What is the ultimate stopping rifle..?

[Daniel Cary]

That 500 MDM .. if I'm saying that right is quite the machine...

 

[Daniel Cary]

That 500 MDM .. if I'm saying that right is quite the machine...

 

[CZDiesel]

My PH would tell you the 500 Jeff, I’d tell you I have no idea lol I stop at the 458WM!

 

[Northern Shooter]

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This was a fun thread to read through.

The .495 A-Square seems to me better than the rest for .510’s. Not as much capacity but easily matches a .500 nitro and shouldn’t have any feeding issues. Shame it didn’t take off.
This guys ruler has 3” twice lol.

Neat, I was just thinking about that the other day wondering why none of the 50cals replicated the 500NE ballistics of 570gr @ 2150 fps without bumping it up a notch or two like many do with 2300 fps+.

 

[Certus]

Few steps back tsken with that one! Load?

 

[Tanks]

That 500 MDM .. if I'm saying that right is quite the machine...

Yep, I have taken a few with it.

 

[towserthemouser]

Dan,
The P-38, P-40, and early P-51's ran the Allison V12 - 1710. There were different model variants, the most notable was in the -38, one engine rotated clockwise - the other counter-clockwise. On the 38 the exhaust was ducted through the turbo which contributed to its' unique sound.

I just purely love this forum: shooting and hunting and Africa with glorious old warbirds thrown in for free!

 

[Daniel Cary]

I just purely love this forum: shooting and hunting and Africa with glorious old warbirds thrown in for free!

The P-38 is a beautiful ship. idk where the obsession came from the sound .. of the Allison V12? it's distinct.

 

[IvW]

My PH would tell you the 500 Jeff, I’d tell you I have no idea lol I stop at the 458WM!

Your PH would be correct......

 

[Rare Breed]

That 500 MDM .. if I'm saying that right is quite the machine...

It’s like asking what is the most dangerous of the big 5? The answer to your question is the rifle you can always place your first shot in the kill zone and the answer to the second question is the one wounded you cannot see!!!

 

[Daniel Cary]

It’s like asking what is the most dangerous of the big 5? The answer to your question is the rifle you can always place your first shot in the kill zone and the answer to the second question is the one wounded you cannot see!!!

Indeed .. this MDM, I was simply unaware of. prompt further research for mere curiosity.

 

[John J]

Great cartridge that MDM. The only animal thus far taken with it. 450 gr CEB at 2300 fps. I carry it in WY around grizzly country. New stock in the rifle pic

 

[Northern Shooter]

View attachment 640013View attachment 640014Great cartridge that MDM. The only animal thus far taken with it. 450 gr CEB at 2300 fps. I carry it in WY around grizzly country. New stock in the rifle pic

Wow! That thing looks like a dinosaur.

 

[colorado]

500 Jeffery (not from the Internet )

 

[runningman]

At a minimum, Browning 86 or Marlin carbine in same (.45-70) caliber, the former if a camp-site scenario; latter if specifically hunting (with same gun). These'd be the most handy/likely to have around. Not saying a .460_(whatever)_ or .500 Nitro Exp (.375 H&H minimum) wouldn't be the ticket--if you had the time--but for fast handlers, the above carbines would be it, with a .454 or .44 Redhawk or. Mountain-type Smith or Ruger Alaskan on the hip.

 

[grand veneur]

At a minimum, Browning 86 or Marlin carbine in same (.45-70) caliber, the former if a camp-site scenario; latter if specifically hunting (with same gun). These'd be the most handy/likely to have around. Not saying a .460_(whatever)_ or .500 Nitro Exp (.375 H&H minimum) wouldn't be the ticket--if you had the time--but for fast handlers, the above carbines would be it, with a .454 or .44 Redhawk or. Mountain-type Smith or Ruger Alaskan on the hip.

The topic is primarily about rifles for Africa and that is why big bore cartridges are the main subject of discussion. It is certain that you also have to take the handling of a rifles into account. Cartridges like the 577 Nitro Express or 600 Nitro Express for example are certainly excellent cartridges for stopping dangerous game, but due to the weight of the majority of the rifles for it's, they are certainly not ideal when it comes to shoot very quickly and repeatedly.

 

[SStomcat]

The topic is primarily about rifles for Africa and that is why big bore cartridges are the main subject of discussion. It is certain that you also have to take the handling of a rifles into account. Cartridges like the 577 Nitro Express or 600 Nitro Express for example are certainly excellent cartridges for stopping dangerous game, but due to the weight of the majority of the rifles for it's, they are certainly not ideal when it comes to shoot very quickly and repeatedly.

and lug it all day in the African sun. Of course, you can have a tracker carry it, but it's not ideal. A famous Ph quoted after firing his sons 577 ne that nothing on this earth needs that much killing power.

 

[grand veneur]

and lug it all day in the African sun. Of course, you can have a tracker carry it, but it's not ideal. A famous Ph quoted after firing his sons 577 ne that nothing on this earth needs that much killing power.

That's right, if it is just about killing big game, you need a lot less power, but the discussion is mainly about stopping power.