Politics

[PHOENIX PHIL]

Very good explanation.
However like I said whatever system you live under, electoral college or pure majority system, when only %50-60 of the people vote it's not very healthy and it does not reflect the real will of the people.
Even worse in local elections...

I won't argue that it's sad that we have such a low voter participation rate. Especially so when so many in this world wish they could have a choice in their government. Why that is I can only chock up to people being spoiled since they don't know what it's like to live in a totalitarian system and/or for whatever reason they think their vote doesn't matter.

Couldn't say for sure, but relying on statistics greatly in what I do, I don't have to have a 100% sample size to establish trends. So I'm not sure that if we had 100% voter participation that the result would be much if any different with a 50-60% rate. It's still a large sample size.

 

[sestoppelman]

Very good explanation.
However like I said whatever system you live under, electoral college or pure majority system, when only %50-60 of the people vote it's not very healthy and it does not reflect the real will of the people.
Even worse in local elections...

But it does reflect the real will of the people, those who want to vote. And for those who cant be bothered, they have to live with the results of the elections that those who did vote decided, for them.

 

[Red Leg]

But it does reflect the real will of the people, those who want to vote. And for those who cant be bothered, they have to live with the results of the elections that those who did vote decided, for them.

I won't argue that it's sad that we have such a low voter participation rate. Especially so when so many in this world wish they could have a choice in their government. Why that is I can only chock up to people being spoiled since they don't know what it's like to live in a totalitarian system and/or for whatever reason they think their vote doesn't matter.

Couldn't say for sure, but relying on statistics greatly in what I do, I don't have to have a 100% sample size to establish trends. So I'm not sure that if we had 100% voter participation that the result would be much if any different with a 50-60% rate. It's still a large sample size.

I think it also reflects a generally satisfied population. The relatively high turn out the last two presidential cycles is fairly unique and tends to reflect the fairly high level of political tension currently in the country rather than voters reflecting on their civic duty.

And yes, thank God we have a republic rather than a democracy (which perhaps one in a dozen people in this country actually understand and virtually no "citizen of the world" from a parliamentary system) . Our system took much from the Achaean League and relatively little from Athens. Perhaps its greatest quality is the prevention of the tyranny of geographic or class majorities.

 

[Doubleplay]

But it does reflect the real will of the people, those who want to vote. And for those who cant be bothered, they have to live with the results of the elections that those who did vote decided, for them.

I think people are either happy or don't believe anything will change in the big picture regardless who the President is.
A great example of that is Switzerland a very wealthy and stable country where voting %'s are even lower than us.

 

[cpr0312]

 

[cpr0312]

 

[sgt_zim]

Very good explanation.
However like I said whatever system you live under, electoral college or pure majority system, when only %50-60 of the people vote it's not very healthy and it does not reflect the real will of the people.
Even worse in local elections...

I'm quite happy voter turnout isn't any higher than it is. A great many of the number who do vote are woefully uninformed. and shouldn't be voting in the first place.

 

[BSO Dave]

Perhaps its greatest quality is the prevention of the tyranny of geographic or class majorities.

Well, in theory yes...

However, I don't think the founders ever envisioned that it would be possible for one party to become so radicalized that they would be willing to use that majority control to disregard the Constitution... As I'm sure you are well aware, if the democrats should ever gain control of the House, Senate, and the Oval Office, they will stack the Courts, abolish the filibuster & the electoral college, grant statehood to D.C. & PR, all of which will do irreparable harm to our current Republic that was designed to prevent these very things from happening... For the last 3.5 years they have already changed the future voting demographics by deliberately allowing in millions of illegals ensuring this control into perpetuity that nothing short of actual revolution will reverse...

If you don't think geographic and class tyranny already exists, try being a conservative in a deep blue state...

 

[spike.t]

Vomit inducing.....lost for words.....

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