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Just wait until Biden hears about the coup. He's gonna be really upset.......FWB
Did the baby do anything wrong?I'm pretty much pro life, but would be happy with some sort of compromise, not that's that's my point.
What if the father is 30 and the girl is 14?
Or the woman is 30 and the boy is 15??I'm pretty much pro life, but would be happy with some sort of compromise, not that's that's my point.
What if the father is 30 and the girl is 14?
I'm pretty much pro life, but would be happy with some sort of compromise, not that's that's my point.
What if the father is 30 and the girl is 14?
Re: Abortion
A bunch of guys (and no women) discussing women's rights or legal lack thereof seems kind of wrong to me. Not that I don't have my own opinion, I do.
But in this case I don't think men should even get a vote. Something that a broad spectrum of women, and only women, should decide, IMO. Though that's unlikely to ever happen.
So I guess I have two opinions.
Interesting that whenever abortion laws are discussed they are conflated with laws against murder, rape, kidnapping Et. al. by anti-abortion folks.Ummmmm... Irony alert.
Do you consider laws against murder, kidnapping, or rape as social engineering?
That goes back to the question of when the fetus is considered “a baby”? Above, I linked several cases of non-viable fetuses where the pregnant women would be forced by the State to deliver the “baby” so parents could bury it. Is that also justice for all involved?Did the baby do anything wrong?
Interesting how people on the opposite side can so easily accept ending a child’s life for the sake of convenienceInteresting that whenever abortion laws are discussed they are conflated with laws against murder, rape, kidnapping Et. al. by anti-abortion folks.
Completely different for most rational people that are using logic instead of religion to define the crime.
Forest for the trees my friendThat goes back to the question of when the fetus is considered “a baby”? Above, I linked several cases of non-viable fetuses where the pregnant women would be forced by the State to deliver the “baby” so parents could bury it. Is that also justice for all involved?
Also, life begins at conception. If abortion is taken off the table you have conception and then voila nine months later you have a child born. In an overwhelming majority of casesThat goes back to the question of when the fetus is considered “a baby”? Above, I linked several cases of non-viable fetuses where the pregnant women would be forced by the State to deliver the “baby” so parents could bury it. Is that also justice for all involved?
Oi, that's YOUR party there, bubba.Truly remarkable seeing how quickly the antisemites on the left have started attacking Governor Josh Shapiro just in case he is under consideration for VP.
So, frozen embryos are people by your definition?Also, life begins at conception...
The problem the pro-abortion crowd has is there is no definition for when life begins, other than at conception, that isn't arbitrary. Life is a continuum from conception up through dotage. "Arbitrary" and "just" are antonyms, as a matter of prose and as a matter of law.Goes back to the original question of when is it her child or just a biological organism? For the anti-abortion crowd it seems to be when the egg is fertilized for the pro-choice crowd it seems to be after some X weeks of pregnancy. Hence, the big divide.
Kamala was also lukewarm on the aid to Israel. If she wins, expect the USA to carry Hamas' water.Truly remarkable seeing how quickly the antisemites on the left have started attacking Governor Josh Shapiro just in case he is under consideration for VP.
So, when does a fetus become a viable life form? According to Democrats, they can stay a dependent (therefore incapable of sustaining their own life) until age 26. So can you look at your 24 year old drug addled video-game beta tester and euthanize them as "non-viable"?That goes back to the question of when the fetus is considered “a baby”? Above, I linked several cases of non-viable fetuses where the pregnant women would be forced by the State to deliver the “baby” so parents could bury it. Is that also justice for all involved?
I do not agree with or believe in IVF or surrogacy but would consider any embryo resulting from that practice to be a human life worthy of protecting although the practice should be ended post haste. In an ideal worldSo, frozen embryos are people by your definition?
I do not agree with or believe in IVF or surrogacy but would consider any embryo resulting from that practice to be a human life worthy of protecting although the practice should be ended post haste.