SOUTH AFRICA: KoringKoppie Hunting Safaris *Warning* Stay Away

Two more positive reviews that are first message on the boards
And I'll bet every one that says they're going back with them are getting a discount or free animals.
Once again to the first time posters, I was born at night but .........
Having said all that, in today's world, AI can create just about fake anything including hunt reports on here.
 
And I'll bet every one that says they're going back with them are getting a discount or free animals.
Once again to the first time posters, I was born at night but .........
Having said all that, in today's world, AI can create just about fake anything including hunt reports on here.
I wouldn’t accuse anyone of that. They had a different set of expectations and it was also likely their first African hunt with nothing to compare against so they think it was great. Quite a few people are happy with their first African hunt because laundry is done every day and they harvested animals at a good price compared to North American hunts. There is a lot better out there if someone knows to look.
 
One think I keep noticing on all the former clients positive posts is they don't address or say if they handed their tips directly to staff? They also don't say if they were told Jac finishes all wounded game. One said that was never said because he didn't have any wounded game. But if that is your policy shouldn't you be telling everyone that before then hunt? Not after the fact?
 
I wouldn’t accuse anyone of that. They had a different set of expectations and it was also likely their first African hunt with nothing to compare against so they think it was great. Quite a few people are happy with their first African hunt because laundry is done every day and they harvested animals at a good price compared to North American hunts. There is a lot better out there if someone knows to look.

What is really disingenuous is the Outfitter, who is obviously ghosting this thread and orchestrating these posts. He should just man up and address the accusations
 
What is really disingenuous is the Outfitter, who is obviously ghosting this thread and orchestrating these posts. He should just man up and address the accusations
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Tell your side of the story if you don't agree with what the OP stated.

As I said before, I feel the OP made some mistakes and honestly should have stood firm on some things instead of being pressured into a situation that was not acceptable (less than fair chase shooting of an animal for example), but there is a whole lot that was attributed to the outfitter that I find completely unacceptable.

Like NOBODY should go to Africa and have he and/or his observer put in fear for their physical safety...BY THE OUTFITTER...ever. Not over any kind of disagreement.
 
One think I keep noticing on all the former clients positive posts is they don't address or say if they handed their tips directly to staff? They also don't say if they were told Jac finishes all wounded game. One said that was never said because he didn't have any wounded game. But if that is your policy shouldn't you be telling everyone that before then hunt? Not after the fact?
One thing about the tips, in Mozambique we would hand the staff their tips to the staff in an envelope and then the staff would take a little for pocket money but give the majority to the resident PH to hold for them until the end of the year. Truthfully money did them no good as we were at least 30 km from any store.
I’ve never seen this in South Africa, the outfitter has always had us hand out the tips in front of everyone but if you felt someone treated you above and beyond they wanted you to be discreet and find them alone to give any extra gift as they call it.
 
What is really disingenuous is the Outfitter, who is obviously ghosting this thread and orchestrating these posts. He should just man up and address the accusations
Agreed. I still would not go so far to accuse past clients lying or getting discounts to tell their stories. They just don’t know better. Since Brickburn changed the title it’s now on first page of google search results. Not addressing the issue gives more credibility to the OP in my mind.
 
Agreed. I still would not go so far to accuse past clients lying or getting discounts to tell their stories. They just don’t know better. Since Brickburn changed the title it’s now on first page of google search results. Not addressing the issue gives more credibility to the OP in my mind.

I agree but want to add,

I am not sure those posts are from past clients.
Notice there are no grammatical errors?
I make boo boos often in AH if I don't edit in MS Word twice!
I have even seen @Red Leg make an occasional error and he a far better writer than me :)
I think those posts of past clients were written or at least revised and edited by a common source.

Where is the outfitter? Even if the truth is somewhere in the middle, some bad stuff happened on that safari.
 
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I found this post from an old thread asking about the outfitter in question, by an a person I have lots of respect for, to be prophetic....


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I agree but want to add,

I am not sure those posts are from past clients.
Notice there are no grammatical errors?
I make boo boos often in AH if I don't edit in MS Word twice!
I have even seen @Red Leg make an occasional error and he a far better writer than me :)
I think those posts of past clients were written or at least revised and edited by a common source.

Where is the outfitter? Even if the truth is somewhere in the middle, some bad stuff happened on that safari.
I gave the positive reviews so little credibility I failed to notice the similar formatting of several. If that’s an effort to not directly address the issues in original post that’s a really foolish move by outfitter.
 
I agree but want to add,

I am not sure those posts are from past clients.
Notice there are no grammatical errors?
I make boo boos often in AH if I don't edit in MS Word twice!
I have even seen @Red Leg make an occasional error and he a far better writer than me :)
I think those posts of past clients were written or at least revised and edited by a common source.

