My Covid vaccination experience

[pamtnman]

Thats right. It might also kill you or leave you with serious health issues.

That’s right. It’s a lab-designed bioweapon, created by our arch enemies the Chinese, with help from USA Doctor Mengele Frankenstein Fauci. Covid1984 magically appeared right before a major USA election that had a 100% pro-America candidate vs a 100% corrupt and financially compromised pro-China candidate. It’s almost as if the virus-parasite was unleashed on purpose, to disrupt America’s election and politically hurt the only pro America candidate we have had in a very long time. This debate about the coercion, shaming, punitive approach to “encouraging” Americans to take unapproved, untested vaccines has rightly spawned a second discussion. The best covid vaccines don’t last more than six months, which allows the person to carry and spread covid unknowingly. These vaccines are not like our measles or polio or diphtheria vaccines. These covid vaccines are at best temporary and transitory. They are about 50-60% effective, and are causing dangerous covid mutations. Many people have either died or been permanently injured from some of the covid vaccines. Many vaccinated people have nonetheless gotten covid, with results ranging from mild symptoms to death.
There’s quite a good and healthy, necessary public policy debate about this mess. The leftist media wants us to all stand in line. The corporations want us to all stand in line. The federal government wants us to all stand in line. To get something experimental and that might actually do more harm than good.
Free People naturally do not want to just stand in line. They don’t want coercion and lies and punitive behavior because they are afraid of the unproven vaccines.
I am sorry people here are losing friends to the Chinese Flu. Americans who died from it died on a new type of battlefield. Trying to blame anyone else than the Chinese or the present danger USA administration that is importing millions of illegal aliens who are not masked, not tested, not vaccinated, is misplaced anger.

 

[Rubberhead]

My friend of 35 years died two days ago. My whole crew and I are shocked, upset and pissed at the fkn Chinese. I’m also pissed at idiots spreading misinformation about the vaccines. My friend believed that BS and refused to get vaccinated. Now he’s dead at least 15 years too early. He was healthy with zero contributing illness. What a shame. What a damn shame!

I'm mad as heck at the Chinese and their American enablers too. But, I'm also mad at those in the medical and media establishments that ignore and, literally, banned effective treatments for COVID. I'm mad that this same group actually faked a study that these treatments didn't work. I'm made because a friend's young and fully vaccinated sister believed she couldn't get COVID and is not passed probably 45 years too soon. I'm encouraged that word is getting out and a friends elderly dad with several comorbidities was smart enough to seek effective treatment and within days of getting some Monoclonal Antibody treatments is almost back to normal. I'm mad as heck that they're in such a rush to vaccinate kids (who we were originally told were largely immune to COVID symptoms) that they've added Tromethamine to prevent heart attacks in 5 to 11 year olds...

I'm mad as heck that the "Big Pharma" is the major sponsor or most "pro-vaccine" news organizations.

There are idiots, liars and thieves on both side spreading misinformation about the vaccine and absolutely zero major news outlets with any intellectual curiosity about this at all...because they're sponsored by Pfizer...but the truth is that no one lying about the ineffectiveness of the vaccine has anything to gain where the ones lying about it's effectiveness are becoming billionaires.

 

[Bsto270]

I got my first two of moderna back in May. So far so good, although felt lousy for a day after second one. My ex father in law skipped the jab, was a deputy coroner, ended up with it, ten days in the hospital then fell over dead the day after he got home. He had some health issues but was way young to go. My ex's grandpa was taken too ( I'm sure he didn't get the jab, as the man was good natured but loved a conspiracy theory ala contrails). My grandfather, 85, went though a long haul of chemo coming in to 2021, got breakthrough COVID despite the Pfizer vaccine. However, he survived it without hospital care. I haven't talked to anyone about a booster yet as I'm probably not high priority at 36.

 

[pamtnman]

Epoch News TV has had several long and fascinating interviews with actual doctors about all of these medical and policy questions. It’s natural for smart people to be alarmed at all the punitive policies and unwillingness to allow a scientific discussion about something as complicated as covid1984. Jan Jekeliek is Epoch TV’s main interviewer, and I encourage curious minds to look him up.

