Would someone be so kind and explain to me the allure of 8x57. Just about everyone I talk to speaks very highly of it but to me it’s nothing special. I’m not against the cartridge, and I’m not saying there is something very wrong with it. I have a light weight, single shot rifle chambered in 8x57JRS that I now use for 95% of my hunting. It is pleasant to shoot and everything I shot with it was killed in a quick and humane manner so I’ve got no complaints. However, I understand the cartridge’s limitations and pick my shots accordingly. What’s my issue? It is neither a small and fast cartridge, nor a large and slow one. It is somewhere in between and gets the benefits of neither one. Its relatively low velocity limits the use of available projectiles. Sierra states that their 8mm 220gr Gameking should not be used for hunting from this cartridge due to low velocity, and Gameking is a relatively soft bullet. The accurate and effective 160gr lead free RWS HIT-Matrix is not recommended at ranges beyond 130m. I’m not a long range hunter but 130m limit on medium game rifle is quite short.
What is so great about 8x57?
7x57 is a different story all together, ballistically it is very good indeed.
Hi, if You are really curious about this ...
- Allure can be found on many things. ... some You might find in this article:
- Next the comparison when looking for all-around cartridge:
You will find that only wide availability in NA and various types of rifles disqualifies 8x57 from being among all-around cartridges.
From US hunter POV - having something extraordinary might be nice ....
Therefore
what is so great? ... well, not much .... but You can say pretty much the same about any all-around cartridge .... this is all the discussions with "xxx can do everything xxx does"
View from my side of the pond:
In central Europe the 8x57s are quite popular .... why? ... dont know for sure
I guess it may be
kind of historical inertia (bringing rifles from war back home - need new ammo - need new rifle for the ammo) ....,
patriotism (Germany, etc.), .... and
plain functionality (in Europe it is true all-around cartridge).
But practically:
In Czechia the european wild boars are (by miles) the most hunted specimen.
I would dare to say, that 8mm is mostly preferred option for this task than 7mm.
8x57 JS has more energy and larger diameter than 7x57. Also ammo variety is wider for the 8mm.
Most of the boars are hunted on short distances (less than 100 meters) - so You dont need high MPBR and laser trajectory flying bullets.
What You need is standard mauser action length with cheap ammo with enough power to bring down even huge, full bodied boar in his mud plastered tough fur armor .... and that happens to be 8mm mauser
... (among others, of course)
Also it is said (cannot say right or wrong) that 8mm heavy slow bullets are more "gentle" on the meat so less meat is wasted.
Generally it is said that 30-06 (in this scenario) is true "smasher" of the meat (compared to 8x57) ... but I believe it is the problem of using lighter, faster bullet in springfield. ....
Maybe new thread could be made to ask 8mm users what do they about it the most?
I would like to know too.
Technical: 8x57 JS usually carries 10 % more energy than JRS (just to have everything "in ordnung"
).