Who Needs A Scope On An Elephant Rifle?

[jacques smith]

I’m still kicking myself for not buying that Heym. Jacques

 

[TOBY458]

I’m still kicking myself for not buying that Heym. Jacques

And sometimes I kick myself for selling it!

 

[TOBY458]

Resurrecting this thread. Does anyone use an RMR on a Blaser R8? Just wondering if there's a mount available.

 

[Tanks]

Resurrecting this thread. Does anyone use an RMR on a Blaser R8? Just wondering if there's a mount available.

There is a Picatinny rail for the R8 and you can mount an RMR on it.

 

[TOBY458]

There is a Picatinny rail for the R8 and you can mount an RMR on it.

Yes. I saw those. Was hoping there's a qd style one piece mount that would be very compact. Looks like Trijicon makes one called the RM60. But, they're $250.00. But then again, nothing is cheap in R8 land.

 

[Dinsdale]

Yes. I saw those. Was hoping there's a qd style one piece mount that would be very compact. Looks like Trijicon makes one called the RM60. But, they're $250.00. But then again, nothing is cheap in R8 land.

Henneberger makes a QD one piece thats like a thin flat plate the optic screws right on, no extra pieces.

I have a Aimpoint H1 on their Blaser mount ; but they make them for all sorts of compact brand red dot optic.


Theres LOTS of European companies making Blaser mounts; MAK, Innogun,Gun Star just to name a few.

Titanium Gunworks in Germany is a dealer who really knows Blaser and can deal with specific Henneberger mounts for just about any brand optic. I think links here are a no no? But google will get you there.

 

[TOBY458]

Henneberger makes a QD one piece thats like a thin flat plate the optic screws right on, no extra pieces.

I have a Aimpoint H1 on their Blaser mount ; but they make them for all sorts of compact brand red dot optic.


Theres LOTS of European companies making Blaser mounts; MAK, Innogun,Gun Star just to name a few.

Titanium Gunworks in Germany is a dealer who really knows Blaser and can deal with specific Henneberger mounts for just about any brand optic. I think links here are a no no? But google will get you there.

I've been looking at the Aimpoint H1 Blaser combo. Looks really nice. They are $1215 USD on Amazon. How do you like yours?

 

[TOBY458]

There is a Picatinny rail for the R8 and you can mount an RMR on it.

What do you think of this setup?

 

[Dinsdale]

I've been looking at the Aimpoint H1 Blaser combo. Looks really nice. They are $1215 USD on Amazon. How do you like yours?

I bought one of the first mount/Aimpoint combos ever sold in the US from Eurooptic; that was a long time ago and a bunch of rounds.

Been on several of my Blaser barrels as its my rainy day/dark woods optic for deer season.

Its flawless. I find myself just using it instead of a conventional scope more and more.

I also have other Aimpoint products and really like all of them. Have a compC3 and a short tube 9000 on my slug gun for deer (I live in a state where my county is slug only; but most counties allow rifle, so I switch back and forth depending where I am.)

And the battery thing is true. I put my slug gun away one season around T-Giving. I didnt use it the following season, then I pulled it out to check zero, 20 months later. Left the scope on all that time at like a power 4/ middle setting, no problem.

 

[TOBY458]

I bought one of the first mount/Aimpoint combos ever sold in the US from Eurooptic; that was a long time ago and a bunch of rounds.

Been on several of my Blaser barrels as its my rainy day/dark woods optic for deer season.

Its flawless. I find myself just using it instead of a conventional scope more and more.

I also have other Aimpoint products and really like all of them. Have a compC3 and a short tube 9000 on my slug gun for deer (I live in a state where my county is slug only; but most counties allow rifle, so I switch back and forth depending where I am.)

And the battery thing is true. I put my slug gun away one season around T-Giving. I didnt use it the following season, then I pulled it out to check zero, 20 months later. Left the scope on all that time at like a power 4/ middle setting, no problem.

Thanks for the info!

 

[Dinsdale]

What do you think of this setup?

You didnt ask me, but thats similar to one of my Aimpoint h1 mounts that uses one set of barrel detents. I also have the the other that uses both detents.

I found no issue with the single at all, and still have the double for future use at some point, never switched it over and will most likely buy another Aimpoint.

Here is the H1 on a Blaser with the single point contact with a 270win brass for scale. This has been in the field a bunch, I’m not always easy on equipment and has held up fine, no shift after initial zero. (thats an R93, I never made the jump to R8, optic mounts are all the same)

 

[TOBY458]

You didnt ask me, but thats similar to one of my Aimpoint h1 mounts that uses one set of barrel detents. I also have the the other that uses both detents.

I found no issue with the single at all, and still have the double for future use at some point, never switched it over and will most likely buy another Aimpoint.

Here is the H1 on a Blaser with the single point contact with a 270win brass for scale. This has been in the field a bunch, I’m not always easy on equipment and has held up fine, no shift after initial zero. (thats an R93, I never made the jump to R8, optic mounts are all the same)

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I just wonder would the single mount hold up on a 458WM?

 

[Rare Breed]

The reason I ask about the mounting arrangement is, the little piccatinny mounts that come on the Trijicon sites seem very fragile. The mounting screw on the H2 sight that I sold was very miniscule. I want something robust enough to take the recoil, but will stay tight without having to use thread locker. I want it to be quick release, so I can swap back and forth between it and a scope. Seems like all of the mounts for the RMR style sights are made for piccatinny rails on AR15 style rifles, and seem pretty flimsy.

