Big Bore Addiction Group

[ActionBob]

New cars and pickup trucks are some of the poorest "buys" in our economy. Looking at the price of a washer and drier, for equal features and options, they are cheaper than they were 30 years ago. Yes cars are way better than they were 30 years ago and are loaded with new comfort and safety features... But the prices are astronomically higher! The cost of manufacturing a car is about half of what they sell it for. The rest goes towards advertising, sales commissions, bonus', etc. and then on top of it, a couple companies have been so miss-managed they needed government bailouts!

And don't get me going on the lease schemes! I spent a considerable part of an afternoon negotiating with the new salesman/just out of college/son of the dealership's owner and when we finally had a deal worked out.. He pulled out the "plan" (read;scheme) and tried to talk me into a lease... I brought in my laptop and the amortizations of a loan were such a better deal it was a no brainer... So when I pressed him on why he had insisted the lease was the only way to go... His answer was that "well you figured the loan off the price we negotiated, when we do a lease it is off this number in fine print here on the corner of the invoice". WTF Why had we spent all the time negotiating a price to have it revert back to a "plan" price that was higher than the original full list?! Buyer beware

I applaud anyone getting as much as they can out of their cars and not falling into the "new paint" trap.

 

[Bullthrower338]

New cars and pickup trucks are some of the poorest "buys" in our economy. Looking at the price of a washer and drier, for equal features and options, they are cheaper than they were 30 years ago. Yes cars are way better than they were 30 years ago and are loaded with new comfort and safety features... But the prices are astronomically higher! The cost of manufacturing a car is about half of what they sell it for. The rest goes towards advertising, sales commissions, bonus', etc. and then on top of it, a couple companies have been so miss-managed they needed government bailouts!

And don't get me going on the lease schemes! I spent a considerable part of an afternoon negotiating with the new salesman/just out of college/son of the dealership's owner and when we finally had a deal worked out.. He pulled out the "plan" (read;scheme) and tried to talk me into a lease... I brought in my laptop and the amortizations of a loan were such a better deal it was a no brainer... So when I pressed him on why he had insisted the lease was the only way to go... His answer was that "well you figured the loan off the price we negotiated, when we do a lease it is off this number in fine print here on the corner of the invoice". WTF Why had we spent all the time negotiating a price to have it revert back to a "plan" price that was higher than the original full list?! Buyer beware

I applaud anyone getting as much as they can out of their cars and not falling into the "new paint" trap.

I'd drive my 72 bronco everywhere if I could! My 2012 power stroke has 175k on it already. She should last a few more years. I don't think my ass and back could take that many miles in the bronco though! Lol.

 

[ActionBob]

Hey now we have this thread properly hijacked! But what the heck, it is page 18!

Wow Bthrow, my 2011 only has 160k.... And I thought I drove a lot! I'm also fortunate to have a fiscally responsible wife. She is approaching 300k on her Expedition, but she does have a new Jeep for regular use... Of course we'd really have a lot of hunt money if we drove things that got better mileage and put the fuel savings towards the hunt pot! But then when I get 3 hours from home and need to pull or haul something, I would need my pickup truck and be pissed if I did not have it.

 

[ActionBob]

Just to clear it up before someone asks.. and to get back on track.... The "new paint trap" is completely different that the "new gun opportunity". And guns don't depreciate like trucks and with a little care don't rust out and fall apart like cars... So they are "investments", not expenses.... At least that is my story and I'm sticking to it!

 

[Royal27]

Just to clear it up before someone asks.. and to get back on track.... The "new paint trap" is completely different that the "new gun opportunity". And guns don't depreciate like trucks and with a little care don't rust out and fall apart like cars... So they are "investments", not expenses.... At least that is my story and I'm sticking to it!

If only I could get the wife to beleve that!!!!

 

[ActionBob]

Royal;
You simply have to explain the whole "good investment" and "deal of a lifetime" and "gotta have because... " lines properly. And there are always the offers to get yourself a gift you can really use for birthdays/Christmas/anniversary/Halloween or whatever else you can come up.

And if all else fails... Just remember sometimes it is easier to beg forgiveness than ask for permission!

 

[Royal27]

Royal;
You simply have to explain the whole "good investment" and "deal of a lifetime" and "gotta have because... " lines properly. And there are always the offers to get yourself a gift you can really use for birthdays/Christmas/anniversary/Halloween or whatever else you can come up.

And if all else fails... Just remember sometimes it is easier to beg forgiveness than ask for permission!

