Good Gun Deals This Week

[VertigoBE]

Double rifle here. Wow this is a neat one.

HOLTS Auctioneers

HOLTS are Europe's leading Auctioneers of Fine Modern & Antique Guns.

www.holtsauctioneers.com

Very good looking rifle in a great condition.

I'd love to hear the input from our experts (@rookhawk & @Red Leg) on this one though. Originally a BPE, but reproofed for nitro 1978. So one would tend to think one can fire NE loads through it, yet Holts still classified it under "Obsolete Rifles"...

Also if someone buys it, to use it, no chance to lengthen the 14.5" stock with those steel heel and toe plates on the stock (at least it would be a travesty removing them) So you had better be sure that this is the length you need.

 

[Aaron N]

For you No1 guys out there, remember this is CAD

 

[Aaron N]

For you No1 guys out there, remember this is CAD

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I can help out if anyone is interested

 

[SStomcat]

What do you guys think of this, talked to the owner this is a CZ rifle that has had stock, safety, bolt upgraded/redone -

9.3x62

9.3x62 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[Rare Breed]

Very good looking rifle in a great condition.

I'd love to hear the input from our experts (@rookhawk & @Red Leg) on this one though. Originally a BPE, but reproofed for nitro 1978. So one would tend to think one can fire NE loads through it, yet Holts still classified it under "Obsolete Rifles"...

Also if someone buys it, to use it, no chance to lengthen the 14.5" stock with those steel heel and toe plates on the stock (at least it would be a travesty removing them) So you had better be sure that this is the length you need.

The only thing that bothers me about HOLTS is their incredible premium mark up. Having said that @rookhawk has told me of some incredible finds and great value on there...you just really have to figure in the total cost of the gun.

 

[Rare Breed]

What do you guys think of this, talked to the owner this is a CZ rifle that has had stock, safety, bolt upgraded/redone -

9.3x62

9.3x62 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

WOW! absolutely love the stock wood! CZ no longer produces which should help value over the years...I just am struggling to pay $4,500 when over the years given how much I buy and sale (lol worse than @TOBY458) I have gotten better value. Nothing more than my experience.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

What do you guys think of this, talked to the owner this is a CZ rifle that has had stock, safety, bolt upgraded/redone -

9.3x62

9.3x62 for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

Looks like an AHR rifle to me

 

[rookhawk]

Very good looking rifle in a great condition.

I'd love to hear the input from our experts (@rookhawk & @Red Leg) on this one though. Originally a BPE, but reproofed for nitro 1978. So one would tend to think one can fire NE loads through it, yet Holts still classified it under "Obsolete Rifles"...

Also if someone buys it, to use it, no chance to lengthen the 14.5" stock with those steel heel and toe plates on the stock (at least it would be a travesty removing them) So you had better be sure that this is the length you need.

A Nitro Express reproof doesn't change the nature of a gun. It just proves that a soft bullet at NE velocity and pressure did not blow the gun up. (note: this proof test can occur with the stock removed so it isn't snapped in testing)

A harkom is a lovely gun, but this lightweight 500 Black Powder Express will never be a 500NE. The gun will be far too late. The barrels are damascus, designed at the time for likely a paper patched lead bullet. That is not and will never be a 500NE that is safe and reliable.

Strong pass on the gun if you intend to use it for anything but 500BPE loads.

 

[BGHNTR416]

The 9.3x62 is priced very fair. If I were after this caliber I would have bought it early this morning. You can't have the stock built for what he is asking.

 

[SStomcat]

Looks like an AHR rifle to me

Probably is, do they retain their value ?

 

[CoElkHunter]

Looks like an AHR rifle to me

+1. Straightened bolt and filled in bolt knob, single custom trigger, three position safety, dual cross bolts and English walnut stock. Definitely an AHR #3 upgraded CZ. They also typically shortened the barrel to 23", recrowned the muzzle and re attached the front sight. Probably worth about $3K for the AHR #3 upgrade four to five years ago.

 

[CoElkHunter]

Probably is, do they retain their value ?

Yes.

 

[rookhawk]

Probably is, do they retain their value ?

I don’t feel AHR are investment grade guns. They are functional and attractive. They do not hold their value, the gun surely cost $6500-$8000 to make and the seller wants half of that. Will it depreciate more with use? Not much. You don’t get a lot of gun for ~$4000.

Personal opinion: if you want a nice looking 9.3 and that’s your budget, that’s your gun. If you’re an investor, it’s not the right maker.

 

[SStomcat]

+1. Straightened bolt and filled in bolt knob, single custom trigger, three position safety, dual cross bolts and English walnut stock. Definitely an AHR #3 upgraded CZ. They also typically shortened the barrel to 23", recrowned the muzzle and re attached the front sight. Probably worth about $3K for the AHR #3 upgrade four to five years ago.

That’s good information to know. Sounds like the seller is asking around the same price that he may have paid including the upgrade back then. Makes me think.

 

[SStomcat]

I don’t feel AHR are investment grade guns. They are functional and attractive. They do not hold their value, the gun surely cost $6500-$8000 to make and the seller wants half of that. Will it depreciate more with use? Not much. You don’t get a lot of gun for ~$4000.

Personal opinion: if you want a nice looking 9.3 and that’s your budget, that’s your gun. If you’re an investor, it’s not the right maker.

Well said Rookhawk, respects

 

[RR 314]

I don’t feel AHR are investment grade guns. They are functional and attractive. They do not hold their value, the gun surely cost $6500-$8000 to make and the seller wants half of that. Will it depreciate more with use? Not much. You don’t get a lot of gun for ~$4000.

Personal opinion: if you want a nice looking 9.3 and that’s your budget, that’s your gun. If you’re an investor, it’s not the right maker.

The chambering certainly limits the market on this rifle. I have a lot of AHRs and have bought most on the secondary market and love them. I don’t buy guns for investment, but certainly don’t buy them to depreciate either. This one is priced right, and if it is the chambering you want and LOP is acceptable, by all means purchase it.

 

[CoElkHunter]

That’s good information to know. Sounds like the seller is asking around the same price that he may have paid including the upgrade back then. Makes me think.

I have it written down somewhere, but AHR was getting $1600 for the upgrades minus the English walnut stock. So, it might have been another $1600 for the stock. What a bargain in today's inflationary world!

 

[RR 314]

I have it written down somewhere, but AHR was getting $1600 for the upgrades minus the English walnut stock. So, it might have been another $1600 for the stock. What a bargain in today's inflationary world!

The crazy thing is, as referenced above, I think the stock alone would be in the 4-5K range for any comparable stock today.

 

[CoElkHunter]

The chambering certainly limits the market on this rifle. I have a lot of AHRs and have bought most on the secondary market and love them. I don’t buy guns for investment, but certainly don’t buy them to depreciate either. This one is priced right, and if it is the chambering you want and LOP is acceptable, by all means purchase it.

The three CZ 550s I purchased used and one new between 2018-2020, have almost doubled in price since then only because they're not manufactured any longer. I'm personally not happy about that! I REALLY feel for the guys that want to buy an entry level big bore rifle at a reasonable price just like I did and now have to spend a lot more of their hard earned money to get one. What was a BIG expense for me with my limited firearms budget is now a much greater expense for them. Maybe they say screw it and take up golf?

 

[CoElkHunter]

The crazy thing is, as referenced above, I think the stock alone would be in the 4-5K range for any comparable stock today.

Absolutely!