Good Gun Deals This Week

[JSL]

With much respect intended, sincerely, don't take this the wrong way because its meant to be friendly, not harsh.

Auctions flourish on the bids of those that know the least. The savvy that "know the most" bid on as many as 20 items and may win 2,3, 4 or none. I've literally bid on 20 items with 100 hours of research and forethought and won zero before because the auction went insane. In another example I bid on 16 items and won 8 for what I thought were very good values.

But at any rate, auctions are designed to be deceptive. Auction estimates are always, on the average, considerably lower than reality for the purpose of luring in bidders. About 5% of the time they get it wrong and scare away all the bidders in which case I'm the guy in the wings the second the auction closes with a low-ball offer on a lot that received zero bids.

But for your specific gun, lets work the math:

$1500 high-estimate = 120% actually hammer price on the average, so $1800.

Then add 17.5% hammer premium.

Then add 3% online internet bidder premium.

Then $21 for insurance

Then $7.50 for the box

Then $75 for the shipping

Then 3% for Credit Card Processing

Then add in the delay of 3-4 weeks they take to get it shipped.

You can be the proud owner of a mass produced gun, sight unseen, for $2340.68.

Everyone has a different psychology about money and auctions so I don't judge you or anyone else for their preferences. I personally can afford to bid on $40,000 worth of bargains in an attempt to spend $9000 on three guns that are a steal, but I cannot afford to spend $2340.68 on a mass manufactured, used, push feed firearm that I cannot see in person ahead of time. I make mistakes, and if I were to buy that gun for $2340 and there is anything wrong with it, it might cost $500 to cure and I might sell it for HALF of my total investment...I can't afford that. But buying $8000 guns for half price? Yeah, I can survive an oversight or latent defect and still survive the transaction without losing months of my discretionary income in a single swoop.

Add in the value of time to enter-bid-pay-process, the deal breaks down for me, but as you'll see by what prices are fetched at Auctions, it is worth a lot of people's time that love the auction experience.

A much higher condition example of the same firearm was posted above in this thread on GunBroker for $2000 "buy it now". For a lot less messing around with auctions, you could buy a similar gun this morning for 15% less than the likely final cost of the Poulin rifle.

I discuss this with my partner and see if I can get permission or not, wish me luck, if I don't respond they probably ate me.

 

[rookhawk]

https://www.gunsinternational.com/g...-quot-barrel-make-offer-.cfm?gun_id=102300575

Yikes!

Sold by the firm that has every original salt recipe, ever original tool, every original fixture, the original stain recipes, the shop manuals that define how everything is to be applied and cured, every engraving book, every ledger that cross-correlates to the Cody museum to determine which guns will letter and which ones are "unprovable".

It would be an incredible temptation to make invisible repairs or enhancements that would be undetectable by 99% of the world's foremost experts, wouldn't it.

I have no inside information that would prove that is going on, but Motive and Opportunity exist, and there is sure a lot of slurs and accusations in the collector world pointed that direction. All I know for certain is a tremendous amount of Winchesters move through that venue that cannot be matched to a known build sheet at the Cody Museum.

 

[Daniel Cary]

Whoa!

GEORGE GIBBS MAGAZINE RIFLE .505 GIBBS

GEORGE GIBBS MAGAZINE RIFLE .505 GIBBS for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[Aaron N]

Whoa!

GEORGE GIBBS MAGAZINE RIFLE .505 GIBBS

GEORGE GIBBS MAGAZINE RIFLE .505 GIBBS for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

You are a glutton for punishment! I don’t think I’ve seen you post anything under .50.

What a lovely rifle though

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

This would pair nicely with @Red Leg ‘s 7x65r!

This is a lot of double for that price.

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

MSRP $10k.

Chapuis Iphisi 375 H&H Double Rifle

Chapuis Iphisi 375 H&H Double Rifle for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

Why is this Iphisi for sale I wonder?

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Why is this Iphisi for sale I wonder?

That one was interesting to me at least. Brand new in the box and below MSRP. Lower than any other I’ve seen. Someone jumped on it as it’s marked sold now

 

[ET1775]

Why is this Iphisi for sale I wonder?

Someone's wife probably found the credit card statement...

 

[mdwest]

Why is this Iphisi for sale I wonder?

I didnt realize MSRP on an Iphisi is only $9999..

Thats quite a bargain on a nice, new double!

 

[Kevin Peacocke]

I didnt realize MSRP on an Iphisi is only $9999..

Thats quite a bargain on a nice, new double!

Yes, provided it works without any problems. I am still awaiting a report from someone, we have asked and asked but nothing forthcoming.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

For you wildcat guys out there

Atkinson-Marquart~Custom~505 A&M Magnum

Atkinson-Marquart~Custom~505 A&M Magnum for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

 

[WillMFerguson]

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/984082888. Merkel double in .375.

B. Searcy takedown in .375. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/981597532

Model 95 Farquharson in 450/400 https://www.gunbroker.com/item/983886300

LSB is pretty nice to deal with, even if they are Californians.

