Tanzania Hunting Abuses Video WARNING

[PeteG]

After reading all the comments and reviewing my own feelings on this video I was struck by the similarity of "our" reactions to the "other" folks reactions to a hunting issue.

These comments were about the GQ article.
Here is a sample of comments posted in reaction to this question: What kind of person would shoot an elephant?:

"I couldn't even get through the first page of this article. I believe that people like this are psychotic. I understand hunting for food, but to kill a magnificent creature like an elephant to feed their ego is just heartbreaking. What a bunch of pieces of shit."

"An idiot and a coward that deserves nothing short of what he did to the animals."

"The picture of her smiling next to the posable dead elephant with faint streak of blood is creepily eery. What feeling supersedes the fact that animal died for no better reason than pride and ego...shameful, disgusting, insane"

"Hunting for sport alone is stupid. You want to make it a real sport? Make it to where there's a real chance that the hunter can get hurt as well."

"can we hunt them and see how they feel? I wouldent mind shooting these ppl"

"I can't understand this kind of thing... theres no justify... ignorance."

Makes you realize the way we feel about the kind of behaviour shown in the video clip is the same general feelings felt by anti hunters against ethical hunting...

 

[Johnny7604]

After reading all the comments and reviewing my own feelings on this video I was struck by the similarity of "our" reactions to the "other" folks reactions to a hunting issue.

These comments were about the GQ article.
Here is a sample of comments posted in reaction to this question: What kind of person would shoot an elephant?:

"I couldn't even get through the first page of this article. I believe that people like this are psychotic. I understand hunting for food, but to kill a magnificent creature like an elephant to feed their ego is just heartbreaking. What a bunch of pieces of shit."

"An idiot and a coward that deserves nothing short of what he did to the animals."

"The picture of her smiling next to the posable dead elephant with faint streak of blood is creepily eery. What feeling supersedes the fact that animal died for no better reason than pride and ego...shameful, disgusting, insane"

"Hunting for sport alone is stupid. You want to make it a real sport? Make it to where there's a real chance that the hunter can get hurt as well."

"can we hunt them and see how they feel? I wouldent mind shooting these ppl"

"I can't understand this kind of thing... theres no justify... ignorance."

I've been wrestling with the same thoughts as this thread has progressed. It doesn't change the way I feel about any of it but it is uncanny how closely our comments and feelings mirror those of anti-hunters. It appears we can be just as "passionate" when it comes to voicing our beliefs and morals.

 

[ActionBob]

Apparently some of those posters regarding the elephant hunt did not read or comprehend the whole article... It is split up so that it is easy to think you are done and then it goes on again into another chapter. "just for sport"... Yes for the hunter, but not for the animal as it explicitly goes on to explain how many people it feeds....... But I am off track... I think the point being made is to try and understand how anti hunters feel about hunting in general, even (or especially) what we consider ethical trophy hunting.

I find the best way to personally combat this is with reasoned and fact based discussions one on one with people I know well enough that they will let me explain my side, even though they may disagree.

Each and every one of us can make some difference by knowing at least basic facts, talking openly and with reason to non hunters who will listen to our side.

 

[Christina Nyczepir]

This has absolutely nothing to do with hunting. Just more evidence that there are people in this world who are born with no conscience. I educate people on the human trafficking issue and study all aspects of it to better inform others so they are more alert to the signs of it. A film of someone molesting a child (as he cuts her throat) easily sells for $20,000. And its a multi-billion dollar business. There are African Outfitters out there who are more than happy to allow a client to just wound an animal (all for the sick thrill of stalking it afterwards) if the money is right. These creatures are all one and the same. Seriously damaged goods. I have to agree.....the name of the business speaks to how they get their jollies. I'm sure they patted themselves on the backs at the cleverness of coming up with the name. P.S. No way did I watch the video. I didn't have to. Your comments said it all, and I know enough of just how evil people in this world can get.

 

[Bwanabob]

After reading all the comments and reviewing my own feelings on this video I was struck by the similarity of "our" reactions to the "other" folks reactions to a hunting issue.

These comments were about the GQ article.
Here is a sample of comments posted in reaction to this question: What kind of person would shoot an elephant?:

"I couldn't even get through the first page of this article. I believe that people like this are psychotic. I understand hunting for food, but to kill a magnificent creature like an elephant to feed their ego is just heartbreaking. What a bunch of pieces of shit."

