C.W. Richter
AH legend
Did Jack O'Connor ever make it to Africa? (Or did his sponsors only spring for ultrathin-skinned sheep hunts on the same continent??) LOL ![Stick Out Tongue :p :p](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/twitter/twemoji@14.0.2/assets/72x72/1f61b.png)
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C.W. Richter757 Ackley improved from my family's 300-yard range yesterday...View attachment 368722View attachment 368722View attachment 368723View attachment 368723View attachment 368724View attachment 368724
No. Because the 757 offers the same V with less powder and recoil (and a shorter gun/action-if desired.) He'd prefer the tried-and-true Mauser action. Not some push-feed coca-cola from America (that wasn't even available then.) Even Rem/Win/Wby et. al. all made great guns once upon a time with the Mauser action (designed by the same guy, Paul Mauser, that crafted the 757 case-which John Browning essentially copied in his '06 nearly 10 yrs. later.) I own 06 guns, but I love my 257 & 757 AIs more. Just because a case contains more powder, it does not mean that additional velocity is guaranteed.would bell have used a 280 for preference if it was available then with modern bullets?
bruce.
(I suspect,) No. Just reading 310 of his hand-written pages. No. He'd far prefer the unadulterated Paul Mauser action (1895) over the current-day (Browning 1903) re-creations. Even the early Rem/Win/Wby et. al.'s all used Mauser actions, but he used what was available to him. A larger bullet frontal area, a heaver bullet with a higher SD penetrate and perform better than a gun offering just higher velocity and a lighter slug. It's not just powder capacity but a balance between cartridge shape, frontal area, SD, lower recoil for accurately placed shots (although everyone but kids agree that a 270 is quite manageable-esp with the poor-for-Africa 130 gr slugs everyone shoots thin-skinned game in America at lower velocities than the sales & marketing dep't. prints on the boxwould bell have used a 280 for preference if it was available then with modern bullets?
bruce.
*my secret is using reading glasses on this non-first focal plane scope. How i love the few first focal planes as the reticle is right in front of your eye and the target way in the background-so no eye hardware required! (Burris Veracity 3-15x does this.) Sadly, not on the gun featured in the photoC.W. Richter
If'n that's a 300 yard group gold plate it, frame the target and hang them on the wall for 7mm any sayers.
Bob
@C.W. Richter(I suspect,) No. Just reading 310 of his hand-written pages. No. He'd far prefer the unadulterated Paul Mauser action (1895) over the current-day (Browning 1903) re-creations. Even the early Rem/Win/Wby et. al.'s all used Mauser actions, but he used what was available to him. A larger bullet frontal area, a heaver bullet with a higher SD penetrate and perform better than a gun offering just higher velocity and a lighter slug. It's not just powder capacity but a balance between cartridge shape, frontal area, SD, lower recoil for accurately placed shots (although everyone but kids agree that a 270 is quite manageable-esp with the poor-for-Africa 130 gr slugs everyone shoots thin-skinned game in America at lower velocities than the sales & marketing dep't. prints on the boxlol Here's a great visual summary of what I've said above...coming from nearly 1/2 century of handloading and shooting. I favor Ackley's simple Improvements. 'Just a chamber reaming away-'Don't even have to take the gun apart if you wish, And you can still use factory ammo if desired (or your baggage gets lost in transit.) In addition, most 270s are equipped with rifling too slow to stabilize the heavier, higher SD bullets that are definitely required for hunting in Africa (or highly recommended for med. game in America-elk/black bear/caribou/moose,) whereas the 757 is a champ be it 130s (America) 140-160-175 grainers. It's the most classic example of "The Bullet Does ALL the Work." Once you add P.O. Ackley to the equation, the 757 knocks the 270 (and 280) out of the park!
Jack did several African hunts. I believe Leonard shot an elephant with a 30-06.Did Jack O'Connor ever make it to Africa? (Or did his sponsors only spring for ultrathin-skinned sheep hunts on the same continent??) LOL![]()
@lwatersJack did several African hunts. I believe Leonard shot an elephant with a 30-06.
That Is an interesting bit of trivia, Professor! Thank you for sharing. How I wish A-Sq.'s "Triad" of bullets were still available today....I have some .338s still, but that will be the end of it. At least we can have his guns. Whelan would agree that they're exceedingly "Interesting!!!" 'Additionally, agree with what Bell said re: the .308 (FMJs available, heavy for caliber, even larger frontal area, Mauser-style action, etc.) With today's powders it is equal to yesterday's 30-06 performance.@C.W. Richter
An interesting bit of trivia : WDM Bell wrote one final article for American Rifleman in 1954 , prior to his death . In it , he mentions that ( were he hunting elephants again in modern times ) his rifle of choice would be a Winchester Model 70 in .308 Winchester . And he would use monometal brass bullets .
This was a gentleman with an immense degree of foresight . In 1954 , he predicted that monometal brass bullets would one day replace conventional full metal jacket bullets . 30 years later , the first monometal naval bronze bullets began to be commercially sold by A-Square .
Hemmingway shot EVERYTHING with a 30-06 (using high SD, heaviest for caliber 220 gr FMJ slugs) to good effect, although it kept his PH on his toes!!! Born in 1899, he must've known the works of Bell?Jack did several African hunts. I believe Leonard shot an elephant with a 30-06.
You turned it into a 6.5x55; what else did you expect apart from stellar performance?2 Years ago, with it being fed my hornady 150gn Interlock hanloads loaded to 2540 fps Mysalf and a friends son (Then age 11) both shot Impala and Blue wildebeest in at Mkuze Ranch near Pongola in northern KZN.
As for the somewhat anaemic load, it was done on purpose to reduce recoil and what a great inside 150m load it proved to be. Not a single bullet recover and all shots were basic heart/lung shots.
Performance on game was excellent with only one fouweled up shot by me on an Impala female. Note to self, Pay carefull attention to tree branches when taking aim.