Where is the outfitter? Even if the truth is somewhere in the middle, some bad stuff happened on that safari.
One of the first-day-wonders wrote a report that was pretty poor grammar. I wondered if Engish was not his first language. The last one could have been written by Ernest Hemingway.

I'm sure by now the moderator is checking the IP addresses to ensure the puff pieces are not coming from the same keyboard.
 
One of the first-day-wonders wrote a report that was pretty poor grammar. I wondered if Engish was not his first language. The last one could have been written by Ernest Hemingway.

I'm sure by now the moderator is checking the IP addresses to ensure the puff pieces are not coming from the same keyboard.

That’s easy enough to avoid by using multiple VPN’s.
 
I’m sceptical that the outfitters/ owners are ghosting this website and it’s viewership
There are like 4-7 other sites that post safari reviews, mainly bow / crossbow
Maybe the accused is a regular contributor on one of those? Or maybe busy conducting business
Those sites are not my cup of tea but still exist, I am not a bow hunter or CBL hunting fan , but nonetheless they still exist and might have covered this disaster
I don’t know?
I don’t know who these new members are or where or how they decided to post a rebuttal, but the OP and his girlfriend where newbie’s before this thread popped into existence, so their credibility has nullified after this, it’s still a he/ she said vs a they said
With a double dog pile on depending on which side of road people decide to hurl their stones
 
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Tell your side of the story if you don't agree with what the OP stated.

As I said before, I feel the OP made some mistakes and honestly should have stood firm on some things instead of being pressured into a situation that was not acceptable (less than fair chase shooting of an animal for example), but there is a whole lot that was attributed to the outfitter that I find completely unacceptable.

Like NOBODY should go to Africa and have he and/or his observer put in fear for their physical safety...BY THE OUTFITTER...ever. Not over any kind of disagreement.
It may also be possible the outfitter isn’t posting or responding until after the meeting with PHASA.

We’ve seen it in the past when there are disputes where one party doesn’t say anything or answer questions until it’s resolved. Wasn’t that the MO following the Omay Bid Tender with Dalton & York? I don’t believe Kuche ever joined the forum following his bad reviews to address them. I’ve seen a fair number of bad reviews where an outfitter/PH is accused of lying, cheating, etc and they never respond. If a lawyer has been involved by at least one party they may have been advised of this. Not saying the OP contacted a lawyer but given this is the Outfitters livelihood and others are claiming a formal case from PHASA has been opened he may have thought it prudent on that side of the Atlantic
 
That’s easy enough to avoid by using multiple VPN’s.
Except there is a record of all your IP addresses and they are not really random. Nothing more suspicious than IP's bouncing all over the place.

The three newbies are not doing anything suspect from my desk view.
 
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It may also be possible the outfitter isn’t posting or responding until after the meeting with PHASA.

We’ve seen it in the past when there are disputes where one party doesn’t say anything or answer questions until it’s resolved. Wasn’t that the MO following the Omay Bid Tender with Dalton & York? I don’t believe Kuche ever joined the forum following his bad reviews to address them. I’ve seen a fair number of bad reviews where an outfitter/PH is accused of lying, cheating, etc and they never respond. If a lawyer has been involved by at least one party they may have been advised of this. Not saying the OP contacted a lawyer but given this is the Outfitters livelihood and others are claiming a formal case from PHASA has been opened he may have thought it prudent on that side of the Atlantic
Kuche has many happy and return clients. Most, not all of the bashing here is by members who strongly disagree with their business model as they perceive it and had no direct experience with Kuche. There are multiple examples on Africa Hunting where some one posts about a great hunt they had with Kuche and it turns into a bash fest from members who have never hunted with them.
 
I wanted to take a moment to share some feedback regarding our experience at Koringkoppie Safaris in 2023. Although I can’t comment on the specifics of other hunts, I felt it was important to speak on behalf of myself and my family.

Our journey began when we met Jacques at the Minnesota Pheasant Fest in the winter of 2022. At that time, I had no plans to book an African hunt. As an avid pheasant hunter in Minnesota and South Dakota, as well as a white-tail hunter in Wisconsin and an elk hunter in Montana, a trip to Africa was not on my radar. However, after visiting the Koringkoppie booth, discussing the available hunts, and learning about the various species on the property, we decided to explore the possibility. My wife had shown interest in visiting Africa as a family and after several emails with Jacques, we booked a hunt for myself and my two 13-year-old sons. My wife and 10-year-old daughter joined us as spectators for sightseeing and photos.

I hunted with a bow, while my sons used a rifle we brought from the U.S. We were successful in taking the animals we had planned: the boys each shot an impala and a warthog with the rifle, and I shot a kudu, gemsbuck, and an impala.