 

[pamtnman]

“The same week NFL player Aaron Rodgers tested positive for Covid, Denver QB Drew Lock who is vaccinated also tested positive which required his vaccinated teammate Teddy Bridgewater to produce a negative test in order to play on Sunday. This turn of events proves that the vaccinated can get Covid and spread it to the vaccinated. Drew Lock was just as much of a threat to his teammates as Rodgers, yet he escaped the media onslaught only because he took a vaccine that didn’t work.”
Judd Garrett, 11/10/21

 

[Hogpatrol]

“The same week NFL player Aaron Rodgers tested positive for Covid, Denver QB Drew Lock who is vaccinated also tested positive which required his vaccinated teammate Teddy Bridgewater to produce a negative test in order to play on Sunday. This turn of events proves that the vaccinated can get Covid and spread it to the vaccinated. Drew Lock was just as much of a threat to his teammates as Rodgers, yet he escaped the media onslaught only because he took a vaccine that didn’t work.”
Judd Garrett, 11/10/21

The biased reporter left out "on him" on the end of the last sentence. More fake news.

 

[gbflyer]

2 Modernas in February a booster last Wednesday. Arm is a little sore. We are 50 air miles with no road to a bandaid station. My hobby job employer required me to produce proof of vaccine. I told them to shove off. Haven’t fired me yet, I guess they are now waiting to see how the multi-state class action comes out.

 

[Hogpatrol]

7.47 BILLIONS shots given. Yeah, it's experimental. Good grief.

 

[Rubberhead]

7.47 BILLIONS shots given. Yeah, it's experimental. Good grief.

Over the course of less than 12 months...yep, very experimental.

 

[Hogpatrol]

Over the course of less than 12 months...yep, very experimental.

To a subset of the human race, everything that enters the body is experimental. How about peanuts and seafood eaten for the first time? This vaccine is just a rejiggered one from another disease.

Time for the "Untouchables" on H&I then an afternoon at the range.

 

[baxterb]

Thats right. It might also kill you or leave you with serious health issues.

Yes. My daughter got it and her taste is still off. We actually think this is the second times she’s had it - the first time in November 2019 before anyone knew what Covid was. She’s also developed exercise induced asthma. She’s 15.

In a decade when a fuller story is told on this, we will scratch our heads and wonder why in the hell we didn’t bomb the lab, throw fauci in jail, and cease ties with China.

I would suggest everyone really look into the “vaccines” and how they work. No, it’s not a conspiracy, but the mRNA shots produce such a narrow antibody that they are missing variants. Immunity from an infection (no, I’m not suggesting you get it) produces a wider variety of antibodies and deeper t-cell memory. There are many reports in places like the lancet that suggest we need to see post-Covid immunity as equal to vaxxed. For example, In Switzerland you can get a Covid passport if you’ve been vaxxed OR recovered. We are way behind on reporting this, and I think it’s flat-out political.

fauci needs to go. I think he is pushing vaxxes and boosters so much to try to mitigate the deaths that he knows his work (even if partial) is responsible for. I would imagine if he has anything regarding a soul, he has woken up many times screaming “Out damned spot! Out I say!”

 

[Pheroze]

If I was a malevolent foreign power, I would leverage a moderately problematic disease to disrupt the economy of my enemy. I would use fear and misinformation to disrupt the ability of the country to vaccinate its population. Once the resulting political turmoil had sufficiently disrupted the society and economy I would advance my own interets internationally.

But that's probably too far fetched. When in history has a foreign power disrupted an enemy as a prelude to conquest....

 

[JimP]

Vaccines don't mean that you won't get it but if you do it may be a lot lighter version of what is out there.

No vaccine out there is 100% effective.

 

[sestoppelman]

Vaccines don't mean that you won't get it but if you do it may be a lot lighter version of what is out there.

No vaccine out there is 100% effective.

'Vaccines are very effective at preventing disease, but they don't work all the time. Most of the recommended childhood immunizations are 90%-100% effective, according to the CDC.'

Pretty dang close in many cases. Much closer than the Covid jab, I hesitate to call it a vaccine, its certainly not an immunization.

