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Gotcha. I wondered if something like that may be the case.Based on what I see, George's patent expired in 2015 so I guess Bailey is making his own based on George's design.
Gotcha. I wondered if something like that may be the case.Based on what I see, George's patent expired in 2015 so I guess Bailey is making his own based on George's design.
Yes, George's patent expired. Bradshaw didn't exactly copy his patent but made his own modifications to what George designed. I haven't held a Hoenig rotary action yet, but the one Bradshaw built was a work of art and amazingly light- around 6 pounds if I remember correctly.I guess Bailey Bradshaw’s rotary action is his own design then? I didn’t know if his was a copy of George Hoenig’s or what was going on
George no longer makes doubles I hear, so having a new offering isn't bad.Based on what I see, George's patent expired in 2015 so I guess Bailey is making his own based on George's design.
Yes, George's patent expired. Bradshaw didn't exactly copy his patent but made his own modifications to what George designed. I haven't held a Hoenig rotary action yet, but the one Bradshaw built was a work of art and amazingly light- around 6 pounds if I remember correctly.
I think Mr. Hoenig made very few rifles, definitely more shotguns IIRC. Maybe twenty something rifles (I think there’s a video on YouTube where he says how many he made. Bradshaw’s rising block rifles look great too. Conventional American DRs don’t really do it for me but I really like his because it’s his own design.George no longer makes doubles I hear, so having a new offering isn't bad.
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I have a soft spot for M70’s (with a Rigby thrown In for good measure!) The Second rifle from the top is one of the finest 7x57’s I have seen. The engraving is by one of the British masters.
However, as much as I appreciate these guns, I have to agree with Kevin and Red Leg, a fine falling block single shot is perhaps the most elegant form of rifle ever created.
I think Mr. Hoenig made very few rifles, definitely more shotguns IIRC. Maybe twenty something rifles (I think there’s a video on YouTube where he says how many he made. Bradshaw’s rising block rifles look great too. Conventional American DRs don’t really do it for me but I really like his because it’s his own design.
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Are we talking all doubles? A 0.17 double would be a dainty little thing.
Beautiful! I wonder what it weighs?Yes, all rotary doubles.
And I'll be damned - here is #38 that I mentioned above - one of the 17 HMRs. I saw this rifle in pieces on the bench. Have a picture of it as a matter of fact ;-)
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Great info . I think I would take my chances with #13 as well!I wrote a long article on George many years ago and spent the day with him. He is an amazing guy - an absolute perfectionist. At that time he was building up to #38 - fun fact, he did not build a #13 because he figured no one would want it! I ended my article saying when it came to a owning a Hoenig rifle and old #13 I'd take my chances ;-)
When i was there he was building two .17 HMRs, a .410, a 30-40 Krag, and a 9.3 x 74R. One thing I learned was that he built them in batches of usually 5 a year. He built them piece by piece, in other words not all one at a time but all receivers at once, all trigger guards, all extractors, etc. Once he was finished making extractors, let's say, he wouldn't think about them them again until almost a year later. There were stacks of hand drawings that he explained were the little changes that he has made based on what he learned from building the last batch. Suffice it to say that the last ones he built had all the improvements/tweaks he sorted out since the original patent.
I think what makes a Hoeing rifle special is not just the design itself, but the man who made it. Although he would really deny it, D'Arcy Echols reminds me a lot of George. I have spent quite a bit of time with him and known him a long while now. Last time I was in the shop he went over piece by piece his new LX-1 action. It is amazing. these guys are cut from a whole different cloth.
Peter Hofer had one (maybe two) with him at DSCAre we talking all doubles? A 0.17 double would be a dainty little thing.
Both good lookers, the bolts are identicalMy choice would be between two rifles I already own: a .505 Gibbs on a Granite Mountain double square bridge action, built by Lon Paul with receiver sight and scope mount by J P Smithson and a .416 Rigby built by Dennis Erhardt on an original Oberndorf square bridge magnum Mauser action.
Fortunately, I don't have to make that choice.
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Not neccesarilly, I propose the Mannlicher Schoenauer models 1903, 1905, 1908 and 1910.Best looking is one thing best reliability and practical effectiveness is quite the other.....