Wild Lion Hunt

I have my go to PH Zane Bronkhorst looking for a deal currently , but he is busy chasing wild things. I thought I could expand my search to the AH community to see if you have any leads on a quality area that may have need to fill a tag this year? I can usually travel last minute if any opportunity ( cancellation ) arises .

It would have to be exportable to the US . I’m wanting to be in the $50,000 daily and trophy fees range. Add on being bait animal’s export ext . Would like to use Zane as my PH if possible if he is available.

I’ve done a captive bred lion hunt and had a great experience. Just something about hearing a wild lion while your sitting around a fire that is extremely special. Even more so when you’re sitting in a leopard blind with nothing but a pillow for protection in your arms as they advance on your location! A story for another time !

Thanks in advance for any help or suggestions!

Scott

I've been reading this thread and was struggling on whether to respond at all or just let it go. I'm also trying to craft a response that is very careful to avoid casting aspersions.

A quick trip down memory lane: The official narrative is that Theo Bronkhorst was the PH that presided over Walter Palmer's hunt of Cecil the Lion. There was a presumption of innocence, but it didn't stop the antis, many of which monitor this forum for purposes of creating a grand spectacle of the whole ordeal.

During the PH of record's detention and subsequently after he was out on bond, a second accusation was cast against Theo Bronkhorst that he was smuggling Sable from RSA to Zimbabwe.

In the end, Theo Bronkhorst and Walter Palmer's charges were dropped by a Zimbabwean judge.

Rumors are just that, worthless rumors, but in Zimbabwe the common rumor is that Zane Bronkhorst was the actual PH on the aforementioned hunt and his father tried to take the fall for him rather than have his son's reputation ruined. I have no reason to believe this rumor but there is a reason I'm repeating it here that has a point.

Your post suggested hunting lion with a Bronkhorst PH by name in a country where there is ambiguity as to whether there is quota. It is likely that resale of quota would occur, and it is likely that a legal means of allowing him to PH would occur.

The leftists and antis would relish the opportunity to ruin your and their lives with a "here we go again" story line. You posted a convoluted hunt on a public forum that virtually guarantees a scandal, that's how the antis operate. They will start calling in reports of poaching and criminal activity and the media will immediately indict you and them in the court of public opinion. You could be detained. You're unlikely to ever get your lion imported. You're likely to have your life ruined. The Bronkhorsts are likely to have their lives ruined yet again.

A.) Don't discuss your PH of preference and lion hunting on a public forum, you've virtually guaranteed you're going to have troubles from antis and the media.

B.) It's never good practice to import a PH into another country to conduct a hunt. It may be legal, but the optics are not good for any of you.

C.) Discretion is the better part of valor and you've lost all discretion via your post.

In closing, I have no reason to believe any rumors above hold any merit, I have every reason to believe all the parties above were 100% in the right as affirmed by a judge dismissing all charges. I only bring this topic up because this thread is going to come back to bite you, the hunting public, the operator, and the PH in the ass big-time if you move forward. Your indiscretion undermined your ability to enjoy a legal hunt without harassment by very sick, twisted people and the media.
 
I've been reading this thread and was struggling on whether to respond at all or just let it go. I'm also trying to craft a response that is very careful to avoid casting aspersions.

A quick trip down memory lane: The official narrative is that Theo Bronkhorst was the PH that presided over Walter Palmer's hunt of Cecil the Lion. There was a presumption of innocence, but it didn't stop the antis, many of which monitor this forum for purposes of creating a grand spectacle of the whole ordeal.

During the PH of record's detention and subsequently after he was out on bond, a second accusation was cast against Theo Bronkhorst that he was smuggling Sable from RSA to Zimbabwe.

In the end, Theo Bronkhorst and Walter Palmer's charges were dropped by a Zimbabwean judge.

Rumors are just that, worthless rumors, but in Zimbabwe the common rumor is that Zane Bronkhorst was the actual PH on the aforementioned hunt and his father tried to take the fall for him rather than have his son's reputation ruined. I have no reason to believe this rumor but there is a reason I'm repeating it here that has a point.

Your post suggested hunting lion with a Bronkhorst PH by name in a country where there is ambiguity as to whether there is quota. It is likely that resale of quota would occur, and it is likely that a legal means of allowing him to PH would occur.

The leftists and antis would relish the opportunity to ruin your and their lives with a "here we go again" story line. You posted a convoluted hunt on a public forum that virtually guarantees a scandal, that's how the antis operate. They will start calling in reports of poaching and criminal activity and the media will immediately indict you and them in the court of public opinion. You could be detained. You're unlikely to ever get your lion imported. You're likely to have your life ruined. The Bronkhorsts are likely to have their lives ruined yet again.

