What is the typical method for hunting a captive bred lion?

[JGRaider]

Agree with redleg. My two neighbors (that weigh about 325+lbs each BTW) went on a CBL shoot about 4 years ago. They video'd the event and I watched it with them as they proudly showed a couple of us their accomplishment. Although they are nice people, Neither one of these folks could walk much further than up and down the ice cream aisle at Piggly Wiggly, but they both got their game. The man shot the lion while it layed underneath a bush of some sort at a distance of about 80 yds, and the wife shot hers out of a tree, never attempting to leave, probably because the corner of the high fence was plainly in site in the video approximately 20 yards from where the lion was treed. I left the viewing feeling my 12 yr old daughter could have accomplished the same thing, easily.

 

[postoak]

Perhaps instead of saying the experience is incidental I should have said it is something you enjoy in the background.

To me there is nothing challenging about spending days (or even weeks) placing baits and lots of walking but I am patient and have good health. And I would enjoy my time in the African bush. JG, yeah, your 12 YO daughter would probably get bored hunting a wild lion because of all the time required but physically I don't think it would be a challenge for her.

Of course, I would enjoy wild more, but either would make me happy.

 

[IvW]

Perhaps instead of saying the experience is incidental I should have said it is something you enjoy in the background.

To me there is nothing challenging about spending days (or even weeks) placing baits and lots of walking but I am patient and have good health. And I would enjoy my time in the African bush. JG, yeah, your 12 YO daughter would probably get bored hunting a wild lion because of all the time required but physically I don't think it would be a challenge for her.

Of course, I would enjoy wild more, but either would make me happy.

You have clearly never hunted a wild lion or lioness.....

 

[postoak]

Clearly I haven't! But please expound on that.

 

[Royal27]

Perhaps instead of saying the experience is incidental I should have said it is something you enjoy in the background.

Nope. It's the first and foremost thing in the foreground for me. Always has been and always will be.

Clearly I haven't! But please expound on that.

You think getting a lion on bait isn't challenging.

 

[Red Leg]

Perhaps instead of saying the experience is incidental I should have said it is something you enjoy in the background.

To me there is nothing challenging about spending days (or even weeks) placing baits and lots of walking but I am patient and have good health. And I would enjoy my time in the African bush. JG, yeah, your 12 YO daughter would probably get bored hunting a wild lion because of all the time required but physically I don't think it would be a challenge for her.

Of course, I would enjoy wild more, but either would make me happy.

I would suggest hunting an apex cat in the wild before drawing too many conclusions about the experience.

 

[Aaron N]

I think that I can see where @postoak is coming from, and not to hijack the thread, lets go off on a tangent and pose this question:

Would you rather walk and stalk a wild lion, or hunt one over bait from a blind.

I would think the general consensus on this forum would be that a walk and stalk hunt, on the lions own terms, would be a far better experience than waiting in a blind.

Baiting is in itself a challenge without guaranteed results, but the responsibility and decision making of the process is more or less out of the clients control (Bait Location, bait used etc.). Personally, I can see how this can be viewed as a less challenging hunt, along the same lines as sitting at a waterhole, whereas tracking and stalking may have the hunter more engaged in the whole process and he has a greater effect on the variables, making it more of a challenge in the hunters eyes.

But then again, maybe this wasn't his thought process at all!

Now if the method was hanging baits to get a cat within the vicinity, and then cutting spoor from there, that's a whole new ball of wax!

 

[postoak]

Actually, Aaron, you hit it exactly. Other than having patience, what challenge to the client hunter is the baiting part? The client, I suspect is not involved in any of the decision making, or the hard work (he isn't going to be manually lugging the bait to the bait site!). Even loading the bait into the truck or pulling it behind will be done by the tracker and PH, (although I usually pitch in when loading plains game into the truck because I'm a nice guy, I don't think the PH cares at all if I do this or not.

I can certainly see why the PH finds it more challenging.

 

[IvW]

Would you rather walk and stalk a wild lion, or hunt one over bait from a blind.

The OP question is regarding CBL lion hunt not walking and stalking a wild lion or hunting a wild lion.

Hunting a wild lion is about the whole experience which is hard to explain if you have not done it..with the added advantage of having no guarantee of getting your lion...

There is a huge difference between hunting a CBL lion as opposed to the work and experience involved in hunting a wild lion....

 

[Aaron N]

The OP question is regarding CBL lion hunt not walking and stalking a wild lion or hunting a wild lion.

Hunting a wild lion is about the whole experience which is hard to explain if you have not done it..with the added advantage of having no guarantee of getting your lion...

There is a huge difference between hunting a CBL lion as opposed to the work and experience involved in hunting a wild lion....

