Tipping Guide

[SplitHoof]

@SplitHoof - with your attitude about tipping - guessing you were born before 1980 and likely older ——- I AGREE with YOU and the Older I get the “grumpier” I get. I tip generously - often over tip based on %s recommended but it’s got to be MY DECISION —- Not what is “recommended”. I actually enjoy when you pay for something in a Retail store and before you pay they ask (or “prompt”) “Would you like to round UP $$” and I say “NO but I’d like your store to ROUND DOWN” that usually gets a very confused look on the cashier face —- same when asked if I’d like to donate to the charity-of-the-minute…Seems everyone today is trying to get into My Wallet !!

Yep, when I turned 60, I received my cynicism license. I am retired, polite, but unfiltered.
My brother and I have devised our own blend of “social credit score”, a rating system to predict the generality of individuals to be able to complete basic human tasks, how they would interact with us in many faucets, their reliability, integrity, and general usefulness. Many of the politically correct persuasion would find this offensive, but it is what it is.
When it comes to tip culture, our actions to tip or not are often influenced by one of several factors, as an example the “GI” (General Incompetence) which is an element of the overall score for a particular individual. Sadly, we see a downward trend across many levels of society regarding this, and the screen spinners are tight in there with all the rest.

 

[HankBuck]

Yep, when I turned 60, I received my cynicism license. I am retired, polite, but unfiltered.
My brother and I have devised our own blend of “social credit score”, a rating system to predict the generality of individuals to be able to complete basic human tasks, how they would interact with us in many faucets, their reliability, integrity, and general usefulness. Many of the politically correct persuasion would find this offensive, but it is what it is.
When it comes to tip culture, our actions to tip or not are often influenced by one of several factors, as an example the “GI” (General Incompetence) which is an element of the overall score for a particular individual. Sadly, we see a downward trend across many levels of society regarding this, and the screen spinners are tight in there with all the rest.

@SplitHoof - well I like the “Social Credit Score” and I don’t even know what it is —yet?? I don’t know if I’m jaded and cynical due to my age or that I worked in New York City for 30+ years and saw Bums & Beggers daily looking for a handout at every corner. To me Tipping is the New “begging”, it’s no longer sought after for superior service — it’s expected by everyone for everything. I still like to tip - especially give a good Waiter a large cash tip or even hand a Hostess $20 for placing us at a great table —- but it’s got to be MY idea and I must “perceive” something was done Above & Beyond.

 

[Rimbaud]

@SplitHoof - well I like the “Social Credit Score” and I don’t even know what it is —yet?? I don’t know if I’m jaded and cynical due to my age or that I worked in New York City for 30+ years and saw Bums & Beggers daily looking for a handout at every corner. To me Tipping is the New “begging”, it’s no longer sought after for superior service — it’s expected by everyone for everything. I still like to tip - especially give a good Waiter a large cash tip or even hand a Hostess $20 for placing us at a great table —- but it’s got to be MY idea and I must “perceive” something was done Above & Beyond.

I remember a hustler, I mean beggar, who used to work the Lex Line downtown. He would announce with great enthusiasm to the crowded subway car: what is the greatest nation in the world? He would pause, as all great performers do, to increase the dramatic tension, and then he would bellow out his answer. DOUGH-NATION. The wallets opened up after that. Also, used to be a guy who worked the trains around City Hall/Broadway. Helluva opera singer, but his monk-strap Ferragamos cost more than my benchmade shoes. The Times did a great piece a long long time ago about how much some of the panhandlers make. Some of them made $100,000 annually. No taxes.

 

[Kharn]

Expecting Tipping feels suspect/dirty too me sort of like...
Them: "I expect to get tipped regardless of my output."
Me: "Well I do not want to reward or encourage that."

Tipping should be at the hunters discretion and from my perspective is used to reward "Above & Beyond" (Above & Beyond is entirely defined by the Hunter/Client/Customer in the moment, IF/the more the Hunter/Client/Customer is being TOLD by the guides that what the Hunter/Client/Customer is receiving is 'Above & Beyond' is suspicious, it is entirely up to the perspective of the Hunter/Client/Customer, not the Guide(s)), it's earned, not "expected", when I receive something I perceive as Above & Beyond I really REALLY want to give that person something Above & Beyond in return.

