Mannlicher-Schoenauer in 9,3x64

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

I am using cartridges cal. 9,3 x 62 from RWS with bullet SP ( 285 gr ) and Original Brenneke Torpedo Universal Bullet ( 293gr ).
I use the same cartridges in 375H&H and never had problems in Africa and Poland.

 

[HWL]

Paul...I had the same experience with some RWS ammo many years ago..... 375H&H with 300 grain Kegelspitz bullets....horribly overloaded, bolt sticked hard after each shot...I gave up after 4 rounds....and mind you, we were shooting in subzero temperatures... That ammo was plain downright dangerous...

This is how german firearm manufacturers conquer the market.

Winchesters, Remingtons, Savages & Co are simply blown away, while Mauser M98 work flawlessly...



HWL

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Not for sale any longer, I bought it and I will keep it.

HWL

HWL, I think the correct thing to do is for you to bring this rifle to South Africa while you participate in the Black Powder hunt so I can take my .458 Win Mag Mannlicher Schoenauer with , so we both can do a hunt with these two Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles??? We will have kudu , impala and warthog to hunt the last two days with our own rifles for our own account...Willie Barnard allow this to be possible every year... I have an exact copy like your rifle but only in a .458 Win Mag caliber...

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Exactly the same type of rifle , just in another caliber:

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Nice rifle Gert.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

How much $$$

brenneke my favorite caliber

Don 458, I have a beautiful Brenneke 7x64 available to buy. Then there is a Brenneke 9.3 x 64 for sale as well if you are interested..price on the Brenneke 7x64 = $2009.10 USA ...I do not think permanent exportation to the USA will be a problem....

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Yes, Withold, as HWL said these Mannlicher Schoenauers are in a class of their own..I took my .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer to the elephant hunting course , shot it open sights and had excellent shot placement on the live size targets we shot at , at different angles and distances... I will be extremely fortunate to meet HWL next year at the 1884 Era Black powder hunt..he will be a new member who will participate in the hunt..

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

I envy you Gert.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

I envy you Gert.

Withold why don`t you participate in next year`s black powder hunt as well??

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

What are the rules Gert?

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Withold, here is a video you can look at that will give you an idea of what this type of hunt is about...HWL,my apologies if it seems I am hijacking your post..since you are participating in this hunt next year I think you will like this ,

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Cool fun. I need tu think about it. Thanks Gert.

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Some experts say, it does not even exist,.... and here it comes....

The Mannlicher-Schoenauer MCA in 9,3x64!

Proof marks from Proof House of Vienna 1968, metal parts like new, some minor dents in the stock.

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HWL, "The Mannlicher -Schoenauer MCA " can you elaborate on the "MCA" part of the sentence? What does the "MCA " stands for ...I know the white spacers/black liners was a trend in America when Weatherby rifles was so popular and it was part of their design features. I noticed the normal Mannlicher Schoenauers was a plain well designed rifle without any white line spacers and soup bowl cheek piece...
The most prominent feature on all Mannlicher -Schoenauers are the sleek rifle stock design...was this due to the use being mostly hunting in the mountains around Austria??? I really would like to hear more about the Mannlicher -Schoenauer stock design features...
Would the Mannlicher -Schoenauer in the caliber of a 9.3x68 be a more rare item than the 9.3 x 64???
The soup bowl feature on my .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer is a design feature I really do not understand since this is a heavy recoil dangerous game rifle and for sure it must be a limitation to some users..not every person`s face profile will accept this soup bowl design when shooting this rifle..for example it causes quite a lot of pain to the side of Johan Greyling`s face when he shoot this .458 MS...while my face profile fits nicely into the soup bowl feature...

 

[Gert Odendaal]

HWL, I noticed a company called WattsWallnut has available scope mounts to fit the .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer I have..there are already drilled/tap holes on the left side of the receiver..all that is left is to drill and tap the front receiver bridge to scope my .458 Mannlicher Schoenaer ...

 

[Gert Odendaal]

Here is even a better designed scope mounts with a Ghost ring as well..this looks like a great option for the .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer rifle...keep in mind the .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer is not a "real" collectors item...although many hunters will buy one if he can get hold of one it is not a collectors item ..so, scoping the .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer with this type of scope bases will increase it`s functionality and usability for plains game hunting..

 

[Gert Odendaal]

HWL, will it be possible to upload a photo of the safety on your Mannlicher Schoenauer..since one curios feature on my .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer is that there are two safety switches on my rifle..one on the right hand a sliding safety and then the flag safety..this lets me to believe my rifle does not have a collectors value since the slide safety is already fitted previously...this is why I am contemplating fitting the Redfield scope bases/mounts with the ghost ring , the one in the picture...I would like to hear your opinion in this regards????
Here is a photo of the side safety..

 

[ZG47]

Hi Pondoro...

I shot it not yet....

I want to hunt with this rifle, but I do not want to modify it in any way, not even the recoil pad
HWL

PAST shoulder pad? Shotgun shirt with recoil pad and sleeves shortened for extra movement?

 

[Pondoro]

This is how german firearm manufacturers conquer the market.

Winchesters, Remingtons, Savages & Co are simply blown away, while Mauser M98 work flawlessly...



HWL

You do not get it...I shot those rounds in a Brno ZKK 602 rifle. It has a Mauser lock at least as strong as any M98 actions...the RWS ammunition was dangerously overloaded..

 

[7x57Joe]

Gert, MCA is Monte Carlo Allpurpose stock design, a redesign of the 1956 MC which had the monte carlo too high to see the iron sights. The MCA doesn't have the soup bowl cheek rest but, a more conventional beaver tail type. Yes the white line spacers were a 1960's American thing that I wish had never happened. To my eye, the 1950 M/S had the best stock and bolt handle design. In 1952 the handle was swept back and in 1956 the God-awful Monte Carlo stock was added.
The earlier models, 1903, 1905, 1908, and 1910 had everything right!

 

[7x57Joe]

Gert, regarding the safety on the MCA, the earlier one was the same type in your photo. I believe it was 1963 when the "behind the bolt" sliding tang safety was added. I have a 1961 with the side safety and a 1965 with the tang safety.