mdsalern
AH enthusiast
Guess I need to work on being Michael500…
Awesome. I'll start a thread about flat shooting big bore rifles..366, .375, and even .416 cannot do the things or perform the magic of a .458.........
But....... the 458 can do everything the lesser calibers can do, and then some..........
And, this is not mere speculation....... I have seen it in the field time after time and time again.......
there is a reason I am Michael458
Maybe........ some suggested I should change to .500, since I developed 1/2 dozen .500 caliber cartridges, but 458 is just fine........Guess I need to work on being Michael500…
Perhaps you should...... However I personally won't be able to contribute to the endeavor, for me, 50 yards is LONGGGGGGGG Range......no need for flat shooting, I can't see past 50 yards anyway....LOLAwesome. I'll start a thread about flat shooting big bore rifles.
I’m not a long range guy. Just busting chops a bit because I’m not up to the recoil of a big bore. Cheers.Maybe........ some suggested I should change to .500, since I developed 1/2 dozen .500 caliber cartridges, but 458 is just fine........
Perhaps you should...... However I personally won't be able to contribute to the endeavor, for me, 50 yards is LONGGGGGGGG Range......no need for flat shooting, I can't see past 50 yards anyway....LOL
Flat Shooting...... I can only assume you need that or desire that for long range shooting...... much of which is big fun for some...... Long Range? Well, as stated, for me 50 yards is a long way. I have another good friend, hunter, exceptional shooter, he was regularly shooting his 458 B&M and the 250 Socom at 3000 fps for 2 inch groups, consistently, at 400 yards. Later shot a tremendous moose with the same load at a tad over 200 as I recall......... Another friend of mine, again shooting a serious 458 caliber cartridge and rifle, and I believe 600 gr 458 bullets at near 3000 fps won a 2 mile challenge a few years ago...... I guess its gotta shoot pretty flat for 2 mile shooting...... way beyond my area of expertise, and or interest as well...... but none the less phenomenal. Good luck and good fun with your upcoming thread........
Regardless, 458 caliber offers tremendous versatility that is extremely hard to find in many other calibers. Looking at the incredible number of bullets available for .458 caliber (I think far more than any other single caliber) you can have your cake and eat it as well................ Yes, I am a .458 caliber fan........Magic begins at .458............
Yeah, no long range for me either........... I did shoot a zebra one time with 458 Winchester and 400 Swift A at 177 yards, that is pretty long for me, but that was back in the day when I could see past 50 yards too.......and just happens to be the first time I ever saw a zebra drop to the shot, where it stood...... I had shot a lot of zebra with 338s--358s and such, watch them run off for a bit.... DRT with 458 caliber! Wow....... the Magic Begins........throughout that hunt everything was DRT, with the exception of buffalo that ran 30 steps before folding. Sable, kudu, two lions, and others all DRT.....and I became a 458 fan....... something magical about .458 ..............I’m not a long range guy. Just busting chops a bit because I’m not up to the recoil of a big bore. Cheers.
Don’t fool yourself. A .458 caliber doesn’t make up for poor marksmanship. All those shots you took were accurate, proper shot placement gets the best results.Yeah, no long range for me either........... I did shoot a zebra one time with 458 Winchester and 400 Swift A at 177 yards, that is pretty long for me, but that was back in the day when I could see past 50 yards too.......and just happens to be the first time I ever saw a zebra drop to the shot, where it stood...... I had shot a lot of zebra with 338s--358s and such, watch them run off for a bit.... DRT with 458 caliber! Wow....... the Magic Begins........throughout that hunt everything was DRT, with the exception of buffalo that ran 30 steps before folding. Sable, kudu, two lions, and others all DRT.....and I became a 458 fan....... something magical about .458 ..............
Most definitely, I should have it some time next week!@MISportsman - Congratulations. Post a few pictures when it shows up.
If I would have had the card I would have had to use with me I would probably have bought at least one if not two of them (didn't have enough for all 3). And of course they were gone when I made it back o couple of days later. It all worked out though, I'm happy with the one I found! I actually went in there that day to see if he could order me a Ruger Hawkeye Alaskan in .375 Ruger but after seeing them I do like the CZ better!switch out the loophole for a lika and you will be golden, congrats on your purchase, it would have easier just to buy all three from the shop to start with LOL
375 is a gateway drug. Buy it , it will snowball. 416 458 505!!!Went in to a local gun shop I regular and the owner got a hold of a handful of rifles in an estate. Included in those are cz550 9.3x62, a cz550 .375 h&h, and a cz550 .458 win mag. They are all at great prices and I have enough set aside for 1 of them. I already have a Ruger Hawkeye African in 9.3x62, but that is the largest rifle I own. I do not have any dangerous game hunts planned in the near future, but I would like to purchase one of them. Which one would be recommended?
It has a mint condition wood stock, but if I take it to Alaska, the bell& Carlson would be a welcome modification@MISportsman - What stock is coming on the rifle you bought?
Asking because I really enjoyed the synthetic one that came from CZ on mine. They use Bell & Carlson for their factory stocks, so if you have timber one and want to upgrade, it's pretty easy.
https://www.bellandcarlson.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1099
I know people who love themselves a timber stock on a rifle or shotgun. They can be a real work of art. My bride is one of those people with a beautiful wood stocked rifle of her own, not to mention the shotgun she picked out for me.It has a mint condition wood stock, but if I take it to Alaska, the bell& Carlson would be a welcome modification
I have both but the more weather resistant rifles do see the most field time. I haven't decided for sure yet, between this CZ and my Hawkeye African one of them will probably end up wearing a bell and Carlson stock and get a coat of cerakote. As nice as the CZ stock is it will probably be the Ruger thoughI know people who love themselves a timber stock on a rifle or shotgun. They can be a real work of art. My bride is one of those people with a beautiful wood stocked rifle of her own, not to mention the shotgun she picked out for me.
For the most part, I'm more pragmatic and utilitarian. As such, the majority of my rifle and shotgun choices have reflected that. Yep, synthetic and stainless (or highly corrosion resistant treatment) firearms make up the majority of my vault.
Having both a wood and synthetic stock would be the best of both worlds... Best of luck with it.
As a kid did you not secretly sneak around, find presents meant for you and open them to take a peek?
Picked it up today! My wife wants to wrap it and put it under the Christmas tree lol, so I will have actual pics in a couple of weeks!
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