Safari Vehicles in America

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Just opening up a thread to a.) Show what we did, and B.) to hear what you might have done. I know there's a lot of nice safari/hunter style vehicles out there, but very few in America. I'd love to see Rovers, Yotas, and anything else that you might be driving.

It all started with my fascination regarding the reliability of the African Land Cruiser Pickup. Those vehicles were never sold in the USA and fully tricked out they are a fortune, $80k-$100k new. Of course you can't import a new one, but I think you can bring in a 25 year old one which would be bastardized into a 4 door cab at best case since they didn't make them like that in the 1900s.

What I realized is the CLOSEST thing we have in America to Africa is the Toyota FJ Cruiser that was sold here from 2007 to 2014. (worldwide production ended in 2023) These things are bulletproof and have a slang name of "jeep recovery vehicles". They really can do things typically associated with Jeeps, but they can do it without having to drop $100k into a whole new drive train thanks to their bulletproof engine and gearbox.

So we set about getting a few FJs, perfect for places that require daily 4wd. This is when we learned about their legendary 500,000 mile reliability, that they have the highest resale price in America of any car, and that their frames rust out so you have to be mighty selective.

Our two FJs are daily drivers: a 2014 last model year, all options, highest HP engine, loaded vehicle with 60,000 miles. (it's in Sandstorm, roughly the same tan as the Toyotas in Africa. Our second is a rare bird, a 2008 Trail Teams Edition (classic white like many of the landcruisers) with 125,000 miles on it. We've done some restoration on these vehicles, particularly getting the frames absolutely perfect and doing custom interiors, updated infotainment, backup cameras, bluetooth, apple carplay, etc.

What we love about them is what I loved about the African bakkies, they are so ridiculously simple. Every knob is simple. Every part is easy to install. Every service activity is something I can teach a kid to do themselves.

The best part is sort of the worst part, cost. A good one sells today for more than its original MSRP 15 years ago. The good news is that those kept in good condition are free to own as your depreciation from use rarely outpaces appreciation of their value.

What are you all driving? FJ40s? Range Rovers? Land Rovers? 4runners? Old Landcruiser SUVs?
 
I know we don’t buy toys for practicality. But What kind of mileage do they get. Because the best off road models of Toyota and Lexus are known for terrible mileage.

Some of the most desirable Lexus overlanders get horrendous mileage
 
I know we don’t buy toys for practicality. But What kind of mileage do they get. Because the best off road models of Toyota and Lexus are known for terrible mileage.

Some of the most desirable Lexus overlanders get horrendous mileage

Toyotas are the very worst mileage of any car in their class. I think the FJs get around 15mpg in city, 19mpg in highway best case. Same for Tundra and Tacoma and 4runner.

But the tradeoff is worth it. If you buy a Chrysler product with MDS, or a GM product with AFM, your engine could blow at any moment between 1 mile and 70,000 miles. So yes the mileage is better, but the active fuel management destroys engines.
 
Don't know what the heck you're doing to your toyotas but my 2004 Hilux 4x4 still gets 11 lt per 100 km (appox 21.5 mpg US).

You answered your own question regarding mileage difference. Welcome to America and the EPA emissions rules!

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Yes we strangle motor efficiency with 500 pounds of air, fuel plastic garbage. Not as bad as Europe but California is close behind
 
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Just opening up a thread to a.) Show what we did, and B.) to hear what you might have done. I know there's a lot of nice safari/hunter style vehicles out there, but very few in America. I'd love to see Rovers, Yotas, and anything else that you might be driving.

It all started with my fascination regarding the reliability of the African Land Cruiser Pickup. Those vehicles were never sold in the USA and fully tricked out they are a fortune, $80k-$100k new. Of course you can't import a new one, but I think you can bring in a 25 year old one which would be bastardized into a 4 door cab at best case since they didn't make them like that in the 1900s.

What I realized is the CLOSEST thing we have in America to Africa is the Toyota FJ Cruiser that was sold here from 2007 to 2014. (worldwide production ended in 2023) These things are bulletproof and have a slang name of "jeep recovery vehicles". They really can do things typically associated with Jeeps, but they can do it without having to drop $100k into a whole new drive train thanks to their bulletproof engine and gearbox.

So we set about getting a few FJs, perfect for places that require daily 4wd. This is when we learned about their legendary 500,000 mile reliability, that they have the highest resale price in America of any car, and that their frames rust out so you have to be mighty selective.

Our two FJs are daily drivers: a 2014 last model year, all options, highest HP engine, loaded vehicle with 60,000 miles. (it's in Sandstorm, roughly the same tan as the Toyotas in Africa. Our second is a rare bird, a 2008 Trail Teams Edition (classic white like many of the landcruisers) with 125,000 miles on it. We've done some restoration on these vehicles, particularly getting the frames absolutely perfect and doing custom interiors, updated infotainment, backup cameras, bluetooth, apple carplay, etc.

What we love about them is what I loved about the African bakkies, they are so ridiculously simple. Every knob is simple. Every part is easy to install. Every service activity is something I can teach a kid to do themselves.

The best part is sort of the worst part, cost. A good one sells today for more than its original MSRP 15 years ago. The good news is that those kept in good condition are free to own as your depreciation from use rarely outpaces appreciation of their value.

What are you all driving? FJ40s? Range Rovers? Land Rovers? 4runners? Old Landcruiser SUVs?
I think we need to see some pics of yours too!!
 
I know Toyota, Nissan, and Range Rover are the Safari Vehicles of the time but once upon a time Jeep was used extensively too…
The couple of Jeep CJ-6’s in the movie “Hatari” are favorites of mine so I have the modern day version of it. This is my 2006 Jeep LJ, a long wheel base two door…
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I heard these were really good vehicles. How do you like it thus far?
We’ve only had it a week but so far I love it. Everything I’ve heard and read about them is great. Has a lot of great features. I think the 2025s are going to be a lot different. They’re supposedly moving from the v6 to turbo 4s, among other things.

Didn’t want another payment as we were just down to our mortgage but our other vehicle wasn’t reliable and was costing us money. It’s great to have something that is known for dependability and reliability and is also rugged and capable as well. It being gold certified from Toyota is awesome (as far as I know) too because of the warranties in case of issues although I don’t expect any. Can’t wait to pay it off early and see how many miles we can put on it.
 
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I drive a 2007 Tundra 4x4 TRD with 145K miles. I don't drive it like they do in Africa for one reason--mesquite thorns that supposedly are not repairable due to the hollowness of the thorns. How do they deal with thorns in Africa BTW? Can you just switch over to tubes inside the tires? I have seen almost new offroad tires swapped out for this reason.
 
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The 2023 4Runners with 10,000 miles are selling above original sticker price.

The new 25-26 4Runner is going to be an abomination. 4 cylinder turbo hybrid. Their fan base is none too impressed.

The Tacoma, FJ, and until this year, 4Runner all used bullet proof, 500,000 mile reliable v6s.
 
Probably also a diesel! If we could get the diesel Hilux engine in the U.S. it would be amazing.
Let's prevail on Trump to make it legal!! If he can unburden us of EVs he can open up diesel 4 cyl?
 

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