I have edited my post to make note that I was going off on a tangent.

 

[IvW]

Actually, Aaron, you hit it exactly. Other than having patience, what challenge to the client hunter is the baiting part? The client, I suspect is not involved in any of the decision making, or the hard work (he isn't going to be manually lugging the bait to the bait site!). Even loading the bait into the truck or pulling it behind will be done by the tracker and PH, (although I usually pitch in when loading plains game into the truck because I'm a nice guy, I don't think the PH cares at all if I do this or not.

I can certainly see why the PH finds it more challenging.

Seems like you just want to compare sitting in the blind instead of being part of the entire experience of actually hunting the wild lion....sitting in the blind after all the hard work and outwitting the lion and then getting a shot is merely the conclusion the last step so to speak....I think CBL hunting would be your best option...

 

[postoak]

But IvW, you glossed over the part of my post where I said that the hard work is done by the PH and trackers. Correct me if I am wrong on that and that the client contributes anything other than companionship.

Of course, after two weeks of working at getting a lion it is going to be an extra thrill over the CBL experience.

 

[IvW]

Correct me if I am wrong on that and that the client contributes anything other than companionship.

Yes you are wrong on that. If you hunt lion with me anyway

You will be part of the entire experience, including and not restricted to being expected to hunt the baits, bounce around in the truck for as long as it takes to get baits set up, checking baits, checking on any tracks found, setting up the baits, being part of the decision making all the time, building the blind and then eventually sitting in the blind in anticipation and if everything was done right get the opportunity to pull the trigger on a magnificent lion...

You could also during this time happen upon a natural kill and hunt the wild lion on foot or be lucky enough to happen upon a lion while going about your normal hunting and get your opportunity.

It is about the whole hunting experience, not just pulling the trigger. Once you have concluded the hunt by pulling the trigger the hunt and the experience is over...

Unless of course you prefer not to get involved and just be a companion, in which case it would defeat the object, in my book anyway....

 

[Red Leg]

Yes you are wrong on that. If you hunt lion with me anyway

You will be part of the entire experience, including and not restricted to being expected to hunt the baits, bounce around in the truck for as long as it takes to get baits set up, checking baits, checking on any tracks found, setting up the baits, being part of the decision making all the time, building the blind and then eventually sitting in the blind in anticipation and if everything was done right get the opportunity to pull the trigger on a magnificent lion...

You could also during this time happen upon a natural kill and hunt the wild lion on foot or be lucky enough to happen upon a lion while going about your normal hunting and get your opportunity.

It is about the whole hunting experience, not just pulling the trigger. Once you have concluded the hunt by pulling the trigger the hunt and the experience is over...

Unless of course you prefer not to get involved and just be a companion, in which case it would defeat the object, in my book anyway....

I haven’t hunted a lion, but that describes my leopard experience exactly.

 

[BRICKBURN]

The mental game is a huge part of chasing a wild cat.

 

[Bonk]

If I ever get the opportunity to hunt lion it will be walk and stalk in pursuit of a wild animal. I'm not interested in any other kind of hunting. I'm not interested in hunting over bait either. I'd explain why but I doubt I could do it without offending someone and that is not my intent.

Captive bred hunting and hunting over bait are legal and necessary in their own way but it's not something I'll ever participate in. The same goes for any hunting inside high fences. No thanks. Free range natural bred animals are the only game I want to hunt. If that means I end up tired, footsore, and empty handed I'm good with that. YMMV.

 

[Red Leg]

If I ever get the opportunity to hunt lion it will be walk and stalk in pursuit of a wild animal. I'm not interested in any other kind of hunting. I'm not interested in hunting over bait either. I'd explain why but I doubt I could do it without offending someone and that is not my intent.

Captive bred hunting and hunting over bait are legal and necessary in their own way but it's not something I'll ever participate in. The same goes for any hunting inside high fences. No thanks. Free range natural bred animals are the only game I want to hunt. If that means I end up tired, footsore, and empty handed I'm good with that. YMMV.

So, you are never going to hunt a leopard?

 

[Bonk]

So, you are never going to hunt a leopard?

No, I'm not for that very reason. I don't hunt over bait. Others can do whatever they want but I won't do it.

 

[Red Leg]

No, I'm not for that very reason. I don't hunt over bait. Others can do whatever they want but I won't do it.

Against decoying ducks and geese? I assume you wouldn't bait a sendero in South Texas either, though you might want to try still hunting the brush country before assuming that position.... How about for feral hogs destroying your crops? The use of calls? Just curious.

 

[Bushpig4Ever]

Instead of hunting a captive bred lion you should rather make an appointment with your psychiatrist...