"An idiot and a coward that deserves nothing short of what he did to the animals."

"The picture of her smiling next to the posable dead elephant with faint streak of blood is creepily eery. What feeling supersedes the fact that animal died for no better reason than pride and ego...shameful, disgusting, insane"

"Hunting for sport alone is stupid. You want to make it a real sport? Make it to where there's a real chance that the hunter can get hurt as well."

"can we hunt them and see how they feel? I wouldent mind shooting these ppl"

"I can't understand this kind of thing... theres no justify... ignorance."

However, there is a difference between WHY we feel the way we do, when we see blatant acts of cruelty and law-breaking, and what the anti-hunters feel when they discuss hunting in general.

Most anti-hunters know absolutely nothing about hunting, how it is conducted or why it is conducted. Many simply regurgitate the images thrust upon them by deceitful organisations, such as PETA and IDA; just to name two of the most dishonest. The general public are neither with us or against us; they are actually not opposed to hunting when it is conducted correctly. However, they are easily taken in by the lies of the anti-hunting organisations who describe us as fiends and psychopaths and these organisations get away with it because they are so vocal and they are definitely better at ‘marketing’ their cause than us hunters are at educating the public.

If you don’t know much about PETA, just take a look at the evil (and that is the only word to describe it) cartoons that PETA intend to malign fishermen and fisherwomen in the eyes of their children (see http://www.peta.org/features/daddy-kills-animals/).

And just take a look at how IDA put forward their view of hunting; “Hunting is a violent and cowardly form of outdoor “entertainment” that kills hundreds of millions of animals every year, many of whom are wounded and die a slow and painful death.” This quote is directly from their page on hunting.

It is almost as if Green Mile is a member of PETA or IDA, or in cahoots with them, and this is why we, the hunting fraternity, cannot afford to allow anyone, like Green Mile, to continue to operate and continue to provide such a great source of ammunition to the anti-hunters.

Why am I so angry with Green Mile and revolted by the video that has been aired? Because they have allowed cruelty, that is offensive to both hunters and non-hunters alike, to be carried out under the pretence of ‘hunting’, that they then have dared to defend their indefensible position and blame everyone else and, finally, they have put another nail into the coffin of legitimate sport hunting.

Green Mile, and the owners of Green Mile, should never be allowed to operate in the safari hunting industry ever again, not anywhere!

 

[tigris115]

And let's not forget that PETA needlessly euthanizes dogs and cats like crazy. http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

 

[ThomasBeaham]

Can one of our Tanzanian members please confirm if Green Mile Safaris has been reborn and now operating

as Shangri-La Wildlife? http://shangrilawildlife.com/contactus.html

The reason I ask is the P.O. Box that Shangri-La Wildlife has listed on their contact page is the EXACT

Box number listed on Green Mile Safaris old website.

See Post number 20 in this thread.

 

[ThomasBeaham]

Would someone here be so kind as to take a screen shot of Shangri-La Wildlife contact page and add it to this thread.

 

[Bruce]

DISGUSTING... cannot believe that more severe criminal charges were nor brought against ALL of these participants.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Would someone here be so kind as to take a screen shot of Shangri-La Wildlife contact page and add it to this thread.

Here you go:

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

And just for comparison.........

 

[ThomasBeaham]

Thank you 375 Ruger Fan.

 

[375 Ruger Fan]

Columbo is on the case...........

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Prison for them is not enough.
Witold

 

[Witold Krzyżanowski]

Green Mile Safari Co. Ltd. = bandits
Witold

 

[Brent in Az]

Yep. The sad thing is, these sleazy operators open up under a different name, and it's business as usual.

 

[thi9elsp]

Green Mile and Shangri-La were referenced on HBO Sports with Bryant Gumble with parts of this video shown. I'm disgusted with the video, the company and disappointed in Tanzania official who was asked about allowing them to come back in under a new name. Said they would investigate. How could they not have disallowed the group to come back?!

 

[Odinsraven]

Disgusting however Halal hunting ......so more of a religious thing .............

 

[ThomasBeaham]

Disgusting however Halal hunting ......so more of a religious thing .............

Running over a Reedbuck with a truck and slitting its neck is not a religious thing. It is abominable, as was 99% of the rest

of the $h*# in this snuff film.

 

[edward]

Neither could I. Much too upsetting to me.
If it were over here in North America they would be hunted down and jailed.

forget jailed,killed as slowly as possible!!!!!