EDIT: The way some people defend tipping makes it come off as like their wage which makes me ask why they aren't receiving a wage instead of tips? So all I hear from them is them either knowingly or unknowingly defending their employer to not pay them a wage?...What?

 

[Flbt]

Expecting Tipping feels suspect/dirty too me sort of like...
Them: "I expect to get tipped regardless of my output."
Me: "Well I do not want to reward or encourage that."

Tipping should be at the hunters discretion and from my perspective is used to reward "Above & Beyond" (Above & Beyond is entirely defined by the Hunter/Client/Customer in the moment, IF/the more the Hunter/Client/Customer is being TOLD by the guides that what the Hunter/Client/Customer is receiving is 'Above & Beyond' is suspicious, it is entirely up to the perspective of the Hunter/Client/Customer, not the Guide(s)), it's earned, not "expected", when I receive something I perceive as Above & Beyond I really REALLY want to give that person something Above & Beyond in return.

EDIT: The way some people defend tipping makes it come off as like their wage which makes me ask why they aren't receiving a wage instead of tips? So all I hear from them is them either knowingly or unknowingly defending their employer to not pay them a wage?...What?

Was looking at a hog outfitter and on there cost page at the end of the list it said. A tip of 20-25% was expected
It looks like the guys taking you hunting are the outfitter them selves.

And stoped at cap. D to get lunch the guy at the drive through ask if I wanted to tip.
I ask him for what ( after I got the food)
For service was his answer.
I told him there was no service that he had just done his job.

 

[Andrew62]

Just completed a 10 Day dangerous game hunt in the Omay area of Zimbabwe. The following were 'suggested' tips. The cost of my hunt was, day rate, 9500.00, tuskless 5000, hippo 5000, impala 400.00. Total of hunt with fees, 21,200.00.

Professional Hunter, xxxxxxxxx
Camp Staff, 1000.00
Tracker, 300.00
Tracker, 300.00
Driver, 300.00
Communal game scout, 150.00
Government scout, 150.00
Appy, 200.00

I offer the above for those who are going on future hunts and may want an 'idea' of what to expect in the way of tipping for this kind of hunt.

 

[ru4elk]

Just completed a 10 Day dangerous game hunt in the Omay area of Zimbabwe. The following were 'suggested' tips. The cost of my hunt was, day rate, 9500.00, tuskless 5000, hippo 5000, impala 400.00. Total of hunt with fees, 21,200.00.

Professional Hunter, xxxxxxxxx
Camp Staff, 1000.00
Tracker, 300.00
Tracker, 300.00
Driver, 300.00
Communal game scout, 150.00
Government scout, 150.00
Appy, 200.00

I offer the above for those who are going on future hunts and may want an 'idea' of what to expect in the way of tipping for this kind of hunt.

What did you tip the PH?

 

[Andrew62]

What did you tip the PH?

2000

 

[deewayne2003]

EDIT: The way some people defend tipping makes it come off as like their wage which makes me ask why they aren't receiving a wage instead of tips? So all I hear from them is them either knowingly or unknowingly defending their employer to not pay them a wage?...What?

Agreed, I often hear.......

"America is drunk on cheap labor!" No business owners are drunk on cheap labor
"Nobody wants to work anymore!" No they just do not want to work for slave wages

Consider this - In 1986 the minimum wage was $3.10hr and to have the same purchasing power today you have to make $18.00hr.

The average person making $18hr today in the USA is 24yo college educated with student loan debt.

So it galls me to hear business owners trying to hire skilled labor for $15 or even $20 dollars an hour and complaining about "nobody wants to work anymore" when they are trying to hire skilled adults for less money than a 17yo with 2 years experience working the drive through at McDonald's in 1986.....

FYI 1986 was also the year Reagan gave 6mil illegals amnesty.