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This evening, the Ukrainians struck Pskov Airbase quite a ways from the Ukrainian border. It is the home of a Russian Air Force IL-76 Wing which is the equivalent of our C-17. They only have around a 120 of these critical heavy transport aircraft. Russian media is admitting four were "damaged". The huge areas of flames being posted by Russians in the area would indicate something rather more serious than damage.

They appear to be using an Australian developed cardboard drone which, depending on range desired, can carry around a five-pound payload. Because they are cardboard they essentially have no radar return making them invisible to air defense. Five pounds of C4 punching into the wing root of an expensive transport plane can produce rather spectacular results.



 
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Pskov Airbase quite a ways from the Ukrainian border.

They appear to be using an Australian developed cardboard drone they essentially have no radar return making them invisible to air defense.
1. Is Pskov inside Russia? If so, has there been any response regarding what some would call offensive action?
2. does the drone fly by GPS or visual? any target selection software on board?
 
1. Is Pskov inside Russia? If so, has there been any response regarding what some would call offensive action?
2. does the drone fly by GPS or visual? any target selection software on board?
1. Well inside Russia and one of several airbases inside Russia Ukraine has hit over the last year and particularly the last few months (of course, they are hitting downtown Moscow as well). Just a few days ago they took out two TU-22 Backfire strategic bombers inside Russia - perhaps using the same type of drone.

2. How they are doing targeting of these aircraft is a major point of curiosity. These targets are very deep for direct visual communications. GPS targeting with a 1000 lb warhead is one thing, but a 5 lb explosive has to be placed very precisely. There is some suspicion, that SOF teams, well inside the Russian Federation are picking up the final guidance. Those who know for sure are not offering an opinion.
 
Tonight they have also apparently struck one of Russia's largest microelectronics manufacturers in Bryansk, Russia. This was clearly a larger warhead. Lots of speculation about what sort of drone or missile this could have been.

One theory is that they are converting Soviet era SA 200 SAMs for surface attack.

 
2. How they are doing targeting of these aircraft is a major point of curiosity. These targets are very deep for direct visual communications. GPS targeting with a 1000 lb warhead is one thing, but a 5 lb explosive has to be placed very precisely. There is some suspicion, that SOF teams, well inside the Russian Federation are picking up the final guidance. Those who know for sure are not offering an opinion.

I'm thinking Colonel Hogan and his flashlight out in the Russian forest...... :)
 
. How they are doing targeting of these aircraft is a major point of curiosity. Those who know for sure are not offering an opinion.
would it be possible to steer/pilot the craft as the US drones are via various cameras transmitting back to a CPU/monitor or would such an arrangement add too much to the craft reducing its payload as well as it's invisibility?
 
would it be possible to steer/pilot the craft as the US drones are via various cameras transmitting back to a CPU/monitor or would such an arrangement add too much to the craft reducing its payload as well as it's invisibility?
Yes, but ours are networked through satellites or other UAVs. Line of site is the big challenge in doing deep strikes with these sorts of low cost options. I have no idea how they are doing it ..... yet.
 
Yes, but ours are networked through satellites or other UAVs. Line of site is the big challenge in doing deep strikes with these sorts of low cost options. I have no idea how they are doing it ..... yet.

If you have GPS coordinates on the targets, and a team in relatively close proximity that can fly it, I could see where these might get the job done. A bit expensive at $13K a piece, but that's far cheaper than a missile. And if you scroll down far enough, you'll see they claim GPS accuracy of +/- 2cm. And a payload of 6kg.

 
This evening, the Ukrainians struck Pskov Airbase quite a ways from the Ukrainian border. It is the home of a Russian Air Force IL-76 Wing which is the equivalent of our C-17. They only have around a 120 of these critical heavy transport aircraft. Russian media is admitting four were "damaged". The huge areas of flames being posted by Russians in the area would indicate something rather more serious than damage.

They appear to be using an Australian developed cardboard drone which, depending on range desired, can carry around a five-pound payload. Because they are cardboard they essentially have no radar return making them invisible to air defense. Five pounds of C4 punching into the wing root of an expensive transport plane can produce rather spectacular results.



Does that mean they'll be well and truly Pskov'ed now?
 
Well looks China smells weakness

China has declared part of Russia as its territory on new official maps

#China's state-owned Standard Map Service has presented a set of geographic maps for 2023, on which for the first time part of #Russia's territory is indicated as part of China. It is about the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River.

According to a 2008 treaty between Russia and China, the island was divided between the two countries. The new official map of China marks the whole island as the easternmost point of the Chinese territory. The explanatory note emphasizes that "the map is made in accordance with the national standards for drawing borders of China and other countries of the world."

The official set of maps will be used in various media materials, including news, books and promotional materials. The maps can also be used as basic reference information.

The Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island covers an area of 327 to 350 square kilometers, depending on the water level in the river. From the early 19th century there was a long struggle between Russia and China for control of it, but in the 1920s and 1930s the island was "taken under guard" by Soviet troops.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the island remained under Russian jurisdiction. China has had a particular interest in the territory, disputing its status since 1964. In 2008, Russia handed over the western part of the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island and other territories to China. Experts at the time pointed to Moscow's long-term interests in stable relations between the two countries.

In addition to the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island, China has marked the #Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh and the border region of Aksai Chin as its territory on maps. The Indian Foreign Ministry has already protested to Beijing.
 
