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[VertigoBE]

Im sure they ran the serial number on the rifle (and probably the vehicle info) to find the family address THEN used fingerprints and the DNA for confirmation. This thing is crazy enough without homemade conspiracies

Or likely the corpse had a wallet on it with some id, that then was double confirmed.
Indeed no need to look for conspiracies.

 

[Scott CWO]

Possibly. Was Trump wearing a kevlar vest? I would think so.
From the aerial photo, it looks like Trump would be standing sideways to the shooter where a headshot would be the only lethal target?

Kevlar doesn’t stop a .308!!

 

[PARA45]

Or likely the corpse had a wallet on it with some id, that then was double confirmed.
Indeed no need to look for conspiracies.

According to the news, the shooter unfortunately did not have any ID on him.

 

[Scott CWO]

I made pretty much the same statement to the wife last night. Maybe we will see a diagram of where the other victims were located. Most people shoot high on follow up shots with an AR, but from some of the statements made by some in the crowd in the field not the bleachers said they were close to victims. Makes me think he pulled the trigger a few times after he was basically dead. On the other hand he looks like he died from a head shot.

Looks like a body shot to me with lung blood coming out the mouth and nose.

 

[PARA45]

Possibly. Was Trump wearing a kevlar vest? I would think so.
From the aerial photo, it looks like Trump would be standing sideways to the shooter where a headshot would be the only lethal target?

Looking at the video when the SS pulled him up, and his shirt was unbuttoned, it seems like he did not have one.

 

[mdwest]

Looking at the afterwards video, the three female SS looked like the mouseketeers/Keystone cops/Three Stooges. Knowing Trump's affinity for the fair sex, I wonder if he picked them to be on his detail..

Better possibility is the current USSS director is a huge DEI advocate that has on several occasions specifically stated that the USSS needs more women.. and has an actual plan in place to have 30% of all USSS agents be female within a few years…

USSS… exactly where we want to hire people because they are a certain color or have boobs as a priority… rather than selecting people that actually bring things to the job that are needed… (sarcasm)…

 

[John Wasmuth]

They run it through a database to see if he’s been arrested before and fingerprints as well.

According to sources, I suppose Leo’s of some sort, he was not known to Leo’s prior to this, how, if that’s the case, how does the data base contain a sample of his DNA? Aside from that it used to take 20 days from time of delivery for a DNA test result to come back. I know things have changed a bit but the DNA test still takes a bit more than the blink of an eye.

 

[Scott CWO]

According to sources, I suppose Leo’s of some sort, he was not known to Leo’s prior to this, how, if that’s the case, how does the data base contain a sample of his DNA? Aside from that it used to take 20 days from time of delivery for a DNA test result to come back. I know things have changed a bit but the DNA test still takes a bit more than the blink of an eye.

Ever hear of 23andMe? Lots of people check their DNA genealogy and the companies run searches for LE frequently now. The CA Golden State Killer was found this way.

 

[John Wasmuth]

Ever hear of 23andMe? Lots of people check their DNA genealogy and the companies run searches for LE frequently now. The CA Golden State Killer was found this way.

Ahhhh, makes sense. But I’m sure it takes more than a little while to run the course and then a search of the data base? Or is that micro minutes now?

 

[John Wasmuth]

True or not? But I wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[Tex .416]

True or not? But I wouldn’t be surprised.
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Fake. There is zero chance of any LEO involved making any public statement at this point in time. The sniper that used deadly force will have a lawyer telling him not to talk publicly. Also note the time stamp, Sunday July 14 at 1600 hours is 4 pm EDT, which is over one hour in the future. The wrong time stamp is indicia of being generated in a foreign country and the propaganda unit miscalculated the local time.

 

[YancyW]

True or not? But I wouldn’t be surprised.
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Come on man, you can't possibly believe this shit.

 

[Brent in Az]

True or not? But I wouldn’t be surprised.
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I would believe it, if he admitted to it in a media interview video. He would no doubt lose his job, because telling the truth gets people fired these days

 

[John Wasmuth]

Fake. There is zero chance of any LEO involved making any public statement at this point in time. The sniper that used deadly force will have a lawyer telling him not to talk publicly. Also note the time stamp, Sunday July 14 at 1600 hours is 4 pm EDT, which is over one hour in the future. The wrong time stamp is indicia of being generated in a foreign country and the propaganda unit miscalculated the local time.

That’s the way I looked at it. But nothing surprises me any more.

 

[John Wasmuth]

Come on man, you can't possibly believe this shit.

Not in the slightest.

 

[Wheels]

I have been around and know four law enforcement swat team snipers. Two of them were college athletes and all of them were high school athletes. They are all in top physical shape and work out with weights regularly. They are built like Dave @mdwest and a couple of them are almost as tall as Dave.

These snipers body shape and arms don't bear any resemblance to the snipers I know. Are these guys an anomaly or is it the snipers I know. Some of you know much more about this than me, thanks.

 

[Red Leg]

For those of you who do not periodically peruse the left wing kook sites, the prevailing theory is Trump staged this.

About as loony tunes as the Secret Service did it.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Assuming this is an accurate photo and locations, it's hard to believe that law enforcement didn't have someone on the higher roof top to the left of the suspected gunman's location.

 

[mdwest]

I have been around and know four law enforcement swat team snipers. Two of them were college athletes and all of them were high school athletes. They are all in top physical shape and work out with weights regularly. They are built like Dave @mdwest and a couple of them are almost as tall as Dave.

These snipers body shape and arms don't bear any resemblance to the snipers I know. Are these guys an anomaly or is it the snipers I know. Some of you know much more about this than me, thanks.

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Sorta depends..

You’ll find most competent snipers are very fit.. a low heart rate is super helpful, and being able to do some of the tasks required takes a certain amount of strength and endurance (it’s not all sitting on roof tops with rifles mounted in tripods… on one particular job back in the day for example I low crawled several hundred meters dragging about 30lbs of gear through a mud filled drainage ditch to get to a position to provide overwatch for a team… and had to get there pretty quickly, while remaining unobserved, and still have enough gas left in the tank to do the job for the next couple of hours waiting for the team to approach on a raid)…

But some of the best shooters I worked with over the years were pretty average sized guys… one in particular was a little on the small size even.. just built like a 10 penny nail wrapped in wire… strong as a bear.. and incredibly fit overall…

In my “fit” days I was pushing about 240lbs at 6’4”… which was honestly a little oversized… I looked more like a breacher (my original job on a tactical team) than anything else… (the guy that swings the 30lb ram and/or carries the 40lb quickie saw, etc etc)…

There are always exceptions.. but a significant number of the guys that move toward tactical teams their in law enforcement careers are often former military, and an even larger percentage are definitely former athletes of some sort… you kinda have to enjoy the physicality of the job, and be accustomed to working through injuries, etc… or you won’t last long on any tactical team worth being on…

 

[Brent in Az]

I know there was some serious lag time between the shooter being spotted by people in the crowd, and the the time it took to take him out.

The deep state lawfare war is failing. The assassination attempt failed.

What's next on the agenda.?

Another assassination attempt.?

Trump's plane mysteriously crashing?

Car bomb?

Poison? (Putin's favorite)

Or.. ...??????