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COLLAPSE OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE??
I'm wondering what that would look like.

Well looking at my cracked and dirty crystal ball, I can't but wonder if we aren't seeing it already. A year ago at this time when we were first seeing what was about to become Russia's invasion of Ukraine, no one would've predicted the war would progress as it has.

This is due greatly to the breakdown of the Russian military. If this war continues to go badly for Russia, the next revolution of the Russian peasants may be in the making.
 
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Not political, but pretty amazing. Merry Christmas all.

 
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when I saw it was Bing Crosby and David Bowie my first thought was that it would be a recording like was done with Jim Reeves and Patsy Cline where two solos were turned into a duet- but this appears to be an actual duet.
 
246 years ago tonight. The turning point of the revolution.

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I agree with most of your points but I don’t admire some of the things the listed politicians do and say in their all-out defense of Trump and his narcissism.

I would certainly not call their collective support for Trump and some of his more controversial contentions as an "all-out" defense of Trump and his narcissism. In all honesty, how familiar are you with the political ideologies of Hawley, Gaetz or some of the others mentioned? How much have actually listened to them beyond some of the talking points the media so often uses to frame them in a certain light? They have a lot more consequential things to say about our eroding republic beyond Trump. I'll happily take a little "revolutionary" leaning rhetoric over blind silence any day.

I am indeed a staunch eighties era Reagan Republican. That is exactly why these self-promoting blowhards are so offensive. They are able to practice their prattle because enough Republicans are doing what is necessary with respect to our actual national interests that they are free to play to the far right Trump base. I think Gaetz and Hawley are actually fairly bright (well, with respect to the speakership - perhaps not Gaetz) and are simply using their microphones to try to advantage themselves as potential heir apparents to that voting block. That strikes as the height of cynicism. MTG is a reflection of AOC in republican clothing. Their combined IOQ might represent a form of plant life.

With all due respect as always, I simply do not agree.. Frankly, the republican party was just as swampy and useless before the Reagan reformations, and the democrats were just as swampy and corrupt, but not all completely insane as they are now.

Furthermore, your assessment of the new so-called "Ultra-MAGA" republicans' agenda doesn't reflect their collective actions. Most, if not all of these people do not come from political backgrounds, and none of them got wealtherier since their public service. So what advantages are they seeking exactly? They appeal to the far right base because that is reflective of their constituency. And, is it not after all the actual job of an elected representative to carry out the will of their constituents? I realize that is a rhetorical question, but it shouldn't be.. It's a sad reflection of what this government has mutated into, and what these kind of representatives are trying to change in D.C... I'll take a hundred, Hawley's, Gaetz's, Bobert's, Lake's or Vance's for that matter before a McConnell or McCarthy.

And, if you are being serious rather than facetious, your comparison of MTG's intelligence to AOC is laughable.. MTG is only abrasive and offensive to those who view her as a threat. She is a self-made small businesswoman who has done well representing the priorities that her constituents elected her to press.. AOC is an ass-clown. A human caricature in every sense. She has built nothing. She contributes nothing. C'mon.. You know better..

As I noted earlier, my experience and understanding of international relations and what constitutes my country's national interests are not so nuanced that supporting Russian territorial ambitions and strategic goals over the self determination of a European state aspiring for a place in the democratic West makes any sort of sense.

My post to you made no direct inference to the Ukraine war. It had to do with our current elected officials' and their dysfunctional sense of priorities for the American people and the United States of America which happens to be in the middle of a multitude of national crises in case anyone forgot..

Point being that the Ukraine-Russian war, and whatever extent of an existential threat to U.S national security it is perceived to be, has to be measured into and against domestic and foreign threats both existential and current. Unfortunately, that is not happening, and lots of Americans, including myself are only asking why? Many of us only want to understand why we are sending lifeboats to Europe when we have a thousand leaks in our ship here at home..

Your military experience has undoubtedly shaped your opinions on foreign policy much in the same as my cynicism and contempt for this incompetent government has shaped mine. I don't think that makes either of us wrong, but we definitely see our priorities for the American people differently. I guess my point is that I have a hard time worrying too much about any sort of Russian expansion in Europe over the next several decades when our own economy, culture, and founding principles are collapsing before our very eyes. And, no I don't think I am being hyperbolic.. On that note, Happy New Year!
 
I would certainly not call their collective support for Trump and some of his more controversial contentions as an "all-out" defense of Trump and his narcissism. In all honesty, how familiar are you with the political ideologies of Hawley, Gaetz or some of the others mentioned? How much have actually listened to them beyond some of the talking points the media so often uses to frame them in a certain light? They have a lot more consequential things to say about our eroding republic beyond Trump. I'll happily take a little "revolutionary" leaning rhetoric over blind silence any day.



With all due respect as always, I simply do not agree.. Frankly, the republican party was just as swampy and useless before the Reagan reformations, and the democrats were just as swampy and corrupt, but not all completely insane as they are now.

