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I hate to admit it, but if what you say actually comes to light then the 2024 election would be tough for the republicans to take back.
AZ news just showed Pence and Trump campaigning for opposing candidates.
I can't see how the GOP have good results if they put forth candidates with a lot of baggage. It isn't about whether they can do a good job for america. When Trump won the primaries there were several running that I believe could have done a good job as president. However it came to be, they were not put forth in the election.
Out of the events since 2020 it is really hard to say what voters in general will have in their minds as a primary issue in selecting who they cast their vote for. If it is abortion that will probably go one direction. If it is not handling criminals IE justice department/LE or the border???
If some have faired well through the last two years they may feel the current administration has done a great job. Status quo is fine for them.
If the election results are cooked books it is likely that would be traced via the money trail.
 
I remember it being 3 cents a bottle--and typewriter keyboards having. cents sign
Seems like middle 60's to 1970 in Missouri the small bottles were, or went up to, 5 cents and quart bottles were 10 or 15 cents. As kids we never let one get past us.
When my parents and younger siblings made a trip to Ohio to visit an aunt and uncle they found a porch filled with pop bottles. They declined to be seen returning or exchanging when buying more soda pop. They happily allowed my siblings to cash them in. Memory thinks they cashed something around $100 worth but at 5 cents that would take 2000 bottles so doubt it was that much. $20 would be forty bottles. Anyway, for my siblings it was a major score and a story told many times while others wished they had been there for the score. :)
 
But Thacker Pass lithium mine (pit) is not near LosAngeles, San Francisco, New York or Washington DC; so those alleged people pushing the issue do not care about it- as long as whatever issue they push keeps the illiterati voting for them. Sooner or later it isn't going to end well.
Is it possible lithium ore could be discovered under Washington DC and massive excavations started immediately?
 
Of course both sides use propaganda. If I see a clip of one more Ukrainian soldier rescuing a cat or dog ..... well anyway, it is usually pretty obvious.

You are correct, to a degree, with respect to HIMARS. Though I believe you are drawing the wrong conclusion. The Multiple Launch Rocket System is forty-year-old technology. HIMARS is merely the same launcher mounted on a truck. Hardly what I would call cutting edge by our standards. The GLMRS rockets are a bit newer but still dating to the late 90's. The thing that Russia might soberly consider is the effect this multi-decade old technology, in very limited quantities, is having on the battlefield. Yes, I know Russia claims to have destroyed another two or three almost daily. You can believe this or not, but I have carefully looked at every clip released by your MOD claiming a HIMARS kill, and I have yet to see a photo or video clip of an actual system in the photo or video - much less one being struck. I would simply note somehow, those ammunition depots keep detonating along with the odd command post and surface to air missile site.

The Ukrainian Army - not NATO and not the US has fought the Russian Army to a standstill. That Army has inflicted grievous losses to Russia's best formations and destroyed a large portion of Russia's modernized armor. Battle Damage Assessments are now beginning to include T-62 tanks of all things! Yes, Russia too has killed many Ukrainians - soldiers and civilians. But that nation's willingness to willingly bear those costs and sacrifices should be a message to Russia as well.

I will simply note once more, that after five months of war, Russia is unable to gain air superiority, it is unable to dominate the Black Sea, and its army was forced to withdraw from Kiev and the northern axes of advance after suffering devastating casualties (particularly the VDV and logistics troops). It is being fought to a standstill in the East and the South. Russia's long range strike missile inventory has had no meaningful effect on Ukraine's ability to wage war and much of it now expended. Politically, rather than causing a crisis in NATO, the alliance will now add Finland and Sweden. Finally, economically, the hard work of two generations of Russia's best and brightest is being destroyed. Many of those skilled engineers and entrepreneurs are leaving the country. Unintended consequences can be every bit as telling as actual objectives in conducting a special military operation. These are truths that the US has learned to its great cost too often over the last fifty years.

The Ukrainian assessments of casualties inflicted are obviously inflated. However, the latest US/UK conservative assessment is that during these five months, the Russian Army and its auxiliaries such as Wagner have suffered 60,000 casualties with 15,000 killed in action. If accurate, these, at least by our standards, are staggering casualty rates. Perhaps because so few of these young men are recruited from the areas around St. Petersburg and Moscow these losses remain largely invisible to most of the Russian population that matters politically?

