Titan sling swivels?

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Anyone have experience with these detachable sling swivels?
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They finally arrived today. Optics Planet "delayed shipment" (= backorder?) three months in a row so I ordered them from Boyt Harness and the swivels were shipped same day.

I am pleasantly surprised. These are a simple but effective and doubtless very durable design. The swivels appear to be cast from titanium (hence the name) and coated dull black. They detach very easily. Simply push on the end of rod to pop it loose from internal stainless steel spring lock, then pull the knurled knob on other end. Push the knob to lock the rod onto swivel stud. As you can see, the metal swivel cannot touch wood if sling is attached, even if the swivel stud is screwed down flush to the stock. Uncle Mike's QD swivels must have spacer between stud and stock or the articulated swivel will scratch the stock, even if sling is attached. I think it would be a good idea to relock the Titan locking pins when sling is detached. Brass pins might hook on something in my pack. Locking pins fit very snuggly in Uncle Mike's swivel studs. Because the locking pins are brass, they won't rust. If they don't rust, they shouldn't squeak (yet another problem with Uncle Mike's).

The sling is made by a Polish guy and sold on eBay. Seems to be top grade leather and hardware. A little wider than I'd like but will see how it works out. I rolled the leather keeper straps so rivet is topside and won't scratch the stock. Not as pretty but whatever.
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Camera flash makes the sling leather look shiny. It's not. Slings can be ordered in black, chocolate, and burgundy. I don't trust dyes so went with natural.
 
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eBay you say, back soon…
 

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can the pin come all way out, or is it captured. I thought about this brand before but was concerned with losing the pin.
 
They finally arrived today. Optics Planet "delayed shipment" (= backorder?) three months in a row so I ordered them from Boyt Harness and the swivels were shipped same day.

I am pleasantly surprised. These are a simple but effective and doubtless very durable design. The swivels appear to be cast from titanium (hence the name) and coated dull black. They detach very easily. Simply push on the end of rod to pop it loose from internal stainless steel spring lock, then pull the knurled knob on other end. Push the knob to lock the rod onto swivel stud. As you can see, the metal swivel cannot touch wood if sling is attached, even if the swivel stud is screwed down flush to the stock. Uncle Mike's QD swivels must have spacer between stud and stock or the articulated swivel will scratch the stock, even if sling is attached. I think it would be a good idea to relock the Titan locking pins when sling is detached. Brass pins might hook on something in my pack. Locking pins fit very snuggly in Uncle Mike's swivel studs. Because the locking pins are brass, they won't rust. If they don't rust, they shouldn't squeak (yet another problem with Uncle Mike's).

The sling is made by a Polish guy and sold on eBay. Seems to be top grade leather and hardware. A little wider than I'd like but will see how it works out. I rolled the leather keeper straps so rivet is topside and won't scratch the stock. Not as pretty but whatever.
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Camera flash makes the sling leather look shiny. It's not. Slings can be ordered in black, chocolate, and burgundy. I don't trust dyes so went with natural.
@Ontario Hunter - those swivels look Great and exactly like you described - appear durable & functional, I would definitely try those in the future….I like the “brass” too.
The leather sling also looks nice, wide straps so as not to cut into you shoulder when carrying. However, I’m not a fan of “leather” slings - odd because I really like other things “traditional” and love the look of a leather sling. I prefer some of the Neoprene slings and found they “cling” to my shoulder better (don’t slip off) and also “flex” a bit while walking which makes the rifle more pleasant to carry, and they seem “lighter”….just my take on things
 

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@Ontario Hunter - those swivels look Great and exactly like you described - appear durable & functional, I would definitely try those in the future….I like the “brass” too.
The leather sling also looks nice, wide straps so as not to cut into you shoulder when carrying. However, I’m not a fan of “leather” slings - odd because I really like other things “traditional” and love the look of a leather sling. I prefer some of the Neoprene slings and found they “cling” to my shoulder better (don’t slip off) and also “flex” a bit while walking which makes the rifle more pleasant to carry, and they seem “lighter”….just my take on things
Neoprene slings soak up rain and snow like a sponge. I also didn't care for the "bounce." Decending rough rocky terrain I felt like my gun (or rather the gun I borrowed from my brother) was trying to jump off my shoulder. But at the end of the day it still filled the freezer.
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I’ve tried several and it seems that the ones that are easy to detach are also the ones that detach when you don’t want them to. The ones that stay put in the field are usually not the quickest to detach. One of those deals where you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
The inexpensive Uncle Mike’s setup is working pretty good for me. I like it because the outer portion of the detach “plunger “ has threads that you screw down and it doesn’t allow for it to be depressed.
I’ve developed a habit of checking my sling attachments constantly. I’ve had a few incidents of untimely detachment that could’ve been ugly.
Had a QD come undone in a boulder field and rifle landed hard on the rocks about 8’ down. Luckily no damage and didn’t change POA but I had to check zero before I could keep going.
 
I’ve tried several and it seems that the ones that are easy to detach are also the ones that detach when you don’t want them to. The ones that stay put in the field are usually not the quickest to detach. One of those deals where you can’t have your cake and eat it too.
The inexpensive Uncle Mike’s setup is working pretty good for me. I like it because the outer portion of the detach “plunger “ has threads that you screw down and it doesn’t allow for it to be depressed.
I’ve developed a habit of checking my sling attachments constantly. I’ve had a few incidents of untimely detachment that could’ve been ugly.
Had a QD come undone in a boulder field and rifle landed hard on the rocks about 8’ down. Luckily no damage and didn’t change POA but I had to check zero before I could keep going.
I had at least one pair of the screw lock Uncle Mike's. They are one step above the non-locking model but the chief defect of both is the pin for swivel stud eye is only pressed into the hinge. They invariably become loose and fall out. These work fine as long as the swivel is locked on the stud. Twice I removed slings only to discover at the end of the day when I wanted to reattach that the pin to lock onto stud eye had fallen out.

When I threw the old pair of Uncle Mike's in the gun parts bag last night, I discovered I had a pair of blued steel swivels very similar to the Titan model, i.e. with a stud pin that pushes in and out. I remember now that I retired them some time ago because they had become a bit rusty and pins were very hard to release. Not sure who made them but I think they came on the replacement sling for my 30-06 I bought back in '81. Rusting will not be a issue with Titan swivels.

I think the Recknagle model shown above would be better for cold weather. Its larger knurled knob is easier to grasp. I believe that's why I retired the steel set. I couldn't pull the sticky pin out when my fingers were cold. Smaller knobs are less obtrusive but not as easy to detach.

The only drawback to Titan swivels I've found so far is they are a bit fiddly to reattach. Unlike Uncle Mike's, the retaining pin is hidden from view when the swivel is placed on the stud. Finding the stud hole with pin involves trial and error. They don't reattach quickly, but who needs to be in a hurry reattaching their sling?
 

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