Furthermore, your assessment of the new so-called "Ultra-MAGA" republicans' agenda doesn't reflect their collective actions. Most, if not all of these people do not come from political backgrounds, and none of them got wealtherier since their public service. So what advantages are they seeking exactly? They appeal to the far right base because that is reflective of their constituency. And, is it not after all the actual job of an elected representative to carry out the will of their constituents? I realize that is a rhetorical question, but it shouldn't be.. It's a sad reflection of what this government has mutated into, and what these kind of representatives are trying to change in D.C... I'll take a hundred, Hawley's, Gaetz's, Bobert's, Lake's or Vance's for that matter before a McConnell or McCarthy.

And, if you are being serious rather than facetious, your comparison of MTG's intelligence to AOC is laughable.. MTG is only abrasive and offensive to those who view her as a threat. She is a self-made small businesswoman who has done well representing the priorities that her constituents elected her to press.. AOC is an ass-clown. A human caricature in every sense. She has built nothing. She contributes nothing. C'mon.. You know better..



My post to you made no direct inference to the Ukraine war. It had to do with our current elected officials' and their dysfunctional sense of priorities for the American people and the United States of America which happens to be in the middle of a multitude of national crises in case anyone forgot..

Point being that the Ukraine-Russian war, and whatever extent of an existential threat to U.S national security it is perceived to be, has to be measured into and against domestic and foreign threats both existential and current. Unfortunately, that is not happening, and lots of Americans, including myself are only asking why? Many of us only want to understand why we are sending lifeboats to Europe when we have a thousand leaks in our ship here at home..

Your military experience has undoubtedly shaped your opinions on foreign policy much in the same as my cynicism and contempt for this incompetent government has shaped mine. I don't think that makes either of us wrong, but we definitely see our priorities for the American people differently. I guess my point is that I have a hard time worrying too much about any sort of Russian expansion in Europe over the next several decades when our own economy, culture, and founding principles are collapsing before our very eyes. And, no I don't think I am being hyperbolic.. On that note, Happy New Year!
As I said, we agree on most things. Our society is turning to shit.

I have seen and read Hawley a lot on FOX and other sources and really liked him at first. I still do like him albeit less. He defended Trump to the end and lost credibility with me and millions of others because of it. Republicans and everyone need to understand that you lose overall credibility when you out and out deny obvious bad facts about Trump, or anyone, for that matter. I’m on the same team, but respect him less. This mantra of defend at all costs, even when you know someone is wrong about something, is dishonest to me.

As for taking care of this country and our immediate homeland priorities, I understand and have that feeling as well but not to the extent of ignoring other problems. We should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
 
I've never been a big Tom Cruise fan, and i despise the cesspool of Hollywood. I dont go to movie theaters, but I did purchase Top Gun Maverick on DVD.
The original Top Gun is iconic, but the sequel blows it away.
The arial footage of the F-18's was amazing, and the cruise missiles blowing up the airstrip was badass, as well as what it took to destroy a target in between 2 steep mountains. Embellished for theater I know, but it was still an amazing movie. IMO

I wonder if Navy recruitment was as off the charts like it was after the first Top Gun. With the generation of idiots this country is raising, I highly doubt it.
 
I've never been a big Tom Cruise fan, and i despise the cesspool of Hollywood. I dont go to movie theaters, but I did purchase Top Gun Maverick on DVD.
The original Top Gun is iconic, but the sequel blows it away.
The arial footage of the F-18's was amazing, and the cruise missiles blowing up the airstrip was badass, as well as what it took to destroy a target in between 2 steep mountains. Embellished for theater I know, but it was still an amazing movie. IMO

I wonder if Navy recruitment was as off the charts like it was after the first Top Gun. With the generation of idiots this country is raising, I highly doubt it.
IDK about "Maverick," but the original was a massive boon to USAF recruitment, probably even moreso than for the USN.
 
I would certainly not call their collective support for Trump and some of his more controversial contentions as an "all-out" defense of Trump and his narcissism. In all honesty, how familiar are you with the political ideologies of Hawley, Gaetz or some of the others mentioned? How much have actually listened to them beyond some of the talking points the media so often uses to frame them in a certain light? They have a lot more consequential things to say about our eroding republic beyond Trump. I'll happily take a little "revolutionary" leaning rhetoric over blind silence any day.



With all due respect as always, I simply do not agree.. Frankly, the republican party was just as swampy and useless before the Reagan reformations, and the democrats were just as swampy and corrupt, but not all completely insane as they are now.

Furthermore, your assessment of the new so-called "Ultra-MAGA" republicans' agenda doesn't reflect their collective actions. Most, if not all of these people do not come from political backgrounds, and none of them got wealtherier since their public service. So what advantages are they seeking exactly? They appeal to the far right base because that is reflective of their constituency. And, is it not after all the actual job of an elected representative to carry out the will of their constituents? I realize that is a rhetorical question, but it shouldn't be.. It's a sad reflection of what this government has mutated into, and what these kind of representatives are trying to change in D.C... I'll take a hundred, Hawley's, Gaetz's, Bobert's, Lake's or Vance's for that matter before a McConnell or McCarthy.