 

[Bonk]

No one has yet been able to explain to me why I need to get a vaccine if you're vaccinated. I may be a risk to myself but how am I a risk to the vaccinated? I was tested for antibodies about 2 months ago and was negative. About 2 weeks ago I was sick for 3-4 days with flu like symptoms so I got tested for C19 for informational purposes. Again negative. I don't have Covid and apparently have never had it so how am I a risk to anyone else?

I've read the data and determined that at my age (63) and in my circumstances (excellent health) the consequences of catching Covid are less than the still largely unknown risks of the vaccines. If I catch Covid the data suggests I'll probably be symptomatic. It also suggests I might have to seek care from a physician. It's unlikely I'll require hospitalization and if I do it's very unlikely I'll be in the ICU or on a ventilator. The bottom line is that even at my age the odds are extremely unlikely I'll die from Covid. Possible? Yes, but the possible downsides of the vaccine are more of a concern to me than death from Covid. If I catch Covid and die it'll all be over in a few weeks. OTOH, if there are serious long term negative side affects from the vaccines I may be living with them for years.

 

[sestoppelman]

My friend of 35 years died two days ago. My whole crew and I are shocked, upset and pissed at the fkn Chinese. I’m also pissed at idiots spreading misinformation about the vaccines. My friend believed that BS and refused to get vaccinated. Now he’s dead at least 15 years too early. He was healthy with zero contributing illness. What a shame. What a damn shame!

While nobody wants to see anyone die from this, the idea that others "misinformation" caused the death of your friend isnt really accurate or fair. Your friend died due to his own choices. People believe what they want to believe. He chose to not get the jab, nobody chose for him.

Is this the same friend who lived on the mountain and was visited by his sick ex who brought it up to him?

We all make choices in life, some dont work out, others do. But our system allows us to make mistakes, and while I share your distain for the Chinese, I place pretty much equal blame on the little lying turd Fauci, the NIH, CDC and a host of others for their mishandling and misinformation and outright lies about this crap.
I remember early on when the Chinese tried to blame the US for the C19 and I laughed, like sure, its our fault right? Turns out it may well have been partially our fault for dicking around with shit we shouldnt be dicking around with, that the little lying turd Fauci had a hand in. He can deny it all he wants, but its been proven and admitted to by the NIH that its true, the whole gain of function fiasco.
There is plenty of blame to go around for those who have succumbed to this, but again, its about choice, we still have that here at least for now.
I am sorry for the loss of your friend.

 

[baxterb]

Vaccines don't mean that you won't get it but if you do it may be a lot lighter version of what is out there.

No vaccine out there is 100% effective.

no, but I also don’t recall having to get any other vax booster (of the exact same vax) after 6-8 months. Even flu varies year to year, but Covid has to be boosted in 6-8 months?

I’m no doctor, but I think time will show that the mRNA vaxes do not impart the long-term memory response like a traditional vax of a dead or weakened virus.

 

[WAB]

My friend of 35 years died two days ago. My whole crew and I are shocked, upset and pissed at the fkn Chinese. I’m also pissed at idiots spreading misinformation about the vaccines. My friend believed that BS and refused to get vaccinated. Now he’s dead at least 15 years too early. He was healthy with zero contributing illness. What a shame. What a damn shame!

Very sorry to hear that Scott. I lost one of my best friends in January. He was planning to get vaccinated but came down with the virus before the vaccine was available. He was 60 and healthy. This virus really sucks.

 

[jwp475]

I had a fairly strong response to the second Pfizer vaccine; fever, chills, night sweats, etc. As miserable I was for about a day or so, it was far less miserable than I was with covid.

Since you had natural immunity after having Covid-19 why would you get the vaccine?

 

[pamtnman]

The biased reporter left out "on him" on the end of the last sentence. More fake news.

But the Marxist woke mob is telling everyone we must be vaccinated, or we are spreading covid. The fake news media tells us we must get the vaccine, because. I agree it is HIS choice, or my choice, but we are not being presented with a choice to take or not take the vaccine. And we are more or less told it is 100% effective, because even small numbers of waivers are “unacceptable.” So not fake news here. The NFL acts as if the vaccine is 100% effective, and 100% of employees must be vaccinated. Judd is correct factually and the overall vaccine-or-die coercive narrative is totally fake news. That you are ok with, Hog.