Politics

[freefall]

Jill Biden should beg God for forgiveness.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1813702006688886865

You think she believes in God?

 

[John Wasmuth]

You think she believes in God?

I’d bet her gods name starts with an s……..

 

[fourfive8]

Gotta love it. One sleazy crook, Schiff, calling on another sleazy crook, Biden, to step down.

 

[Ridge Runner]

Since when does the FBI do crime scene clean up? They trying to put Service Pro out of business?

They want to make sure there isn't any trace evidence for someone to accidentally find as they work on their msm responses to cover up and play the "blame game as to the who, what, why, the president wasn't better protected and the shooter was allowed to fire shots.

 

[John Wasmuth]

They want to make sure there isn't any trace evidence for someone to accidentally find as they work on their msm responses to cover up and play the "blame game as to the who, what, why, the president wasn't better protected and the shooter was allowed to fire shots.

Yea out of all the crime scenes I’ve ever handled I’ve never seen them do that before. Odd, yet everything about this is odd…..

 

[BJH65]

In my experience (several times a 15-6 investigating officer for some fairly serious events), small and large catastrophes generally only occur due to a series of missteps, any one of which had it not occurred would likely have prevented the resulting event. With large public fiascos like this, it is far easier to believe it was the result of some nefarious conspiracy.

I am forced to agree, my own experience bears this out. As the incident commander of many critical incidents too numerous to mention, but running the gamut from officers killed in the line of duty, prisoner escapes, inmate riots, high speed pursuits involving major collisions resulting in major injury and/or death, criminal conduct by employees, improper use of deadly force and numerous other catastrophic events, there was always one commonality revealed in my after-action report:

Department policies and procedures were not followed. Some violations were minor in nature and almost always there was a pattern of multiple violations which lead to dire consequences. Ultimately, the fault lies in lack of proper supervision from the top down.

I cannot comment on any purported incompetence that appeared to be on display by the secret service without knowing the details. I can comment on my personal experience regarding officers on my department exhibiting gross negligence, incompetence and major officer safety violations brought to my attention which of course were immediately dealt with following department policy and procedure: Personal improvement programs, documented counselings, re training, and disciplinary action.

What I always found with these officers, sometimes tenured with many years on the job, was a lack of supervision by previous supervisors and managers. It is much easier to do nothing or transfer the problem officer to another division to become someone else’s problem. With our agency, once past probation an officer had civil service protection and damn near had to commit a felony to get terminated.

To hold someone accountable, a lot of paperwork, time and effort was involved. Our agency is no different than many others, sometimes a tree must be killed! So be it, that is the job of a supervisor, but it is easier for some supervisors to do nothing, except in some professions like law enforcement and the military, this can get someone killed. Some supervisors I suspect may be intimidated by the race, gender, age or sexual orientation or personal connections of the employee and perhaps the resulting fear of a lawsuit. A moral failure nonetheless.

Since I was neither very smart or sophisticated, my entire career was based on the “KISS” principle and just “doing the right thing.” It served me well enough.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Interesting video discussing the assassination attempt. The first 8 minutes is rehashing details that are pretty much known. However, the new info is the counter sniper team we've all seen photos of, might not have been the team that took out the sniper. There was another counter sniper team and they might have had a better angle on the shooter. (around 16- 18 minutes in the video) Time will tell.

 

[Pheroze]

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7265268

 

[HookMeUpII]

Every now and again it is good to be reminded what a reprehensible, small minded, prepubescent dilettante Matt Gaetz truly is.

Matt Gaetz and Kevin McCarthy's feud erupts at Republican convention

"I think at the end of the day, he probably shouldn’t be on the streets,” the former House speaker said about Gaetz, his former House colleague.

www.nbcnews.com

Gaetz is literally the picture of the swamp, from the GOP side. There are (unconfirmed, but credible) accounts of late night parties, drug use, prostitutes that some of which looked underage, and worse. I fully believe the DOJ dropped the sex trafficking investigation on him only because he managed to cover his tracks well.

 

[John Wasmuth]

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Really good 3D graphics showing obstructed views and shooting angles.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/trump-rally-shooting-maps-secret-service-analysis/

 

[Altitude sickness]

After hearing the head of the secret service explain the roof pitch was too steep.

I now understand why “Delta” the Unit. Was pulled off Osama at Tora Bora by Pentagon leaders. As they had him contained.

 

[Brent in Az]

 

[Red Leg]

After hearing the head of the secret service explain the roof pitch was too steep.

I now understand why “Delta” the Unit. Was pulled off Osama at Tora Bora by Pentagon leaders. As they had him contained. View attachment 620317

I was in the building when all that went down. To say the Army was frustrated does not begin to describe the situation. Not only was OD-Delta positioned for direct action, but elements of the 75th Ranger Regiment were ready to be inserted to block the exit routes into Pakistan.

Rumsfeld, with no protest from Franks, made the call to let the Afghanis handle it after precision strikes by the air force on the caves. He also called off the Ranger insertion. To remind, this was when he was still fully embracing the shock and awe crowd who would decide all future conflict with smart munitions.

Had we killed Bin Laden then, I suspect we would have left Afghanistan soon thereafter.

One of the prices a republic pays for civilian control over the military.

 

[Red Leg]

View attachment 620341

That is correct, their view was blocked. The team on the other roof took him out.

 

[Red Leg]

Axios has been first and likely the most accurate on this reporting. I would assume the over and under on Biden dropping out of the campaign would be this weekend.

Should be interesting to see how they select their candidate.

https://www.axios.com/2024/07/18/president-biden-drop-out-election-democrats

 

[Altitude sickness]

I was in the building when all that went down. To say the Army was frustrated does not begin to describe the situation. Not only was OD-Delta positioned for direct action, but elements of the 75th Ranger Regiment were ready to be inserted to block the exit routes into Pakistan.

Rumsfeld, with no protest from Franks, made the call to let the Afghanis handle it after precision strikes by the air force on the caves. He also called off the Ranger insertion. To remind, this was when he was still fully embracing the shock and awe crowd who would decide all future conflict with smart munitions.

Had we killed Bin Laden then, I suspect we would have left Afghanistan soon thereafter.

One of the prices a republic pays for civilian control over the military.

I know one of the members of that small team supported by the rangers on Tora Bora. He says they had Obama contained and were told that exact message you referenced. There were some political discussions with the Afghan government. Then told to stand down.

 

[Altitude sickness]

I’m going to alter my prediction.

Sleepy Joe will resign because of physical health, not mental health, leaving Kamala the first African-American female president.
until the convention

that will become such a hullabaloo, and all the focus will switch to that and off of Trump.

the Democrats poll numbers will come back and the November race will be 50% trump 49% Harris

 

[Hunt anything]

I’m going to alter my prediction.

Sleepy Joe will resign because of physical health, not mental health, leaving Kamala the first African-American female president.
until the convention

that will become such a hullabaloo, and all the focus will switch to that and off of Trump.

the Democrats poll numbers will come back and the November race will be 50% trump 49% Harris

If this is true it should mean a substantial electoral college victory for Trump. I would think. With Harris piling up votes on the west coast and some of the east coast that even a half dead Democrat would win no matter what.and Trump carrying most everything else.

 

[Ridge Runner]

@Red Leg, ,@Altitude sickness,

Reminds of the '79 (?)(IIRC), Delta Force's inaugural hostage rescue mission fiasco and SOB POS Carter's abort order minutes after him giving the operational green light with boots and equipment on the ground.