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An interesting read.

One statement that really stood out, is that if the Ukrainians want to take back Russian occupied territory, it would essentially take the collapse of the Russian army in order to achieve that.

Considering that Russia's population is 5-6 times greater then the Ukraine's, who's military is going to collapse first.?
Based on a war of attrition for the Ukrainians, Russia is simply going to wear down the resolve of the Ukraine, in the hopes of an eventual surrender.
A war that could go on for a couple more years. More or less.

What would Putin do if long range missiles were donated to the Ukraine so that they could fire on Moscow, or any of Russia's military installations?
Would Putin carry out his threat's of using tactical Nukes.? They have claimed to have moved some into Belarus?

 
The question is what would we (US & NATO) do, if that happens?
 
An interesting read.

One statement that really stood out, is that if the Ukrainians want to take back Russian occupied territory, it would essentially take the collapse of the Russian army in order to achieve that.

Considering that Russia's population is 5-6 times greater then the Ukraine's, who's military is going to collapse first.?
Based on a war of attrition for the Ukrainians, Russia is simply going to wear down the resolve of the Ukraine, in the hopes of an eventual surrender.
A war that could go on for a couple more years. More or less.

What would Putin do if long range missiles were donated to the Ukraine so that they could fire on Moscow, or any of Russia's military installations?
Would Putin carry out his threat's of using tactical Nukes.? They have claimed to have moved some into Belarus?

I agree. CSIS is a well respected think tank, and Dr. Cordesman is one of the finest minds mulling over US and Western strategic options. I am frankly surprised you posted it since it supports so firmly the need for an outcome in the West's favor.

He provided a well developed and thorough tour d'horizon of the conflict and provided a clarion call for a coherent national strategy. The key points that I took away are below. I agree whole heartedly, and is what I have been trying to communicate for a year and a half. The outcome of this war matters - a lot.

The outcome of this war will determine the security of vital American and partner national interests in all of Europe for years to come.

The outcome of the war in Ukraine may well have a more strategic impact than a war over Taiwan given the fact that the future status of Ukraine will have a critical impact on all states in Europe and the credibility of NATO and the United States, while Taiwan is relatively isolated in comparison.


Because it matters so much, it is why I have expressed such frustration on one hand with the Biden administration's incremental approach in helping Ukraine and on the other the Trump brigades' inability to comprehend the conflict's critical impact on our long term national security. 30 M1A2 tanks or 80 Bradley IFVs are immaterial to the outcome of this conflict. If HIMARS are so critical - they are - why have we only provided 18? Ukraine can win this war, but not through a long war of attrition.

I think his conclusion is exactly correct.

As for China, any American failure in dealing with Ukraine and in helping to rebuild an effect NATO will give China a major boost in strategic influence and make it even more reluctant to agree on any kind of “rules-based order.” It will undermine U.S. successes to date in creating anything approaching “integrated deterrence” and help China find bases and create new security relations in Asia and the rest of the world. If the United States falters in dealing with Ukraine, it will lose security and influence relative to two great powers by failing to pay the price of dealing with even one.

I wish both the neo-isolationist ostriches in my party with their heads buried in the sand and those who believe scoring political points against the democrats is more important than our national interests would read it. Thank you for posting.
 
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I have been reading more of these opinion articles to try an broaden my understanding of the long term ramifications of the war, as well as the U.S and global interests.

I am all for helping the people of the Ukraine, however, I have very deep concerns as to the inflationary side affects right here on the home front, as well as the current instability of this nation.
It feels as if we are fighting a war on two fronts, and as usual, the taxpayer is stuck in the crossfire.

We all complain about the staggering national debt, yet, we continue to throw billions of dollars at the Ukrainian war, as well as other countries. Certainly is the proverbial double edged political sword.

Since Biden and the Democrat's took over, my cost of living expenses have risen by approx 30%. For various reasons.
Those that are more well heeled can absorb the current inflation, and escalating crude oil prices, without blinking an eye. Many of us in middle America can't. Not everyone has a 6 figure salary.
If the United States can financially help the Ukraine without bankrupting the American middle class, by all means, send them the money, and do whatever it takes to put an end to it.
The Ukrainian people are suffering more then anyone. Courtesy of a land grabbing dictator, and a weak U.S president.
 
Ben Shapiro has been pretty wound up the last few days about the stupidity of Matt Gaetz, his followers and the Republican parties willingness to put the gun to their own head.

If anybody needs anything to listen to I find his show a good way to stay informed on most of the big topics of the day.



 
Ben Shapiro has been pretty wound up the last few days about the stupidity of Matt Gaetz, his followers and the Republican parties willingness to put the gun to their own head.

If anybody needs anything to listen to I find his show a good way to stay informed on most of the big topics of the day.



One of the smartest and dryly humorous commentators on our culture and politics out there.
 
Ben Shapiro has been pretty wound up the last few days about the stupidity of Matt Gaetz, his followers and the Republican parties willingness to put the gun to their own head.

If anybody needs anything to listen to I find his show a good way to stay informed on most of the big topics of the day.



Good listen. I really fear that the stupidity of a few members of the House is going to derail any chance that Republicans can make gains in 24. Why does it seem that over and over the Republican party will find away to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory? Sometimes it seem like the national party really doesn't want to win and when they do, they have absolutely no plan. It's depressing.
 
Well it’s been a busy few days on the politics thread!
 
Why does it seem that over and over the Republican party will find away to grasp defeat from the jaws of victory? .
Seems the party missed a chance to change its ways with the party elections, but they chose to go with Ms Romney for business as usual.
 
Are you sure? All the wine bottles look unopened and even the liquor bottles look mostly full. ;)
Probably because she has been in California mourning Feinstein.
 
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Yeah, we (US) tried the 'ol bar stool trick before we entered WW2 late and initially got our proverbial AS**S handed to us by the Japanese. If not for a few twists of fate and some good intelligence (Midway) we could have lost the Pacific Theatre, which could eventually have led to a Japanese invasion via the West Coast. If Hitler hadn't divided his forces by invading Russia and a successful invasion and occupation of Great Britain by the Nazis had occurred before we entered WW2, we and our Allies could have lost the European Theatre and the entire war. As history has shown us, ignoring (and thus enabling) dictators and tyrants never works no matter how far away they are, because karma has a way of bringing them right to our or Allies' doorsteps.
 
Read an article that the U.S is going to start underground testing in the Nevada desert,of the aging nuclear stockpile, without explosions.
Nuclear detonation testing was banned in 1992.
 

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