Live Animal Relocation to USA

[3chunter]

How bout we stop importing non native species unless it’s for agriculture to feed our people? Let our native species thrive and spread as they like and can. This is some first world hobbyist nonsense. I remember listening to Kevin Robertson saying how awesome it was to have Cape buffalo in Texas. Probably doesn’t hurt that that’s his job now.. Utter poppycock says I. Most of us are usually up in arms when something like this happens in Africa but not so here. How about a little objectivity.

I am just talking about game animals. It’s not like in southeast we have that many game species. We don’t. Deer, turkey, rabbit. No more quail so there’s that. Not sure what it could hurt.

 

[JimP]

If you have a 10,000 or more acres surrounded by a 10 foot tall fence I'd say by all means import some.

But don't forget about all the permits and variances that you'll need along dealing with the USFW and possibly the USDA

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

I am just talking about game animals. It’s not like in southeast we have that many game species. We don’t. Deer, turkey, rabbit. No more quail so there’s that. Not sure what it could hurt.

I empathize since I’m in the same boat in Oklahoma. I just don’t think more hunting opportunities justify it given the bigger picture. It really does pain me to say that but it is what it is.

 

[Sabre]

I wonder what the motivation would be for African Game Farmers to take part in that would be as well. If for instance, all the animals of Africa became much more common and plentiful to hunt in the states, then cost would go down for them in the states. There then wouldn't be nearly as much of an incentive for people to go over to Africa and hunt them as much.

Just like with most things, given enough money, someone will participate. But I'd think the African government and game farms especially would try to slow the roll on lots of live animal relocation to the US.

 

[Red Leg]

Ask the landowners in Argentina what the introduced red deer did to the native deer population. I am not against introduction of non-native species in a controlled area, but things can happen. Lots of available species already here to hunt.

What native deer population in Argentina has been affected?

 

[Red Leg]

I wonder what the motivation would be for African Game Farmers to take part in that would be as well. If for instance, all the animals of Africa became much more common and plentiful to hunt in the states, then cost would go down for them in the states. There then wouldn't be nearly as much of an incentive for people to go over to Africa and hunt them as much.

Just like with most things, given enough money, someone will participate. But I'd think the African government and game farms especially would try to slow the roll on lots of live animal relocation to the US.

Fortunately most of us hunt Africa for the experience rather than to collect.

 

[JimP]

I wonder what the motivation would be for African Game Farmers to take part in that would be as well. If for instance, all the animals of Africa became much more common and plentiful to hunt in the states, then cost would go down for them in the states. There then wouldn't be nearly as much of an incentive for people to go over to Africa and hunt them as much.

Just like with most things, given enough money, someone will participate. But I'd think the African government and game farms especially would try to slow the roll on lots of live animal relocation to the US.

All that you need to do is look at the cost of hunting some of the African animals in Texas compared to Africa. You can hunt a dozen animals in Africa for what it cost for a single animal in Texas.

I missed out on a warthog on my first safari, and when I heard that there's a ranch in Texas that you can hunt them on I checked it out. The cost is around $10,000 for just one. I believe that you can do a cull hunt in Africa for half that and shoot quite a few of them

 

[K-man]

What native deer population in Argentina has been affected?

The andean deer is critically endangered now. The common accepted cause is it's main food source is also favored by the red deer and the red is a more aggressive species. Less than 500 remain according to some sources. Most of the locals have never seen one.

 

[mark-hunter]

What native deer population in Argentina has been affected?

Marsh deer.

The IUCN Red List of Threatened Species

Established in 1964, the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species has evolved to become the world’s most comprehensive information source on the global conservation status of animal, fungi and plant species.

www.iucnredlist.org

 

[Sabre]

Fortunately most of us hunt Africa for the experience rather than to collect.

All that you need to do is look at the cost of hunting some of the African animals in Texas compared to Africa. You can hunt a dozen animals in Africa for what it cost for a single animal in Texas.

I missed out on a warthog on my first safari, and when I heard that there's a ranch in Texas that you can hunt them on I checked it out. The cost is around $10,000 for just one. I believe that you can do a cull hunt in Africa for half that and shoot quite a few of them

I agree with both of you, but what I am saying is simple supply and demand. If the supply increases dramatically stateside, the cost would go down stateside, and the demand for traveling to Africa to hunt would decrease as well.