"Stolen Valor" - in the hunting field/industry

It's not just PH's and outfitter who is quilty of "Stolen Valor" - in the hunting field/industry

I once had a Swedish client who came for his frist trip over told me he studied every book on hunting there is and watched all the videos he could find and joined every hunting forum.
You could not tell him a thing he was a walking wikipedia.

First day out we had a chance at a good Impala ram standing next to a ewe sticks went up told him shoot the ram on the left as there was a few other young ones in the herd. The shot went off the ewe went one direction the ram the other. We heard a proper hit report.

Went over and the tracker shows me blood going in opposit direction the ram went, a few yards further there is the ewe stone dead. I asked the hunter why did he shoot the ewe? He told me I told him to shoot the ram on the left ?????

So novice error we paid for the ewe and a few days later same hunter spotted a big ram down one of the tracks. Stalked in real close about 30 meters from the ram I setup the stick told him to shoot the ram which was obvlious to us grazing in full view. After a while with him not shooting I then asked him what is wrong?

He asked me is that a ram? With that I lifted the rifle out of the sticks closed the sticks and walked back to the truck. I lost my cool and just left him there looking at the trophy ram bounding away unharmed.

That same year 2008 or the previous year we had a Danish client boasting about starting up Rigby of London. This was just around the California Rigby and Lodon of Rigby fiasco back 2010-11. A few years later heard rumours the conman ran into the law and got sent to jail for other deals as well.

Peter Als Nerving (aka Peterdk) was his name took some time to dig that up, below is two photos of him. I heard there is a quite a few hunters who send him hefty depsotits for the new Rigby Guns which obvioulsy never realized.

He was also instrumental in telling us he will act as an agent and send over all his Rigby Clientele. So he hunted at discounted rates got taxidemry done but never collected or paid for them we also got conned. He desperately wanted to shoot something with his no name double and we got close enough to this old blesbuck ewe before dark.
Then he was lucky enough to harvest this beaut of a Serval at last light not with his double.
I think he also hunted a wildebeest and a nice impala ram and a warthog sow if I recall
Holy Shit Man, you guided him, a lot of guys would have liked it if you had guided him to a Mamba !

He almost got me with a Double Rifle scam but I was lucky I had no money lol

Also scammed Horse people I hear ?

Proper prick him !

Nice Serval what a waste on him & well done by you !
 
“ I once met an honest fisherman…”.

Two of the best lies ever told in one sentence.
 
Holy Shit Man, you guided him, a lot of guys would have liked it if you had guided him to a Mamba !

He almost got me with a Double Rifle scam but I was lucky I had no money lol

Also scammed Horse people I hear ?

Proper prick him !

Nice Serval what a waste on him & well done by you !

He got first 7,5 years

Then in other court 8 years due to him and his associates work with converted starter pistols and blank guns etc to sell to criminals and biker gangs . 2 years the verdict .
 
If a bullet hits a bone or breaks into the abdomen 90% will die. Paretenitus will set in on an abdominal wound and the infection will kill the animal. If a bone is hit and bone fragments will shatter through out the hit area, infection normally gangrene sets in and kills the animal.
I came home one day and saw a doe whitetail lying by the pond next to my house. I could tell something was wrong, instead of running she laid her head down and tried to hide. I went inside got a rifle came out hoping she would be gone, she was not and so I shot her. Before I ever got close to her I could smell the rot. She had been hit about 6 inches above her left rear hoof by a rifle shot. She was so infected she had just given up. I thought about trying to salvage the meat but she smelled so bad there was no use. I feel she would’ve been dead within hours.
Flesh wounds can be recovered from as long as they don’t get infected. I actually killed a 10pt once that I had hit 3 days before, a flesh wound to the neck and pure luck to run into the same buck 3 days later within 100yds of where I shot him the first time.
The raghorn elk in the story above is a contradiction. When we unloaded him in the garage I noticed one toe on right front leg was worn right down. Skinning it I discovered his shoulder had been shattered, probably the year before, and completely healed up, albeit deformed with jagged bone protrusions that must have been very painful. He was perhaps the fattest elk I've ever shot and tough enough to keep a small harem. Unfortunately the damn neighbor dog stole the bones before I could do an autopsy. Here in town we had a three legged monster whitetail buck wandering around for years. Wild animals are tough. I have seen grizzlies in Alaska severely damaged fighting and still survive. One old bruin who returned to the falls every year was named "Snaggletooth" because his jaw had been broken and healed up grotesquely crooked. A broken jaw and he survived! I saw another bear in the first salmon run during July with a gaping hole in his side that actually exposed his lung! Surely he wouldn't survive! Bears disappeared in August and then reappear in September for the second run. And yep, there he was hanging on just fine, getting fat as a pig. I'm sure he survived the winter. Amazing.
 
Nothing is 100% , seen leg less ducks and geese, 3 legged deer and others but the odds are definitely against them. Especially in the humid south.