A.) Don't discuss your PH of preference and lion hunting on a public forum, you've virtually guaranteed you're going to have troubles from antis and the media.

B.) It's never good practice to import a PH into another country to conduct a hunt. It may be legal, but the optics are not good for any of you.

C.) Discretion is the better part of valor and you've lost all discretion via your post.

In closing, I have no reason to believe any rumors above hold any merit, I have every reason to believe all the parties above were 100% in the right as affirmed by a judge dismissing all charges. I only bring this topic up because this thread is going to come back to bite you, the hunting public, the operator, and the PH in the ass big-time if you move forward. Your indiscretion undermined your ability to enjoy a legal hunt without harassment by very sick, twisted people and the media.
Thanks for your post . Zane was only to be the PH if possible and only in Zimbabwe and only if his schedule permitted. None of which meet this criteria.

Sorry for the confusion on this end .
 
I've been reading this thread and was struggling on whether to respond at all or just let it go. I'm also trying to craft a response that is very careful to avoid casting aspersions.

A quick trip down memory lane: The official narrative is that Theo Bronkhorst was the PH that presided over Walter Palmer's hunt of Cecil the Lion. There was a presumption of innocence, but it didn't stop the antis, many of which monitor this forum for purposes of creating a grand spectacle of the whole ordeal.

During the PH of record's detention and subsequently after he was out on bond, a second accusation was cast against Theo Bronkhorst that he was smuggling Sable from RSA to Zimbabwe.

In the end, Theo Bronkhorst and Walter Palmer's charges were dropped by a Zimbabwean judge.

Rumors are just that, worthless rumors, but in Zimbabwe the common rumor is that Zane Bronkhorst was the actual PH on the aforementioned hunt and his father tried to take the fall for him rather than have his son's reputation ruined. I have no reason to believe this rumor but there is a reason I'm repeating it here that has a point.

Your post suggested hunting lion with a Bronkhorst PH by name in a country where there is ambiguity as to whether there is quota. It is likely that resale of quota would occur, and it is likely that a legal means of allowing him to PH would occur.

The leftists and antis would relish the opportunity to ruin your and their lives with a "here we go again" story line. You posted a convoluted hunt on a public forum that virtually guarantees a scandal, that's how the antis operate. They will start calling in reports of poaching and criminal activity and the media will immediately indict you and them in the court of public opinion. You could be detained. You're unlikely to ever get your lion imported. You're likely to have your life ruined. The Bronkhorsts are likely to have their lives ruined yet again.

A.) Don't discuss your PH of preference and lion hunting on a public forum, you've virtually guaranteed you're going to have troubles from antis and the media.

B.) It's never good practice to import a PH into another country to conduct a hunt. It may be legal, but the optics are not good for any of you.

C.) Discretion is the better part of valor and you've lost all discretion via your post.

In closing, I have no reason to believe any rumors above hold any merit, I have every reason to believe all the parties above were 100% in the right as affirmed by a judge dismissing all charges. I only bring this topic up because this thread is going to come back to bite you, the hunting public, the operator, and the PH in the ass big-time if you move forward. Your indiscretion undermined your ability to enjoy a legal hunt without harassment by very sick, twisted people and the media.
Also new to the forum so not sure what should and shouldn’t be shared will err on the side of discretion more forward. Again thanks for your message.
 
Also new to the forum so not sure what should and shouldn’t be shared will err on the side of discretion more forward. Again thanks for your message.

Unfortunately, the antis do monitor this forum. Two examples I know of involving hunts that were discussed on here prior to departure that went sideways:

1.) A crane operator in California went on a lawful hunt in Africa. The antis threw a fit. I believe they got him fired?

2.) A couple years ago one of the officers in SCI went to Zimbabwe for purposes of a lawful lion or elephant hunt. Before he even arrived at camp there were anonymous informants alleging an illegal hunt was in progress (the antis got the dates wrong). Discretion being the better part of valor, I believe the hunt was cancelled.

Lions are a sensitive topic that the PETA/HSUS antis cling to dearly. Don't say anything on this forum that provides enough facts where the antis could figure out your hunt dates, location, operator, and other details that would allow them to falsely report a crime in progress with specificity.
 
I could be wrong but I seem to remember @FARO EAST NORTH CAMEROON had very good pricing on lion hunts? Due to the fact that genetically they don’t have much of a mane, but you still get the experience
thx for thinking of us, but unfortunately our lions are not exportable to the US. However if anyone is looking for a LDE hunt I am your guy !
 
