.

And they'll all do something a 270 won't do: shoot bullets heavier than 160 grains. Mass is king when it comes to penetration, not MV. If velocity were everything, we'd all be hunting cape buffaloes and elephants with 204 Rugers.

Well, speaking of Flat Shooters the .204 is like a laser beam. All of our problems are solved.

I have a bias for 7mm and by chance have never owned a .270. I probably won’t now because I have the .280a.i and just bought the wife a 7x64.

As for a .275Rigby that’s a bit of a pipe dream. While I like the idea of a classic traditional fine rifle I’m not likely to buy one and would be reluctant to carry it in the field.

 

[Neophyte]

I’d base my decision on availability of ammo and then condition of the rifle.