Any South Africans Considering Relocating to US

[kman]

I highly doubt South Africans would enjoy six solid months of winter, but good Lord we could use their kind in Vermont as farmers, outdoorsmen, and gun lovers.

I could point the way to some available old dairy farms if any were interested.

And if any were keen to take a look around, they’d be welcome to visit our farm.

Especially this winter! We could definitely use some hard working ppl in this state to help is pay for all the non working….

 

[gbflyer]

Especially this winter! We could definitely use some hard working ppl in this state to help is pay for all the non working….

I’m in Alaska. Our Afrikaans wears shorts every day year around haha.

 

[Wishfulthinker580]

There was an old non pc Afrikaans saying which roughly translated would be: rather a king in a land of peasants than a peasant in a land of kings.

I believe the quality of life that most farmers enjoy in SA far exceeds what they would have in the US. The average US citizen is much wealthier than the average South African. But the average farmer in SA is much wealthier than their average countrymen and I believe much wealthier here than they would be in the US, relatively speaking.

I am sure there will be some who will take the opportunity on offer but I do not believe the mass exodus that a few have predicted on this side will take place.

In spite of our many challenges SA is still a very good place to live.

Trump has just announced a fast track to citizenship for RSA farmers! I don't know if I like this. We don't want RSA to become Zim. We need good people over there for the stability of the country. We all love Africa and want to see it get better!
That said I welcome anyone that loves hunting to the US!

Agreed. The capital required to start a real farming operation in the US would be insurmountable for most. I would imagine. Also, brain drains are no good for a country. At least while there’s still hope for change. Losing one of the most industrious demographics is a huge negative

 

[Nyati]

One of my former PH´s immigrated to Texas, he is an irrigation technician.

He had a good life in RSA, but was worried about the future for his children.

 

[WAB]

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One of my former PH´s immigrated to Texas, he is an irrigation technician.

He had a good life in RSA, but was worried about the future for his children.

I’ll bet he’s good. South Africans use an Israeli irrigation technology extensively. We use the same technology, we’re
Just not as good at it as they are. It must be that Dutch heritage.

 

[Borderer]

There are a lot in the Scottish Borders as well. Just with people we deal with, the manager of the local farm supplies place, two self employed foresters / farm workers, the pharmacist, an estate agent (realtor) a teacher in the local school and two agricultural valuers are all from Zimbabwe or South Africa (mainly Natal midlands) Most had a crime incident that pushed them to go but all miss home. I find it very sad. Their children will grow up Scottish and loose their parents’ culture.

They all have a family link to this area, but often 200 years ago.

 

[lionofluangwa]

As a born and bred Texan, I have many South African friends and several that now hold their US citizenship. I would welcome all my SA brothers into the US along with their friends and family. What a great bunch of hard working and honest folks that love the outdoors in my opinion.

 

[mooze]

Our church in Australia was almost 100% EX-SAF'ers.

I have met a few in America, but not heaps. There are actually quite a few here in Germany.

there are a lot of SA family docs in Canada, in some areas 20-30 % of all GPs ( rural SK, ALTA, BC),so many actually, that Canada can't advertise jobs in SA anymore as it is considered a country in need.

 

[shark_za]

I’m in Alaska. Our Afrikaans wears shorts every day year around haha.

You know its really cold when the Afrikaner wears two pairs of shorts.

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

There was an old non pc Afrikaans saying which roughly translated would be: rather a king in a land of peasants than a peasant in a land of kings.

I believe the quality of life that most farmers enjoy in SA far exceeds what they would have in the US. The average US citizen is much wealthier than the average South African. But the average farmer in SA is much wealthier than their average countrymen and I believe much wealthier here than they would be in the US, relatively speaking.

I am sure there will be some who will take the opportunity on offer but I do not believe the mass exodus that a few have predicted on this side will take place.

In spite of our many challenges SA is still a very good place to live.

@Piet Brood
We have a few sour African friends here in Australia but they weren't farmers, also a few non farming friend from Zimbabwe.
All absolutely beautiful people that I am happy to call friends.
Bob

 

[Bob Nelson 35Whelen]

There are a lot in the Scottish Borders as well. Just with people we deal with, the manager of the local farm supplies place, two self employed foresters / farm workers, the pharmacist, an estate agent (realtor) a teacher in the local school and two agricultural valuers are all from Zimbabwe or South Africa (mainly Natal midlands) Most had a crime incident that pushed them to go but all miss home. I find it very sad. Their children will grow up Scottish and loose their parents’ culture.

