Cartridges you just hate

[HWL]

I love the 10.75x68 because most hate it. Its been fun.

I love it so much, that one was not enough!

HWL

 

[Cheesehead]

Interesting. I don’t care for 300WinMag for essentially the same reason. Winchester abandoned the 300H&H for their own proprietary cartridge.

My issue with the 300 win mag is that I don't think it is a very good design. The case is relatively long with a short neck, as if it was designed for shooting lightweight bullets. It seems to be optimized for 150-165 grain bullets. With these lightweight bullets I don't think it does anything that the 30-06 already does at normal ranges. If a person wants to shoot that bullet weight at very long range, stepping down to the 7mm Rem mag or 264 win mag would yield better BC and SD.

It should be the same 2.5" case length as the other Winchester Magnums, with a longer neck and shoulder set further back, more suitable for shooting 200-220 grain bullets. That is where its case capacity would allow the 300 to separate from the 30-06 and 7mm mag.

On an unrelated note, there are some cartridges that are pretty great but have what I think are stupid names. A couple of these are the 25-06 and 338-06. They make sense. Everyone knows the "06" in 30-06 stands for 1906, when it was standardized. We'll neither the 25-06 or 338-06 were invented in 1906 or 2006. This is just a feeble attempt to tie these obscure cartridges to their legendary parent. Give them a unique name and let them stand on their own merits, like the 270 winchester, 280 remington, or 35 whelen. The worst offender in this regard has to be the 7mm-08. Talk about nonsensical.

 

[ftrovato]

I haven't used their rifles. I don't believe in cramming every last bit of powder into a case and trying to throw a small bullet as fast as it possibly can go. It's the classic argument between bullet velocity vs sectional density. I am in the school that a bullet that is loaded heavy for caliber, with good BC, is far better than a bullet travelling 3,300 FPS.

Sensible. I've always been an Elmer Keith fan. But must admit that premium bullets these days have swayed me from time to time to the other side.

 

[Vashper]

So, Creedmoor 6.5, Bud Light, what else?