 

[geoff rath]

With much respect intended, sincerely, don't take this the wrong way because its meant to be friendly, not harsh.

Auctions flourish on the bids of those that know the least. The savvy that "know the most" bid on as many as 20 items and may win 2,3, 4 or none. I've literally bid on 20 items with 100 hours of research and forethought and won zero before because the auction went insane. In another example I bid on 16 items and won 8 for what I thought were very good values.

But at any rate, auctions are designed to be deceptive. Auction estimates are always, on the average, considerably lower than reality for the purpose of luring in bidders. About 5% of the time they get it wrong and scare away all the bidders in which case I'm the guy in the wings the second the auction closes with a low-ball offer on a lot that received zero bids.

But for your specific gun, lets work the math:

$1500 high-estimate = 120% actually hammer price on the average, so $1800.

Then add 17.5% hammer premium.

Then add 3% online internet bidder premium.

Then $21 for insurance

Then $7.50 for the box

Then $75 for the shipping

Then 3% for Credit Card Processing

Then add in the delay of 3-4 weeks they take to get it shipped.

You can be the proud owner of a mass produced gun, sight unseen, for $2340.68.

Everyone has a different psychology about money and auctions so I don't judge you or anyone else for their preferences. I personally can afford to bid on $40,000 worth of bargains in an attempt to spend $9000 on three guns that are a steal, but I cannot afford to spend $2340.68 on a mass manufactured, used, push feed firearm that I cannot see in person ahead of time. I make mistakes, and if I were to buy that gun for $2340 and there is anything wrong with it, it might cost $500 to cure and I might sell it for HALF of my total investment...I can't afford that. But buying $8000 guns for half price? Yeah, I can survive an oversight or latent defect and still survive the transaction without losing months of my discretionary income in a single swoop.

Add in the value of time to enter-bid-pay-process, the deal breaks down for me, but as you'll see by what prices are fetched at Auctions, it is worth a lot of people's time that love the auction experience.

A much higher condition example of the same firearm was posted above in this thread on GunBroker for $2000 "buy it now". For a lot less messing around with auctions, you could buy a similar gun this morning for 15% less than the likely final cost of the Poulin rifle.

Great advice, gratis, from One who knows the "bizness". listen to the MAN.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Here’s this week’s caveat emptor. Not sure what is going on with this gun, but nothing adds up at all about it. Definitely a W & C Scott action. Probably a shotgun like a ten bore, but could have once been a black powder express gun too. Someone has very poorly struck off original proof marks. They made a goofy rib in an amateur way, and they built a 600 Nitro Express on it. Lots of other non-computes. It’s a modern reproduction label that has been tea-bagged to give it appearance of age. The other label may or may not be original to some portion of the gun, but it’s weird. Original 600NE would have been way better built, and of course it would have been 100gr 110gr of CORDITE, yet the maker’s label talks of pattern at 40 yards (shotgun) and prescribes Curtis & Harvey powder (thats black powder).

Just all kinds of wrong.

W&C Scott 600 Nitro Express double rifle

W&C Scott 600 Nitro Express double rifle for sale online.

www.gunsinternational.com

Sale pending on this rifle…

 

[Daniel Cary]

"Sale pending on almost Everything."

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

Could this one be a “deal” considering the maker and assuming the dollar figure is in Canadian currency?

Ellwood Epps Sporting Goods

Online shopping in Canada for hunting supplies, new and used firearms and bows, rare gun parts and obsolete ammunition. A great selection of fishing, camping and shooting supplies in our Orillia stores, north of Barrie, Ontario.

ellwoodepps.com

If it’s not TOO costly to import?

 

[Rare Breed]

Could this one be a “deal” considering the maker and assuming the dollar figure is in Canadian currency?

Ellwood Epps Sporting Goods

Online shopping in Canada for hunting supplies, new and used firearms and bows, rare gun parts and obsolete ammunition. A great selection of fishing, camping and shooting supplies in our Orillia stores, north of Barrie, Ontario.

ellwoodepps.com

If it’s not TOO costly to import?

The cost to export from Canada to US on this gun would be about $1100. The problem is the time it takes for me not the money

 

[Aaron N]

Could this one be a “deal” considering the maker and assuming the dollar figure is in Canadian currency?

Ellwood Epps Sporting Goods

Online shopping in Canada for hunting supplies, new and used firearms and bows, rare gun parts and obsolete ammunition. A great selection of fishing, camping and shooting supplies in our Orillia stores, north of Barrie, Ontario.

ellwoodepps.com

If it’s not TOO costly to import?

The cost to export from Canada to US on this gun would be about $1100. The problem is the time it takes for me not the money

It’s a month to six weeks depending on where you hit the export cycle, and $250. It’s not a scary process at all, I’ve done it numerous times in reverse.

You are being redirected...

That’s the import link to the US, I’m not sure why the name is odd

 

[Wahoo]

I’ve looked into it and by my understanding I was much closer to @Rare Breed numbers. That was using border view I believe. Can you elaborate on your process as that’s pretty attractive $ to import.

 

[krish]

@Aaron N
Did you sell your 505G.
Krish