This evening, the Ukrainians struck Pskov Airbase quite a ways from the Ukrainian border. It is the home of a Russian Air Force IL-76 Wing which is the equivalent of our C-17. They only have around a 120 of these critical heavy transport aircraft. Russian media is admitting four were "damaged". The huge areas of flames being posted by Russians in the area would indicate something rather more serious than damage.

They appear to be using an Australian developed cardboard drone which, depending on range desired, can carry around a five-pound payload. Because they are cardboard they essentially have no radar return making them invisible to air defense. Five pounds of C4 punching into the wing root of an expensive transport plane can produce rather spectacular results.



A "cardboard drone"? Leave it to the Aussies to have designed that one. Brilliant!
 
Yes, but ours are networked through satellites or other UAVs. Line of site is the big challenge in doing deep strikes with these sorts of low cost options. I have no idea how they are doing it ..... yet.
As with my previous commentary in this thread on drone targeting and gps, I do not claim to be an expert, but if I was tasked with doing this, my options to explore might be:

1. Integration of an on board data link (LPWAN / UWB / standard WIFI / cellular / frequency hopping 2.4 or 5GHz radio) for short range comms with localised relays and then onto centralized GPS via Starlink. Depending on power consumption, you might be able to cut the relay all together and directly link to starlink.

If a relay was required, it could be either a ground based relay with a SF crew (in which case they could just fly it in directly without the Starlink enabled GPS), or a loitering 'mother' drone within say 5km (commercial, switchblade, hobbyist even). Latency would be a major issue, as would jamming, but relay of waypoint data for initial approach followed by a low grade visual feed for the last 1000m or so might be possible, allowing human guidance onto a target.

UWB might (might) offer 1cm or better accuracy short range positioning superior to traditional GPS with lower power draw, potentially allowing for a fully autonomous approach to the requisite accuracy I guess, but that's beyond my knowledge base.

The average mobile phone can do basically all that stuff, whilst the average wireless earbud can do some of it, which gives an idea on cost and weight...

2. Similar system as above, but piggybacking on local cellular service for a direct data feed to an operator. Data tracking and stream stability would be challenging, but perhaps not impossible within urban areas with 3G+ coverage. This may limit altitude and operating area significantly.

3. Pre-programmed waypoints on the onboard GPS unit as an adaptation of the autonomous functionality used on many hobbyist drones. Basically allows the onboard gyro and servos to stabilise the craft, maintain altitude, speed and bearing, then head to a given coordinate autonomously. Not sure on the accuracy, but most civilian grade units are +/-1 meter or so, for less than $100. The system on the 'Switchblade' is an advanced version of this. Unit weight is only a couple of grams.

If it were me, I'd maybe lean towards option 3 for fully independent autonomous approach with the transmit function turned off for stealth / reduced power consumption, with it turning on upon reaching a predetermined GPS coordinate to allow option 1 for final closing to target.

Either way, I'd expect that some combination of these would allow for a relatively robust system to be built for marginal cost and minimal impact to payload.
 
Nothing in common with Bootygig- Zero. As to Trump-Pence, just the opposite. Complete disloyalty by Pence. If anything Pence threw Trump under the bus. I haven't noticed Pence being indicted for anything during this witch hunt. Wonder why. Pence is largely a nothing burger with no center or conviction. And the polls show it.

Tim Scott seems ok and solid. I think he's taken over number two ranking from Ramaswamy on my list. My list of three includes someone who isn't even running :)

@fourfive8, you might check your wiring as I think you have it backwards. Red goes to the positive (+) and Black to the negative( -).


Bootygig has zero in common at any level with Ramaswamy.
Except that they are both political neophytes that had/have no business running for POTUS. Mayor Pete was at least mayor of South Bend. Ramaswamy should run for some state office in Ohio and prove he can thrive at that level before even thinking about a national office.
 
Well looks China smells weakness

China has declared part of Russia as its territory on new official maps

#China's state-owned Standard Map Service has presented a set of geographic maps for 2023, on which for the first time part of #Russia's territory is indicated as part of China. It is about the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island on the Amur River.

According to a 2008 treaty between Russia and China, the island was divided between the two countries. The new official map of China marks the whole island as the easternmost point of the Chinese territory. The explanatory note emphasizes that "the map is made in accordance with the national standards for drawing borders of China and other countries of the world."

The official set of maps will be used in various media materials, including news, books and promotional materials. The maps can also be used as basic reference information.

The Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island covers an area of 327 to 350 square kilometers, depending on the water level in the river. From the early 19th century there was a long struggle between Russia and China for control of it, but in the 1920s and 1930s the island was "taken under guard" by Soviet troops.

After the collapse of the Soviet Union, the island remained under Russian jurisdiction. China has had a particular interest in the territory, disputing its status since 1964. In 2008, Russia handed over the western part of the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island and other territories to China. Experts at the time pointed to Moscow's long-term interests in stable relations between the two countries.

In addition to the Bolshoy Ussuriysky Island, China has marked the #Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh and the border region of Aksai Chin as its territory on maps. The Indian Foreign Ministry has already protested to Beijing.

This isn’t anything really new, the expansionist faction of the CCP has claimed a lot of Russian territory. The main is the Far East the Vladivostok area.

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Some of the more extreme members of this faction claim up to the Urual mountain range. Though this most recent claim does seem to be a small testing of Sino Russian relations by the CCP.

It is important to remember that the USSR and China fought a border war that just about went nuclear till the US told the USSR that we would retaliate. There is a great documentary about this called Moa’s Cold War if I recall correctly.
 

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