9.3x62 where is it not legal?

[Luvthunt]

Pretty good Forrest

 

[Forrest Halley]

Pretty good Forrest

Why thank you, we endeavor to amuse...

 

[TOBY458]

Alas he had brought one to this place, but the customs boys had to open the case. They kicked and juggled it 'round their base, then closed it back without a trace. Imagine the look upon his face, when the front sight was missing and lost in space. So when the time it came to be, he shot the buff with the 9.3. The difference made remains unseen, for the sight was lacking on his four sixteen.

My extra gun was a three seven five. It's the only way I came back alive.
For if I were using a 9.3, that heyena would've made a meal out of me.

This year I'll use a four five eight. Unless I'm shooting Leopard bait.
And then I'll use a two four three. Cause even it kills better than a 9.3.
LOL!

 

[Backyardsniper]

y'all are good. Ha ha

 

[Bonk]

Doesn't the 9.3 have a 100+ year resume killing everything in Africa? From what I've read it's been regularly used to dispatch all the Big 5(7) and all the large plains game. Anecdotes abound about when things have gone wrong but that's true of every caliber. Most of the time the problem is poor shooting and I doubt a poorly placed shot with a 375H&H will be any more effective than a poorly placed 9.3x62. I realize we're discussing legalities rather than practicalities but I've often wondered why they drew the line at 375 when the 9.3 is in practical terms the same thing.

 

[Forrest Halley]

My extra gun was a three seven five. It's the only way I came back alive.
For if I were using a 9.3, that heyena would've made a meal out of me.

This year I'll use a four five eight. Unless I'm shooting Leopard bait.
And then I'll use a two four three. Cause even it kills better than a 9.3.
LOL!

I see you'll carry a two-four-three. That fact sits just fine with me. Though it may make Australian throats close tight, choking on their Vegemite. Their bullets bounce off like a wall, for two-five-seven rules them all. In valiant effort to set you right, he'll bounce it like the customs bright. In final act to save your fate, he'll bore it out to three-five-eight. For if two-four-three afield you take, an Aussie heart you're sure to break. If ill fated luck your rifle should bring, you'll fertilize toe-mah-toes in the spring!

 

[WAB]

Doesn't the 9.3 have a 100+ year resume killing everything in Africa? From what I've read it's been regularly used to dispatch all the Big 5(7) and all the large plains game. Anecdotes abound about when things have gone wrong but that's true of every caliber. Most of the time the problem is poor shooting and I doubt a poorly placed shot with a 375H&H will be any more effective than a poorly placed 9.3x62. I realize we're discussing legalities rather than practicalities but I've often wondered why they drew the line at 375 when the 9.3 is in practical terms the same thing.

Probably because the English won the war, not the Germans.

 

[TOBY458]

I see you'll carry a two-four-three. That fact sits just fine with me. Though it may make Australian throats close tight, choking on their Vegemite. Their bullets bounce off like a wall, for two-five-seven rules them all. In valiant effort to set you right, he'll bounce it like the customs bright. In final act to save your fate, he'll bore it out to three-five-eight. For if two-four-three afield you take, an Aussie heart you're sure to break. If ill fated luck your rifle should bring, you'll fertilize toe-mah-toes in the spring!

If I hit them right between the eyes, the toe-mah-toes won't get fertilized. I'll live to hunt another day. To face down beasts that I will slay.
But if one day I get to heaven, it will be because the two five seven, failed to stop an angry doe. I'll wish I had my ole two fo.

 

[Forrest Halley]

But if one day I get to heaven, it will be because of my two five seven. It failed to stop an angry d-o-e, who then danced a jig on top of me. I'll pray to whatever gods may be and wish I'd carried my two-four-three.

It's like a battle of the ballistic bards!

 

[PerH]

In the 9,3x62 Journal book which is full of buffalo hunt reports with 9,3 ,on page 236 and 248 contact details of 2 outfitters you might want to contact

 

[Slider]

I always thought the Minimum Caliber in Zim was .375? You might get by with a 9.3 which is .366 but I would never risk it!!!

 

[WAB]

I always thought the Minimum Caliber in Zim was .375? You might get by with a 9.3 which is .366 but I would never risk it!!!

That is not correct. The min caliber is .366. Te 9.3x62 is legal if you load to meet the energy requirements.

 

[Nhoro]

That is not correct. The min caliber is .366. Te 9.3x62 is legal if you load to meet the energy requirements.

Actually there are 3 categories in Zimbabwe for DG. Elephant, buffalo and hippo minimum calibre is 9,2 mm or .362 and energy is 5,3 kJ. Not sure why the odd calibre but i assume they were trying to keep out the 338 to 350 magnums for elephant.And you are correct that the 9,3 x 62 is legal with handloads as well as a couple of factory loads. Schedule b for lion is 7 mm and 4.3 kJ and leopard is 7 mm and 3 kJ. So you can shoot DG with a 7x57.

Interestingly the 9,3 and the 375 flanged straddle the energy requirements- some loads make elephant / buffalo and some do not.

 

[Nhoro]

In my opinion, you should just use a 375 h&h as your practical minimum on buffalo up. I dont think it kicks much more than a 9,3 and has a whole bunch of advantages. If you had to use a 9,3, it will work and can be made to be legal but you will be pushing reloading boundaries and you could have ejection issues.

 

[WAB]

In my opinion, you should just use a 375 h&h as your practical minimum on buffalo up. I dont think it kicks much more than a 9,3 and has a whole bunch of advantages. If you had to use a 9,3, it will work and can be made to be legal but you will be pushing reloading boundaries and you could have ejection issues.

Todays powders do it easily without pressure issues. This is not to take away from the .375, I won’t part with mine, but the 9.3 is a valid option and a lot of misinformation is out there regarding its use. From a practical standpoint, my wife hammered her buffalo with our 9.3x62. Although my Lott would have likely flattened it on the spot, there’s no way my .375 would have hit it any harder. The 9.3 is a valid contender for buffalo where legal.

 

[Nhoro]

Todays powders do it easily without pressure issues. This is not to take away from the .375, I won’t part with mine, but the 9.3 is a valid option and a lot of misinformation is out there regarding its use. From a practical standpoint, my wife hammered her buffalo with our 9.3x62. Although my Lott would have likely flattened it on the spot, there’s no way my .375 would have hit it any harder. The 9.3 is a valid contender for buffalo where legal.

The 286 gr bullet has to be running at about 2505 fps to make the required energy figures. Reloaders have told me that it can be done but you are pushing the envelope. However factory ammo will drop a buffalo- I have no doubt. But you don't want to play with the legal system in Africa. My advice is to use a 375 h&h. No one will ask any questions and you can have a happy holiday with a smile on your face.

 

[TOBY458]

My question is, how in the world is anyone going to know how fast your handloads are shooting? Do you just write the ballistics on the ammo box? In the same vein, you could load any cartridge down below the minimum threshold, and they wouldn't know that either. So I guess it's all based on honesty, where energy requirements are concerned.

 

[Puddle]

I question pulling off 5,300J ME with a 285/286 gr. bullet, factory ammo or handload. 5,400J ME? I'd like to personally see that.

I simply handload the 300 grain A-Frame with a medium burning powder. Reaching 5,300J ME AND staying within specified chamber pressures is accomplished. I use H4350. Using H4350 my rifle and ammo don't really care what the ambient temperature is.

 

[medvedhunting]

there is no practical difference in the killing of a buffalo using a 9.3 or a .375 with a good bullet.

 

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Craig Boddington Claims a 9.3mm is NOT Legal on private Land in Zim for Dangerous Game?