A thorough conversation with Swarovski - Conclusion: Rookhawk knows nothing and is wrong about everything

[Beck]

also I gotta tel you, if you haven't looked at a Meopta lately you're making a mistake - not quite a swarovski, but very close

 

[WAB]

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That descibes hunting in Alabama and Mississippi for deer and hogs perfectly.

Agreed. It’s quite a shock when you see a buck in full light.

 

[Hunting Hitman]

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Boy, they sure are going to be disappointed I took my binos with me to Afghanistan...

SAVAGE!…I love it.

HH

 

[One Day...]

Yes, @One Day... had a very detailed explanation of all this in one of his posts on a thread but I can't remember which one.

The formula is simple: the diameter of light beam coming out of the ocular = the diameter of the objective / (divided by) the magnification.

56 mm objective / 8 magnification = 7 mm light beam through the ocular
42 mm objective / 6 magnification = 7 mm light beam through the ocular
24 mm objective / 3.5 magnification = 7 mm light beam through the ocular

7 mm is the maximum size the human pupil can dilate at dusk or dawn.

3 mm is the typical human pupil size in full sunlight. This is why a 1-8 x 24 DG scope works in full daylight (24 mm objective / 8 magnification = 3 mm light beam through the ocular), but why it must be cranked down to ~3x at dusk or dawn.

This is why typical European variable, when science still has something to do with product design, were 1.5-6x42 (standard optic for stalking); 2-8x56 (specialized optic for dawn or dusk - and sometimes night - stand hunting; 125-4x20 (typical for driven wild board and DG); etc.

 

[Yukontom]

I agree, they would do themselves a credit to get a fixed 4x and practice.

First of all I don't think we (the majority of us anyway) should shoot at game much past 400 yards and rarely at that. But we do have rifles that are capable, and I have pulled it off. I think WAB was amazed that anyone would bother dialing a turret at that range which I also agree with. So I guess this means we don't really need turrets for hunting if we know our rifle and practice. New shooters today however seem to maybe be caught up in the technology and like dials and buttons to play with. Us old school folks seem to like the KISS principal. And also see beauty and elegance in simplicity.

 

[V.Veritas]

7 mm is the maximum size the human pupil can dilate at dusk or dawn.

Also, with aging the pupil flexibility decreases and after 50 years of age rarely can dilate over 5mm. So it can't use all the light beam that a younger eye can.

 

[Yukontom]

"POS Leupod"........wow.......

Almost every big game animal I have successfully hunted has been with a Leupold scope. I started that way about 50 plus years ago and never found a reason to change. I do however have a beat up pair of Swarovski binos that have been around the world in the last 20 years plus and are still awesome.