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I've recently read some interesting op-ed articles on why the Ukraine is not a NATO member. Something I am curious about.
At the 2008 NATO summit, Bush lobbied for Georgia and the Ukraine to be admitted.
Many European NATO countries balked at the idea.
4 months later Russia went after Georgia.
I think it all comes down to these European NATO countries being afraid of the Russian thug mentality, and not wanting to provoke them.
One of the articles stated that Russia tries to create spheres of influence.
 
Unlike the man himself, at least Trump's Supreme Court took the right position on this.

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A summit is about to take place in Switzerland to discuss the achievement of peace in Ukraine and how to manage the eventual aftermath of the war. Ukraine is a participant and Russia is not. Putin has given a speech on the eve of it listing his demands to begin any negotiation. A summary is attached below.

Russia doesn't fully control any of these provinces except Crimea and its hold there is becoming weaker by the day, The city of Kherson is fully under Ukraine's control.
  1. Ukraine must declare a full withdrawal of its troops from the Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions and begin actual troop withdrawals. This condition is essential for any ceasefire and the start of negotiations. The focus is on territories within the administrative boundaries of these regions, not just those currently occupied by Russian forces.
  2. Ukraine must officially announce its abandonment of plans to join NATO.
  3. Ukraine must recognize Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia regions as territories of the Russian Federation.
  4. All of these agreements must be formalized through international treaties.
  5. Western sanctions against Russia must be lifted.
Since the last week in April, Russia has lost an average of 1100 troops a day. Ukraine is claiming a casualty exchange rate of 8 to 1. British intelligence recently estimated that exchange rate was at least 6 to 1. The US estimates Russian losses during the failed Kharkiv offensive alone numbered as many as 30,000 KIA.

No one but the appeasement at any cost crowd and defacto allies of Putin will treat this seriously.

Tell Vlad to pound sand!
 
Things can get heated when discussing politics but at the end of the day, we all share a camaraderie of hunting and African hunting. People of varying socioeconomic backgrounds and varying careers all come together to share experiences and help one another on AH. I feel that every member brings something to the table and there is an Incredible amount of experience in this group, I really think this a great! It has been immensely helpful to me in planning a couple of upcoming African hunts.

If I’ve offended anyone discussing politics, I apologize. I have no personal animosity towards anybody on this forum except for the occasional scam artists on the classifieds section! I certainly have strong opinions like many others but not at the exclusion of being disrespectful and if I have been it’s certainly not my intent. As a newer member, perhaps I should tread more lightly, but then that’s not my way, lol.

Anyways, after a pretty demanding career, and now that I’m retired, my focus is on hunting, a renewed interest in African hunting and varying types of fine guns! It’s a cruel twist of fate for many of us, we acquire more wealth and time to do these hunts as our bodies age and go downhill, so my other focus is to maintain good health and fitness so I can continue to enjoy these adventures with family, friends and new friends and I wish the same for fellow AH members!
 
Denied benefits because of the period they served? I do not understand what you are saying. If they have health issues as a result of service then they need to have those issues evaluated by the VA. There are Veteran Support Officers in every state whose job it is to help them through that process.

i am afraid Kipling’s work pretty accurately captures the attitude of far too many citizens of the western democracies toward their military.
It may take a while and you may have a fight on your hands, some things are harder to prove than others, but there are ombudsmen that can assist in getting it done.
 


i am afraid Kipling’s work pretty accurately captures the attitude of far too many citizens of the western democracies toward their military.
This reminded me of a very good friend of mine that I lost last year. inoperable brain tumor, he was gone within 6 months of diagnosis.

He spent 34 years in the Army, SOF etc., then as a DOD contractor. He gave the best years of his life to serve his country. Not many appreciate the sacrifices veterans make.
 
As the water hole dries up, the animals fight over it...that's what we are doing while discussing Ukrainian vs border control expenses. But we are ignoring the ocean next to the water hole! And that ocean is the unchallenged behemoth of ENTITLEMENTS, which total more than military and all other expenditures combined. That is where most of the pork is involved and perhaps corruption as well. But if it was provided with the most austere administration, entitlements are still so nose bleed high that getting them under control is the only real key to fiscal balance and sanity. They are unfortunately untouchable by any politician due to optics and the potential political damage done to electability. Congress is so resistant to deal with it, as well as police themselves--for example in regards to the legality of their own insider trading privileges, that some have even suggested that the only hope of reigning it all in is a Constitutional Convention by the states to provide amendments in the areas of balanced budget, term limits, etc.
It is futile to fight over the scraps when the t-bones are on the grill of entitlements. With that under control, military and border funding is inconsequential. JMO on where the pressure needs to be brought to bear.
 
Tell Vlad to pound sand!

Or perhaps something explosive! That guy is a blight on humanity. He seems to have no concern with the human toll of his invasion.
 
to serve is to daily doubt yourself, your skills, you’re right to lead

To daily deal with your own personal injuries in a drive to stay fit enough

Fear of failure stalks sleep and the dawn that follows

It is the greatest fear for us all
 
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This is why tyrants have strict anti gun laws that prevent the people from rising up and saying enough is enough.

Every single one has done this, and that is why they stay in power for so long.
 