The accommodations were excellent, and we were consistently impressed by the hospitality from Jacques, his family, and all the staff. Our days typically began around 6:00 am with Jacques preparing coffee and a light breakfast. We enjoyed a variety of cereals, fruits, and yogurt each morning. This was sufficient for us, as we would then head out for early morning trail walks and animal stalking until around 9:00-9:30 am. We would return to camp for a hearty breakfast prepared by Jacque’s father, which typically included eggs and different sausages that varied each day.

After breakfast, I would head out to hunt, often with Jacques and one of my sons in different blinds around the property. We had sack lunches provided, but after the second day, we opted to forego them as we were full from breakfast. The late afternoons were spent stalking animals, with Jacques leading the way, and the evenings were a wonderful mix of successful hunts and excellent dinners. Jacques prepared different meats cooked over the fire, and sides prepared and brought by his mother. The meals were perfectly done, and I especially enjoyed sitting by the fire with a local beer while stargazing.

Jacques and his staff were wonderful with my wife and daughter. Whenever we took an animal, they were informed and brought out to see the animals and be part of the photos. My wife, being a photographer, appreciated the effort Jacques made to arrange drives around the property for her, my daughter, and our son that wasn’t hunting. There were endless opportunities to see wildlife.

I did notice the crew on the property cutting wood, but it didn’t bother us, and we didn’t interact with them. Having grown up in western Wisconsin, where cutting firewood is a common activity, the sound of a chainsaw in the distance was familiar and unobtrusive.

We also had the pleasure of meeting Yolanda, Jacques’s wife, and seeing her work as a taxidermist. She is very professional and took her work seriously. For us, having everything managed in one place was ideal and greatly reduced the hassle of dealing with taxidermy separately.

Overall, our experience at Koringkoppie Safaris was memorable and thoroughly enjoyable. We have booked another hunt for the summer of 2025, and my daughter who is now 12 and has taken hunter safety in the U.S., is looking forward to being part of the hunt.

Except there is a record of all your IP addresses and they are not really random. Nothing more suspicious than IP's bouncing all over the place.

The three newbies are not doing anything suspect from my desk view.
You and you can see Sheila and the Deyoungs all over KoringKoppies Facebook. Commenting with public profiles.

They are real clients haha - It’s just obvious they were told to come on here.
 
Can't really fault a person wanting to hunt various areas in any country, which also requires hunting with different outfitters

As for buying or bidding on auction/donated hunts....why not?....outfitters auction/donate hunts to draw in clients and garner business.

Is it your intent/advocate that outfitters should not offer such hunts?
That organizations such as SCI, DSC, etc. that benefit from such outfitters' auction/donation hunts should not solicit outfitters for such auctions/donations?

IMPO.....It's on the outfitter to provide the winning client a good hunt and quality services. If the outfitter doesn't feel they need to provide a quality hunt nor quality services to an auction/donated hunt recipient then the outfitter shouldn't have offered such auction/donation hunt.
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Rhetorical question to those who have purchased auction/donated hunts.

In reality the priced paid for an auction/donated hunt....how much money was saved comparing the auction/donated hunt versus having straight out purchased a package deal from the outfitter?

Why I don't bid on auction or donated hunts/trips. For me personally, I find it less expensive to book a package hunt vs a somewhat inflated cost
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Personally I choose to hunt with different outfitters based on their respective location which differs from previous outfitters' locations I have hunted with. Simply because I want to see more of the country, and not all outfitters provide 100% of the animals I would like to hunt or see.

Since I'm in country, if possible, I also choose to take the opportunity to visit, hunt, renew the friendships I have with previous outfitters/PHs, PHs, and others, I have met and/or hunted with.
375 going too far on the “auction hunt is bad” direction. I would say most of the big names on this board have done an auctioned hunt.

Not doing his research, definitely on the OP. But auctioned hunts can be a great way to hunt Africa
 
No PH/Owner I've ever hunted with would have classified that waterbuck as a trophy, but a cull at a deep discount. I killed a similar specimen on my third hunt, for a hundred dollar cull price. He first asked me, told me the price, I agreed and killed it. I Kept the hide, had a skull mount for S&G. The OP's PH should have told him it was a cull and NOT a trophy. That's 100% the PH's responsibility..

An extra 2¢, These donation hunts should be done away with. The ones that go south give Africa hunting, especially RSA, a bad name. I'm surprised the FTC doesn't step in and ban them, since most are quasi bait and switch affairs.
Most? That’s a bit of a stretch. I’ve taken 3 hunting and or fishing auctions and all have been top notch? What are you batting on yours?

Because of the volume you will definitely see more negative reviews. Just how that works.

Edit: didn’t mean the batting comment snarky. Was a serious question on if you’ve had bad auction experience. Sorry how it probably came across.
 
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