And, if you are being serious rather than facetious, your comparison of MTG's intelligence to AOC is laughable.. MTG is only abrasive and offensive to those who view her as a threat. She is a self-made small businesswoman who has done well representing the priorities that her constituents elected her to press.. AOC is an ass-clown. A human caricature in every sense. She has built nothing. She contributes nothing. C'mon.. You know better..



My post to you made no direct inference to the Ukraine war. It had to do with our current elected officials' and their dysfunctional sense of priorities for the American people and the United States of America which happens to be in the middle of a multitude of national crises in case anyone forgot..

Point being that the Ukraine-Russian war, and whatever extent of an existential threat to U.S national security it is perceived to be, has to be measured into and against domestic and foreign threats both existential and current. Unfortunately, that is not happening, and lots of Americans, including myself are only asking why? Many of us only want to understand why we are sending lifeboats to Europe when we have a thousand leaks in our ship here at home..

Your military experience has undoubtedly shaped your opinions on foreign policy much in the same as my cynicism and contempt for this incompetent government has shaped mine. I don't think that makes either of us wrong, but we definitely see our priorities for the American people differently. I guess my point is that I have a hard time worrying too much about any sort of Russian expansion in Europe over the next several decades when our own economy, culture, and founding principles are collapsing before our very eyes. And, no I don't think I am being hyperbolic.. On that note, Happy New Year!
Of course my background shapes my opinion, just as it does yours. Opinion based on belief rather than factual experience and evidence isn't really worth debating. Rather like a plumber arguing drainage concerns with a history major drop out. And no, I do not consider you a history major or a drop out. But yes, academically and professionally I have had broad exposure to political military concerns. It was a career that was in the latter stages heavily laden with congressional interaction as well over fairly significant issues both military and civilian. I have very few "feelings" about the concerns I express.

I also think I have a pretty good handle on the importance and legacy of the Reagan revolution. At my age and with respect to my profession, I lived it more than most. One thing I would remind the latter day MAGA enthusiasts is that Reagan was the absolute antithesis of an isolationist. He believed it was not only in American interests to defend its concerns internationally, but it was also a fundamental American responsibility to do so. I have no doubt whatsoever what Reagan's and this nation's response would be to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. And it would not be the hesitant machinations of Biden's team. I suspect even Gaetz and Hawley would be forced to acknowledge that truth.

And yes, with respect to Ukraine, I think they are both political grifters. They are smart enough to know that stopping Russian strategic ambitions is critical to our nation's strategic interests (ok, at least Hawley is), but are craven enough to hide behind their colleagues votes to further their own personal political ambitions.

And MTG? I have known any number of successful business people who were clueless beyond their areas of experience and expertise. I find her an absolute embarrassment.

With respect to the current state of our government, I suspect you and I are largely in agreement. It is why I referred to the war in Ukraine where we clearly differ whatever you wrote in your last post. The omnibus bill is a travesty of budget management. Both parties are indeed to blame. There is enormous wastage in that bill - tiny portions of which would fully fund our commitment to stopping Russian aggression in Ukraine. But none of that fiscal mismanagement has a thing to do with the critical importance of stopping Russian ambitions.

And I wish you the best of new years as well.
 
I see that some of the US representative/senators consider the goal with the Ukraine incursion to be a change in Russia's leadership and possibly a collapse of the Russian state. Although there are many options for the paths that a nation may follow, it can only follow one at a time, leaving to speculation what the outcome would have been if a different path had been followed. What would the 20 terrorists have accomplished on Sept 11, 2001 if the various agencies would have been less turf-minded and shared information So that the threat was known? What would the middle-east look like if the intelligence agencies had honestly reviewed the facts sans the group think that led to group hypnosis that Saddam had weaponry that he claimed and executed a massive shell game to convince others, thus bringing about his own demise? What could have happened if the Libyan govt was left intact, rather than deposing the leader and turning the country into anarchist bands?
My opinion is that all of the above situations could have been handled in such a way that US interests were protected without changing the adversaries leadership. It seems to me that President Trump was accomplishing this goal with his dealings with North Korea and to some extent with China.

we don;t know what the future holds following any of the decisions by the US re Ukraine, but given recent history it appears to me that supplying any aid or weaponry designed for offensive use against the Russian mainland with intent to change Russian leadership is a serious mistake. If the Russian politico make changes, that is their right and if done in an orderly fashion I think the US would accept and recognize the new government,
 
I liked Top Gun: Maverick, but here's the thing. We're going to fly down a narrow canyon, we're going to rely on instinct instead of instruments, and to make this work we need to shoot at a target that's less than two meters wide. I think I saw that movie in 1977.
 

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