As the water hole dries up, the animals fight over it...that's what we are doing while discussing Ukrainian vs border control expenses. But we are ignoring the ocean next to the water hole! And that ocean is the unchallenged behemoth of ENTITLEMENTS, which total more than military and all other expenditures combined. That is where most of the pork is involved and perhaps corruption as well. But if it was provided with the most austere administration, entitlements are still so nose bleed high that getting them under control is the only real key to fiscal balance and sanity. They are unfortunately untouchable by any politician due to optics and the potential political damage done to electability. Congress is so resistant to deal with it, as well as police themselves--for example in regards to the legality of their own insider trading privileges, that some have even suggested that the only hope of reigning it all in is a Constitutional Convention by the states to provide amendments in the areas of balanced budget, term limits, etc.
It is futile to fight over the scraps when the t-bones are on the grill of entitlements. With that under control, military and border funding is inconsequential. JMO on where the pressure needs to be brought to bear.
Well said sir!.... I remember my 70+ year old personal finance professor in college stating the same thing; when social security was implemented there were 33 people paying into it for every 1 collecting benefits.

Now that ratio is 3:1, and any mention of correcting the systems imbalance will bring war cries from the AARP crowd that will surely spell death to the political career of anyone who speaks of it.
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Likewise the latest (2024-2033) farm bill was $1.51 Trillion - $1.223 Trillion of that is "S.N.A.P." or supplemental nutritional assistance program.... AKA food stamps - And no one is going to touch that political hot potato either!
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Our military is being run by 30 year veterans of a military that has not won a war in 40 years.
Our foreign policy is being crafted by "professionals" who have been in retreat since Ronald Regan was president.
Our commander in chief is a corruptocrat who can't control his own bowels.
But we are urged by these people not to vote for the man who MIGHT change things because he has bad manners.
We are SO fooked.

Well for the sake of perspective and this discussion, I can think of two outright US “victories” since WW 2. Granada and of course the 1st Gulf War which lasted all of about 43 days. Never mind that in both cases the relative power ratio between adversaries could be judged to be between 100:1 and possibly greater than 1000:1. We won’t talk about the ties, losses or to-be-determined, objective-less outcomes, some of which are continuing to this day. Oh well, all just inconvenient truths I guess.
 
Well for the sake of perspective and this discussion, I can think of two outright US “victories” since WW 2. Granada and of course the 1st Gulf War which lasted all of about 43 days. Never mind that in both cases the relative power ratio between adversaries could be judged to be between 100:1 and possibly greater than 1000:1. We won’t talk about the ties, losses or to-be-determined, objective-less outcomes, some of which are continuing to this day. Oh well, all just inconvenient truths I guess.

Our military is being run by 30 year veterans of a military that has not won a war in 40 years.
Our foreign policy is being crafted by "professionals" who have been in retreat since Ronald Regan was president.
Our commander in chief is a corruptocrat who can't control his own bowels.
But we are urged by these people not to vote for the man who MIGHT change things because he has bad manners.
We are SO fooked.

That is just not correct.

While your 1000 to 1 ratio might have some meaning with respect to Granada (though with regard to deployed forces not even there), there is no comparison between that small island and the armed forces of Iraq at the time of the first Gulf War.

At the time of Desert Storm, the Iraqi regular army numbered 400,000 troops organized into 6 Corps composed of 30 divisions. 7 were regular army armored and mechanized divisions, 15 were regular motorized infantry divisions, and eight were mechanized and armored Republican Guard Divisions. The mechanized brigades of the regular divisions were equipped with T-54 tanks and a mix of Soviet APCs. The Republican Guard, which represented Saddam Hussein's best trained and best equipped forces numbered some 70,000. Those formations were equipped with the latest Soviet T-72 MBTs and BMP IFVs. Their supporting artillery was modern and composed of Soviet, French, and South African models. Nearly all of their tube artillery outranged comparable US designs. Totals were 4200 tanks, 2800 APCs and IFVs, and 3100 artillery pieces. At the time of the start of the air campaign, Iraq operated approximately 300 aircraft, and a massive air defense network.

Coalition forces, particularly with respect to air power, did outnumber Iraqi forces. However, there was a far more important discriminator. That was the training, readiness, and professionalism of coalition forces - particularly the 450 thousand US soldiers, airmen, marines and sailors deployed, who had trained for just such a contingency. Fortunately, those soldiers also had a clear mission statement and desired endstate. With respect to airpower, there was indeed a 6 to 1 coalition advantage in aircraft. However, there too, the training, preparedness, and professionalism of American aircrew was the real discriminator.

All of that was made possible because of strategic contingency planning and materiel acquisitions begun decades before.

I'll offer one example. The seeping envelopment of the Iraqi Army carried out by Army's VII and XVIII Airborne Corps created operational surprise. That maneuver across trackless desert was made possible by a very few new GPS satellites and a few dozen receivers. They existed because war planning years earlier for a Middle East contingency called for better navigation technology in the open desert than a compass and a map. Similar contingency driven requirements touch every acquisition of every service.

Perhaps you know of a better way you could share with us.

Finally, the American military has accomplished all its objectives given it by civilian authority in every conflict of which I am aware since the First World War. That would include even Vietnam. Achieving political objectives has proven far more difficult regardless of administration or party. That group might be a better focus for your ire.
 
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