I don’t think I will comment on the shooting into a clump of trees to scare elk out
 
Geez, any given night there are seven or eight good bucks and nine or 10 big does under the feeder in my front yard… I can’t even bring myself to shoot one of the nice bucks, even though it would be good for the herd, for the simple fact that somebody may ask me the story of the hunt! Not to mention I think my dog would be mad! Lol
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Geez, any given night there are seven or eight good bucks and nine or 10 big does under the feeder in my front yard… I can’t even bring myself to shoot one of the nice bucks, even though it would be good for the herd, for the simple fact that somebody may ask me the story of the hunt! Not to mention I think my dog would be mad! Lol View attachment 666645
Or become gun shy. :E Frightened:
 
@CBeck , you must have some good neighbors! I can’t even count the # of times I’ve watched bucks jump our fence then hear a shot 2 minutes later in the 28 years we have lived in our house.
 
@CBeck , you must have some good neighbors! I can’t even count the # of times I’ve watched bucks jump our fence then hear a shot 2 minutes later in the 28 years we have lived in our house.
lol. I don’t really have neighbors…..lucky that way I guess. Would love to buy the property next door even though it’s not used or lived on.
 
My last trip to Kyrg I was hunting Marco Polo sheep. I had lost a day due to airline screw ups. Then the hunt didn't go the way anyone wanted it to. On the second to the last day I missed a 500 yd shot. My guide was so disgusted he picked my rifle and shot 2 times at the running rams! The last day his father, the guy with many MP in the record book with him as guide went with us.
He wanted me to shoot a small ram that we found. He told me I could take the cape with me and he and the boys would find a bigger ram. They would kill him and send me the horns. I told him no. He told me that he had done this multiple times in the past. I told him either I killed it or I would go home without one.
Bruce
 
I'm sure the most honorable Mr. Capstick would never outright lie or even "stretch the truth".

And I'm going to continue to believe it until I'm in the grave.





Otherwise, I would have probably never stepped on African soil!
 
I've worked in the fishing guiding business for over 30 years.


You would be surprised how many clients we have had who say "I've fished all over the world, blah, blah, blah", only to have absolutely no aptitude, once they start trying to fish.



Probably the same with PH's...
 
I'm sure the most honorable Mr. Capstick would never outright lie or even "stretch the truth".

And I'm going to continue to believe it until I'm in the grave.





Otherwise, I would have probably never stepped on African soil!
I know he definitely peaked my interest and curiosity about Africa!
 
Look up Rowdy Dowdy Photo shop bear- back when social media was getting big he made a lot of false hunting claims, AS WELL as being a Navy SEAL so real Stolen Valor,. Lied his way to be fake famous and get on some TV shows etc.
Was funny times when he was outed
 
Clearly the biggest case of stolen valor in North America is the biggest trophy of all, the Chadwick Ram, a stone sheep with +50" horns. Lee Chadwick, the famous outdoors writer, shot the sheep with, of all things, a 404 Jeffery at about two hundred yards. He hit it low in the brisket (such a surprise!) and because he was sucking too much wind at age 62 to run after it, his outfitter, Roy Hargreaves, ran ahead, caught up to the ram and finished the job. But is it called the Hargreaves Ram? Nope. :D. At least Chadwick owned it when he wrote the story. I'll give him credit for that.
 
You were very gracious giving the old man what was rightly your buck.
When I was in the 8th grade I had an old Interarms .270, it had an awful trigger. You would start the squeeze on Monday and it finally go off on Tuesday. I was hunting with a friends father and what I remember as a giant buck walked out I shot it and evidently creased the abdomen and most of his guts spilled out trailing behind him as he ran off.
He ran about a half of mile and made it to the neighbors property, unbeknownst to me the too property owners were in a feud. A few minutes later we heard a couple of shots, we called the land owner and he said he had killed the biggest 9pt he had ever seen. He said it was dragging its guts around but we couldn’t have it . This guy was a big celebrity in the deer hunting world in the 70’s, this was devastating to a kid in the 8th grade.
This guy actually opened a museum later and that bucks full body mount had a prominent place in this museum. I’m 61 now and still gets my blood boiling!
We usto hunt with a dog hunting club
The rules they went by the last person to shoot the deer was the rightful shooter
We used dogs so the deer would have been found eventually
It was good to put them down
Well there was a man that got in the club
Every time he found a deer that was hit all ready be shot and they became his deer as per the rules. Ok fine
Well I shot my if I would have killed it out right first deer I think I was 7 maybe i rember the gun a won 37 single 20 with a 2 3/4 chamber using #3 buck I think on the load
Well what we were told he drove up and the dogs were walking around not after the deer
He goes to a drain ditch and shoots down in the ditch gw shot the deer
Could have been alive
Any way it being seen actually got people to paying attention
It took a few years but he was Cought shooting a dead deer
Being a kid I was not around when anything was going on
But as they were getting ready to kick him out of the club he admitted to most of his deer were dead when he shot them
It wasn’t about the meat the club shared meat any one wanted meat every kill was shared if people want it

So it was the antlers or bragging for killing the. Bucks
Or was it jusfacation for him spending the money to be in the club
I don’t know
But I will say it worked out well
I missed that first deer
I as a adult liked to carry kids hunting
I hunted most of this season with my nephew I never bothered to load my rifle
I injoy whatching the kids get deer way more than me shooting another one

We had a big for fl one around this year my bro ask if it comes out are you going to let him shot it
Told him he better I didn’t bother taking my rifle out of the case
 

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