One other cautionary point. Imagine if the opponent was instead just a single US Corps built around a couple of divisions, an Armored Cavalry Regiment, and the equivalent of four brigades of artillery containing a total of 126 of these launchers and vast supplies of both GMLRS and ATACMS rockets. I would also add the additional 144 155mm self-propelled guns would have large inventories of GPS guided munitions. All of those platforms have the ability to instantly self-lay, fire and immediately move. Those two divisions would also include two aviation brigades with Apaches. In turn, all of that would be operating under an umbrella of true generation V fighters and attack aircraft. Each of the armor brigades in those divisions (seven in all counting the ACR) would field around 120 M1 Abrams tanks with target acquisition and lethal range engagement far beyond anything but perhaps the T-14 - should it actually do what its builders claim it will. And Russia has how many of those? I would urge you to check with some of your informed armor colleagues to see how confident they are at cracking an Abrams's armor with whatever modernized T-72's and T-80's are left. Also, that Corps, each of those divisions and every brigade and battalion would be led by men with combat experience and knowledge of the art of combined operations.

All of that is why Sergey Lavrov's blustering about moving against NATO and Poland is far more amusing than worrying to the West's military leadership.

Finally, Russia will take a generation, likely more, to atone for the barbarism it has exposed in its use of missile and artillery fires against civilians and civilian infrastructure. The behavior of Russia's soldiers in occupied areas is reminiscent of the Red Army's behavior as it overran the Eastern half of Germany in '45. Yes, Ukraine has exploited these incidents for propaganda purposes, but the Russian military has provided them far too much material to exploit. It is also true that the US caused collateral damage in its various campaigns over the last two decades. But those incidents were noteworthy because of their relative rarity. For Russia, on the other hand, it seems to be at the heart of the Russian way of war.

You obviously have full access to the Western internet. Assuming that your appearances here are not merely to peddle the latest Russian talking points and propaganda, I would urge you to avail yourself to that access. You are obviously an intelligent, educated observer. Study everything you find on the war with a critical eye - both sides. I do. The conclusions above are based upon that open source analysis. Of course I have biases. But the conclusions I am drawing are the results of what I see - not what I believe. What I see is an army in trouble.
I would somewhat disagree with the bolded sentence. The Iraq Body Count project represents the most comprehensive and "neutral" source I could find on civilian deaths in Iraq.

This is their official website: https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human


Now I know Wikipedia is not an academically accepted source but the wiki entry on the Iraq Body Count project does a pretty good job of summarizing the key findings and numbers of this project. It also provides a pretty good discussion on the strength and limitations of this project. As well as criticisms and counter-criticisms... As many of these findings are scattered around the website of this project- wiki just summarizes all pretty good- hence why i posted it. Now granted these professors/academics who are running this project are probably left leaning and are obviously anti-war. However they have been criticized by the left for under estimating Iraqi causalities and being pro-American. Simultaneously they have been criticized by the right for being anti-American and inflating Iraqi civilian casualties/ This leads me to believe that their findings are probably balanced and relatively objective. They are in my opinion not trying to over estimate or underestimate civilian casualties.

Which brings me to my next point. Some of these numbers are rather stark and grim. Look in particular at what has been the leading cause of death among Iraqi children. Aerial bombing. Which side was doing the lion's share of aerial bombardment in Iraq ? That's probably thousands of dead kids as a result of coalition airstrikes and tens of thousands of civilian deaths that can directly be attributed to American and coalition forces. These numbers show, at least in my opinion, that collateral damage in America's wars in the past decades are not limited or rare. Rather I would say the issue is that Western mainstream media, especially English speaking ones, do not really report all that much on civilian causalities caused by American or allied/NATO forces. You don't exactly see vigils/gatherings of strollers for the thousands of Iraqi children that have been killed by coalition forces do you ?

Now granted these are just open sources that I have access to, there maybe better/more accurate sources on the civilian death toll of this conflict that i am unaware of or cannot access.

Now Iraq is a pretty strong example because this was a totally pointless war. I honestly laugh when i hear some people claim that Saddam was a threat to the US. This idea of the Iraq War being a preventative war is absurd. Saddam's Iraq was at most a gadfly to America. America spent vast sums of money, lives and caused untold destruction to Iraq for no reason at all really. Much like what Russia is doing in Ukraine at the moment. Although Russia viewing NATO and its eastward expansion as a threat is at least somewhat logical/understandable. America viewing Saddam's Iraq as a viable threat is/was comedy...
 