While I greatly respect @rookhawk
While I greatly respect @rookhawk his reply is a little over the top. If it had been me I would have done the exact same thing that the OP did with no fear I would be another Cecil. This forum is here for exactly what the OP did. With all due respect I don’t give a Fu!? what the antis think and I will not be cowed by them. To the OP you did absolutely nothing wrong here!!!!!
 
While I greatly respect @rookhawk his reply is a little over the top. If it had been me I would have done the exact same thing that the OP did with no fear I would be another Cecil. This forum is here for exactly what the OP did. With all due respect I don’t give a Fu!? what the antis think and I will not be cowed by them. To the OP you did absolutely nothing wrong here!!!!!

No insult taken. Every person has their perspective. I just want the OP to have a good, legal hunt without harassment or consequence.
 
While @rookhawk examples of people being fired is tragic I am my own boss so no fear of pressure impacting me…I simply don’t care. Each person on AH makes their own decision. If you work for a woke company and are in a vulnerable position then use your own judgement. One more time for me…Fu,! the antis
 
While I greatly respect @rookhawk his reply is a little over the top. If it had been me I would have done the exact same thing that the OP did with no fear I would be another Cecil. This forum is here for exactly what the OP did. With all due respect I don’t give a Fu!? what the antis think and I will not be cowed by them. To the OP you did absolutely nothing wrong here!!!!!
Over the top is an understatement, but he does have a point many of us over share on fully public forum. It’s not always the antis you should be concerned with either. There are red flags to me in a situation like this that would cause me to walk away. Not every outfitter and PH in hunting industry are friends. I do hope the OP has a good hunt though.
 
While @rookhawk examples of people being fired is tragic I am my own boss so no fear of pressure impacting me…I simply don’t care. Each person on AH makes their own decision. If you work for a woke company and are in a vulnerable position then use your own judgement. One more time for me…Fu,! the antis
On a lighter note I bought my brilliant beautiful wife a brand new Holland and Holland 375 for our upcoming elephant!
I started with a Heym 375 double but is a little to light for her thus a bit too much recoil .

So I will be carrying the awesome Rigby 470 NE you sold me and she will be sporting her new H&H !

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On a lighter note I bought my brilliant beautiful wife a brand new Holland and Holland 375 for our upcoming elephant!
I started with a Heym 375 double but is a little to light for her thus a bit too much recoil .

So I will be carrying the awesome Rigby 470 NE you sold me and she will be sporting her new H&H !

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Nobody ever regrets a high grade 375HH magazine rifle. Congrats! That rifle will get 5x-10x the use of any double rifle. (and I am a double rifle fan, but I speak honestly)
 
Nobody ever regrets a high grade 375HH magazine rifle. Congrats! That rifle will get 5x-10x the use of any double rifle. (and I am a double rifle fan, but I speak honestly)
But remember I bought it for my wife wink wink . I’m probably going to take it to Zambia as well . Might as well break it in and get it all scuffed up . Her initials will be forever engraved on it . She has beaten cancer twice and we are putting nothing off and want no regrets regardless of what the future holds!
 
But remember I bought it for my wife wink wink . I’m probably going to take it to Zambia as well . Might as well break it in and get it all scuffed up . Her initials will be forever engraved on it . She has beaten cancer twice and we are putting nothing off and want no regrets regardless of what the future holds!
Is that a 50mm objective on a .375?
 
Is that a 50mm objective on a .375?
Yes , It is was part of the package, will have to blame Guy at Holland and Holland but I like it ,has the H&H quick detachable bases . Will never be used to follow wounded game in that way , double rifles for that . We just had her measured to cut the stock . Had to have the trigger lightened, but was already sighted in . It’s heavy 10 lb 15 oz which is good very little recoil for my wife.
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Since others have asked I’m just repeating the question. I’m sure several on here would be interested.
Trophy fee in the omay is $25000
And Nyakasanga is $35000
 
Yes , It is was part of the package, will have to blame Guy at Holland and Holland but I like it ,has the H&H quick detachable bases . Will never be used to follow wounded game in that way , double rifles for that . We just had her measured to cut the stock . Had to have the trigger lightened, but was already sighted in . It’s heavy 10 lb 15 oz which is good very little recoil for my wife. View attachment 677548View attachment 677549
Guy is a really cool fellow. However he is European;)

Europeans seem to migrate towards those God awful huge objectives. Probably because of perceived advantages during night shooting, low light shooting, and driven shooting.

But to me nothing offsets the extra high mounting those big objectives require and the ensuing problems properly melding your face to the rifle.
 
Just for an update, I’ve connected @Rockwall205 with a well known Zambian PH who’s very familiar with that area and successfully hunted it in the past. He’s advised him of the challenges, best times to hunt, questions to ask the outfitter, etc so he can make a more informed decision
 

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