I just explained why an 8 lb can of powder was a better deal than a 1 lb can of powder to her last night.... with Nancy the insanity plea works at times too. If it sounds nutty enough she just shakes her head and walks off.

 

[Bullthrower338]

That's the one I like Royal, annoy them into submission! I got a hell of a deal on AK ammo one time, planned delivery so I would be home to stash it away, then got hung up on a project and missed the delivery. Our house keeper unloaded all the ammo crates and stacked them in the entryway of the house. When the wicked witch of the southwest got home she called me irate, wanting to know why there were X number of cases of ammo in the middle of the hall I told her that was all they had! She hung up on me! Lol. Perfect

 

[Royal27]

Just make sure the boxes are big.... the most trouble I ever got in was the delivery of a 5000 brick of .22 lr. In a little bitty box. She almost jerked her shoulder out of socket picking it up!

 

[Bullthrower338]

Just make sure the boxes are big.... the most trouble I ever got in was the delivery of a 5000 brick of .22 lr. In a little bitty box. She almost jerked her shoulder out of socket picking it up!

LMAO, poor thing, but it is hilarious! Takes a special woman to put up with the likes of us, prolly be easier for them to marry a guy that is into flowers or whatever guys do that don't hunt.

 

[ActionBob]

Yea ya gotta go big! Real Big.

Then the little stuff (like new guns and even hunting trips) can slide through with a lot less commotion..... When we were discussing possible outcomes for the dilemma of what to do with my elephant tusks that are currently not importable... I was listing off all the possibilities, first we get the best replicas made we can. In fact why not two sets as the mold will be paid for anyway? That way we can have a set in the entry hall and get a replica shoulder mount and use one set for that.... Ok she wants to say that is overboard but I quickly move into, of course we will need to build a big enough retirement house at the lake to hold up a large enough trophy room for an elephant mount... Now her mouth is opening and the fire is being stoked in her eyes.... So I quickly go into the explanations that USFW is going to be reviewing that import ban and there does exist a possibility of them lifting it retroactively ,she pauses to contemplate that giving me an opportunity to throw in the "and of course if they don't, I'll for sure have to go hunt another, hopefully larger, elephant that is importable"...... "And if all else fails, we will just have to buy another retirement home in a warmer climate and in a country that allows importation of the ivory..." At that point, she rolls her eyes and walks away.

Now the case of ammo that just got delivered and the new gun I'm checking on don't even register!

 

[Bullthrower338]

ActionBob,
You sir are professional. I will save that lesson for the next honey badger to domicile in my compound! The last one just couldn't deal with my wit and charm, or her boyfriend didn't like my trophy room, what ever! Lol

 

[AZDAVE]

Royal The other option is that you just buy her a rifle and put it in a nice (her favorite color) laminated thumbhole stock and while she is very happy; Then you happen to mention that you found a great deal on ??? double rifle you need and all is good I put a ruger 338 rcm (Still waiting for the 9.3 barrel for the 9.3x62 I am building her) in a stock that matches her 7x57 for her backup on next May's safari and she shot the thing better than her 7x57. Do believe that I just lost my little RCM. But did send the ruger RMS action to Pac-nor and will have my 404 Jeffery back sometime in FEB 2015.

 

[Timt]

So I thought I would do a bit of a range report.

Just got the base and the red dot for my Krieghoff 470NE double and went out to zero it and see how it handled with the new sights.

Mounted the Aimpoint micro at home and while its prettier without a reddot it doesn't look all that bad in my opinion.

Out to the range and zeroed it @ 45m. Its 1" low at 20 and spot on at 45 and 80 m.

Not a bad day on the range and I'm loving the red dot!

80m shoot with the aimpoint below. Each square is 0.6cm.

 

[spike.t]

that is a nicely regulated double

 

[Timt]

Yeah I'm pretty happy with the regulation.
Fun part is that Krieghoff regulated it with Norma PH solids but it regulates better with the Norma PH softs... Same poi with both but the softs are 100% in height and it looks like two side by side barrel holes at 50m. With the solids there is about 1/2 to 1" difference in height between the two barrels.

 

[spike.t]

Timt that isnt anything to worry about, even that slight height difference isnt a problem at the distances you would be shooting solids out of a .470 at

 

[enysse]

Not that I own a double rifle, but I think that is great accuracy, I would not be worried about it all.

 

[Royal27]

That would be one dead <insert large animal name here>!

 

[TokkieM]

Timmy I pity those Polish Wild Boar this week, that is a pretty large hole