Seems like middle 60's to 1970 in Missouri the small bottles were, or went up to, 5 cents and quart bottles were 10 or 15 cents. As kids we never let one get past us.
When my parents and younger siblings made a trip to Ohio to visit an aunt and uncle they found a porch filled with pop bottles. They declined to be seen returning or exchanging when buying more soda pop. They happily allowed my siblings to cash them in. Memory thinks they cashed something around $100 worth but at 5 cents that would take 2000 bottles so doubt it was that much. $20 would be forty bottles. Anyway, for my siblings it was a major score and a story told many times while others wished they had been there for the score. :)

My brother and I each collected bottles at 2¢ per bottle to earn $1.00 each (50 bottles each). That was the most we ever collected before cashing them in. A dollar was worth a lot back then. Had we known and waited a day or two we would have considered ourselves rich, as the return fee went to 5¢ equaling several sodas, candy bars, packages of dry roasted peanuts, jaw breakers, bubble gum and ice cream.
 
My generation of the 60’s…graduating in 65…draft or college…early 60 bottle return was 2 cents..ice cream bars were a nickel and a cherry coke at the drugstore was a nickel…post war baby boomers…absolutely the best time to grow up…children of the best generation ever.
Sorry, but you missed it by 10 years. The Fabulous 50s, my generation, was the best. Everything started going to hell in the 60s and has been on a downward spiral ever since..
 
Which leads to the next question: What will the Russian leaderships response to at minimum will be an embarrassing stalemate and at worst the possibility of a military defeat?
Total defeat and unconditional withdrawal in perpetuity.
 

This video needs a music soundtrack. Queen's, Another One Bites the Dust seems appropriate.
I bet some genius(?) who designed those eyesores never thought to install lightning rods to ground them.
 
Iraq is a pretty strong example because this was a totally pointless war. I honestly laugh . America viewing Saddam's Iraq as a viable threat is/was comedy...
Get ready to laugh BOZO. Your conclusions are based on being able to revise history using information gained completely in hindsight. At the time, Saddam was viewed by several countries' intelligence agencies as a threat- he had invaded Kuwait and he still had his army and munitions intact- so he was Perceived as a threat.

So go ahead with you superior time-frame of information and criticize something done in real time. The rest of us are also laughing, but it's on BOZOs.
 
Sorry, but you missed it by 10 years. The Fabulous 50s, my generation, was the best. Everything started going to hell in the 60s and has been on a downward spiral ever since..
It seems most generations probably have had something they could say that about.
The post WW II years probably seemed the best because of all the growth but that never accounts for those damaged by the war.
The cell phone generations won't really know what went on in their time until they can't use a cell phone anymore. :) I guess their fake news will live on though.
 
The problem is: Would Putin and his staff accept such a defeat, or would their pride cause them to make matters really bad.
Isn't that what Putin meant when he threatened to push the nuclear button if anybody interfered?
 
Isn't that what Putin meant when he threatened to push the nuclear button if anybody interfered?
Yes, Putin threatened if others interfered. Others have interfered and he hasn't pushed it, yet. The question is: if he is facing defeat and possibly being removed from power, what will he do?
 
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This isn't the first one. Check out YouTube there's a variety of wind turbines going up in flames and destroyed by high winds.
@Just Gina and I saw one that had a blade ripped off and cowling around the generator destroyed as well as some surrounding ones damaged. Sure wouldn't want to be in the path of a loose blade flying around!
 
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Total defeat and unconditional withdrawal in perpetuity.
I'm one who believes 100% what the Holy Bible has to say about "end times". There is no mention of the USA during that time, but there are references to a Russia/China/Iran alliance that marches towards Israel to attempt to destroy it. Moral to the story, Russia will gain power and allegiance until God wipes them off the map.
 
My brother and I each collected bottles at 2¢ per bottle to earn $1.00 each (50 bottles each). That was the most we ever collected before cashing them in. A dollar was worth a lot back then. Had we known and waited a day or two we would have considered ourselves rich, as the return fee went to 5¢ equaling several sodas, candy bars, packages of dry roasted peanuts, jaw breakers, bubble gum and ice cream.
Yeah, but if I (maybe "we") still had the baseball cards and original comic books we bought with that money, we could pay for a safari. My mother "cleaned up" and threw away a fortune!
 

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