I only have custom rail made by JJ for my RMR and now SRO. Having shot my SRO for first time this week I like it better than my RMR…for me easier target acquisition and extremely little difference in profile. I also much prefer the 1 MOA versus my RMR 3.25 MOA

 

[Dinsdale]

I just wonder would the single mount hold up on a 458WM?

I’ve shot that on a 375HH barrel and even sighted it in as a backup for a trip on a 300WBY; my wood stock gun is pretty light, quite a bit then any R8 configuration. I didnt have any issues, still havent.

But, that became the topic of discussion around, and after some time 2 pt full mounts showed up. Then with the popularity of the R8, more aftermarket companies started in on mounts. I jumped in on a group introductory deal and ended up with a 2 pt I never switched to.

Right now? I’d buy a 2 point. It’s probably more robust over all in case of getting banged around a bit on in the field,on and off a trucks gun rack, and recoil.

I’d pair it with the sub $500 RMR and the mount is $400; and you’re less than the Aimpoint combo. No it’s not cheap, nothing Blaser ever has been. I can say I get sale emails from Aimpoint and you can beat that $1200 Amazon standard price direct from Aimpoint.

 

[TOBY458]

I’ve shot that on a 375HH barrel and even sighted it in as a backup for a trip on a 300WBY; my wood stock gun is pretty light, quite a bit then any R8 configuration. I didnt have any issues, still havent.

But, that became the topic of discussion around, and after some time 2 pt full mounts showed up. Then with the popularity of the R8, more aftermarket companies started in on mounts. I jumped in on a group introductory deal and ended up with a 2 pt I never switched to.

Right now? I’d buy a 2 point. It’s probably more robust over all in case of getting banged around a bit on in the field,on and off a trucks gun rack, and recoil.

I’d pair it with the sub $500 RMR and the mount is $400; and you’re less than the Aimpoint combo. No it’s not cheap, nothing Blaser ever has been. I can say I get sale emails from Aimpoint and you can beat that $1200 Amazon standard price direct from Aimpoint.

I went ahead and ordered the RMR with the Trijicon RM60 mount. I'll try it and see if it holds up. If not, hopefully I can find a mount for it that has two attachments.

 

[Inline6]

I went ahead and ordered the RMR with the Trijicon RM60 mount. I'll try it and see if it holds up. If not, hopefully I can find a mount for it that has two attachments.

I bet you can have an RMR base fitted to a quick detach Blaser scope base. Personally I would rather have the H1, it is a sealed unit. Rain and heavy dust will not allow you to see the dot on the screen of an RMR (any reflex).

Mine H1 has lived under a Benelli m4 for several thousands rounds from #8 to slugs. Zero has been the same, recoil is not a 458 that said it has seen a lot of cycles and never seem anything, no lost zero, no flicker, no dead batteries (I changed it out after 5 years, wanted to see if it was like everyone talks about).

FWIW, I run a 1X6 on my 458Lott. I don't think it enough of a difference to worry about a RDS. That might just be me, I do run LPVOs on several ARs as well as RDS. Guess it depends on what you want.

 

[rookhawk]

I think I have a spare Henneberger base over here. Send a PM if you need one and let’s measure to make sure it will fit. I have it for an O/U double rifle but I think it uses Blaser mount layout.

 

[Tanks]

... Personally I would rather have the H1, it is a sealed unit. Rain and heavy dust will not allow you to see the dot on the screen of an RMR (any reflex).
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I must have been very lucky as I can't recall it raining on any African hunt I have been on.

 

[rookhawk]

You didnt ask me, but thats similar to one of my Aimpoint h1 mounts that uses one set of barrel detents. I also have the the other that uses both detents.

I found no issue with the single at all, and still have the double for future use at some point, never switched it over and will most likely buy another Aimpoint.

Here is the H1 on a Blaser with the single point contact with a 270win brass for scale. This has been in the field a bunch, I’m not always easy on equipment and has held up fine, no shift after initial zero. (thats an R93, I never made the jump to R8, optic mounts are all the same)

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Not sure how I’d feel about that on a Dangerous Game rifle. I think it would be fine on a turkey gun or a deer slug gun, but at close range or during a charge, I want both my eyes open and I want binocular vision. The RMRs get the optic point as low as the iron sights which is the point, instant cheek weld for an instinctive shot. Anything that brings the optic higher means I have to adjust my face to get into the sight.

Different strokes for different folks of course, just sharing how I think and what I think an RMR does for a dangerous game rifle that is different than other options.

Presently, I have a 1-4x optic with IR on my 470NE heym. The scope was fitted as the primary optic and it is in claw mounts as low as the iron sights. I usually have it at 1x but it’s at the trade off versus an RMR for visibility. That is to say, I’m gaining the ability to take a 100+ yard plains game shot with my optic and then dial it back to 1x for DG. I view my optic as perfectly designed as it is and perfectly mounted in $3000 mounts to be a compromise over an RMR in order to glean a bit more versatility for non-DG.

 

[DWB]

@rookhawk

In many instances the Aimpoint H1 Micro's middle is lower than others.

Obviously you have to consider the different mounting options.

But because it is tubular it's internals doesn't sit underneith it. Battery on the side for example.

I have 3 of them and absolutely crazy about them.

This is on a ZKK602