They all have a family link to this area, but often 200 years ago.

@Borderer
Just because you move country doesn't always mean you loose your culture. You can still maintain your cultural heritage and also the adopt the new culture of your country.
In Australia we have many cultures and cultural festivals that allow people to both celebrate their culture and give people a chance to understand that culture. The are great times.
Even schools have cultural programs so the kids can understand and embrace other cultures.
One school in my area even has a day where children from ALL cultures being food to school to share with fellow students. It's a great idea to promote understanding of people from different places.
Problem is some of these cultures being their problems and crimes as well. It is only a small minority but it can tarnish a while culture unfortunately.
Culture is passed from generation to generation and as parents it is our responsibility to keep that culture alive as well as embracing the culture of our new country.
Enough ramblings about culture tho.
Australia at the moment is trying to drastically reduce immigration. We just haven't got the resources to maintain it.
Bob

 

[steve white]

If there is a purge of the white farmers, etc. I hope they go scorched earth when they leave, and nobody gives SA anything but grief afterwards!! Was hoping Trump would help defend them!!

 

[leslie hetrick]

on my six hunting trips to africa from 2013 to 2019, i hunted on many farms and i think if the farms are handed over to the blacks starvation will follow in short order. i,m not a racest, but a realest.

 

[steve white]

on my six hunting trips to africa from 2013 to 2019, i hunted on many farms and i think if the farms are handed over to the blacks starvation will follow in short order. i,m not a racest, but a realest.

A PH was driving me by Landcruiser out to Dande South in Zimbabwe when he decided to pull over at a small collection of huts beside the road. "How are things going?" Fine. "Crops look good." Yeah, we're happy we got rain. "Why don't you plant all those hundreds of acres out there?" We don't need that much. "What about all the people in the cities that used to depend upon the wheat crop, before the land was taken from the white farmers?" THEY'RE NOT MY TRIBE. End of story...
The PH was trying to teach me a lesson. His example was very succinct. BTW, they also shot off every bit of the game that had been there in abundance. This was about halfway between the airport and Dande around 1999.

 

[Odinsraven]

Quite a few have taken the Russian residency option. .seems to be better

 

[Muskox]

Quite a few have taken the Russian residency option. .seems to be better

There are a lot of Americans that moved to rural Russia in the past 10 years. Even a guy on YouTube that moved there after Covid.

We had an Orthodox priest move to Russia and he is living in rural Russia teaching English and farming. He is doing well for himself.

 

[Zambezi]

Unfortunately taking only the farmers from SA will result in SA imploding and communism and crime soaring to obscene levels. When hunger and unemployment skyrocket crime is going to be the order of the day. Then who do the masses turn to? The one that promises them bread even though that one knows he can't deliver it. Enter Julius Malema and his ilk.

The Trump offer WILL lead to the death of SA. What happens to all those lovely white folk (like my family) who are not farmers but can/could be dispossessed of their homes and businesses? They will have severely reduced job opportunities, have to contend with rampant crime, little in the way of food produced domestically as well as the threat of losing property without compensation.

It was the way in Zambia in the late 60's, 70's and 80's... it was the way in Zimbabwe in the 80's, 90's and 00's... this farmer drain will lead to it happening it SA. With one big difference, the hatred the black African has for whites in SA was never such an issue north of the Limpopo.

I've always said that there may be around 5 million whites from Cape to Cairo and the ancestral countries (as well as USA and Australia) could easily absorb every one of them and be largely better off for it.

The whites are kept in Africa only to benefit the corporations based in Africa.

This is the beginning of the end.

 

[steve white]

@ Zambezi: I was largely of the opinion that only SA and Namibia were holding things together for about five surrounding countries, through SA employment, trade, expertise, overlapping transportation abilities, power production, etc etc. If SA goes the way of Zimbabwe, what will happen to the surrounding economies?
In a way asking, who is competent to be the regional leader, economic fallback? Dismal is a word that comes to mind...especially applied to game populations/hunting accessibility. Sooner or later, some of the "leaders" are going to need to be given a thrashing to show them that things can't be allowed to go down the rat hole as they often did after de-colonization. Bailing bad leadership out of responsibility for man made famine only perpetuates the problem. People rising up and demanding better is curtailed by misplaced foreign aid, IMO. (and I have done a lot of do-gooding in my time, some I look back upon proudly, and some that in hindsight might well have been skipped altogether.)