Politics

[Tam Dl]

I saw a clip of a comedian saying that last year, Canada spent more money on reparation to the natives type stuff than they did on their military. I'll let others look up the facts on that but I would say it sounds plausible.

It is plausible, there was one huge bill Trudy paid on the way out. 20 billion. It is like everything else, you crash the economy to crash the people. Same thing with his lies on residential schools. Slightly different MO. However, I don't know if they have delivered on the cash, or it is just a promise to unfold at some future time.

Though I would say that given that only the US has ever invaded Canada, and that we were something like 5 years combined early for the world wars, taught the US on spycraft and SF, our way was paid. Plus when we show up for joint operations we tend to get bombed.

Of course past history.

As far as I can figure out, the current unpleasantness is due to the fact China has excess influence with the Liberals, same deal over the Huawei mess post 2016. Yet dozy Canadian voters want to up their street cred by bringing a more connected leader Who will be "tough" unless you are Chinese Communist Adjacent. Might be the right move, Bannon seemed a little beaten on AI the other day.

 

[Tam Dl]

I am not trying talk down the many lives that went lost during the two world wars to achieve peace. It was horrible. Most europeans actually learn this in their high schools. In case people forget there are lots of graveyards ovrhere to remind But all countries who goes to war has a political selfinterest. What do we get out it?. America is not an altruistic country.

In regards to all this “ you can not defend yourselves you need us from america”. The truth is “yes”. But what you have not been taught is Europe has on on 2-3 occasions since 1945 tried to become independed from the US in regards to build up a strong military force, but was stopped by the US in doing so. The previous political america didn’t want a strong europe. It was so funny to hear Mr. Trump expressing his lack of history here the other day in regards to why the establishment of the EU. One could only laugh but just a little as this idiote and his juvenile administration may try to ruin it for us, but also ruined for you. Atleast you get the MAGA hats and we don’t.

Since you will cut all europeans over the same ruler as me who are obvious arrogant and disrespectful let me tell how we see you guys. We sort of have a saying overhere that americans and europeans are equally stupid, but the americans have never tried to hide it!.

The US myth is that they won both world wars and did it for freedom. They were massively late, particularly in WWI, so late, the French leadership that was feeding and supplying them, regardless of what fantasies Mike Venturino has about US equipment for WWI, had to shame them to get them to go to the front. Asking whether they only intended to show up for the talks at the end. Brilliant, but they needed some street cred first.

And it was a smart play. Show up late. Let other people win it for you, take over the British role, though different because the US is the most blessed land on earth, and actually has most of what they need. The myth would have been a stupid strategy, the practicality was smart. I like my allies smart.

 

[BSO Dave]

In regards to all this “ you can not defend yourselves you need us from america”. The truth is “yes”. But what you have not been taught is Europe has on on 2-3 occasions since 1945 tried to become independed from the US in regards to build up a strong military force, but was stopped by the US in doing so. The previous political america didn’t want a strong europe. It was so funny to hear Mr. Trump expressing his lack of history here the other day in regards to why the establishment of the EU. One could only laugh but just a little as this idiote and his juvenile administration may try to ruin it for us, but also ruined for you. Atleast you get the MAGA hats and we don’t.

I have no idea where you acquired your assertion that the U.S. never wanted a strong Europe capable of defending itself? I would like to hear specific examples of this because if that were indeed true, I don't see the U.S. ever allowing France or Great Britian to acquire nuclear weapons... Furthermore, the U.S currently has nuclear weapons positioned throughout several more EU countries via the NATO Nuclear Sharing Agreement...

In as much as your assertions of Trump not understanding the history behind the establishment of the EU, I would say he has a laser clear understanding of at least two very important concepts: One being how European tariffs have been extremely lopsided for decades, and the other being that the EU has not been paying its fair share for their NATO defense which, by the way, contradicts your theory that the U.S. does not want a strong EU capable of defending itself...

Please also enlighten me as to what you think Trump is ruing for you? If the Trump Administration has as much power and control over EU affairs as you allege, that is further proof that you are all collectively too dependent on the U.S... Hopefully, Trump will soon fix that situation for both of us...

Since you will cut all europeans over the same ruler as me who are obvious arrogant and disrespectful let me tell how we see you guys. We sort of have a saying overhere that americans and europeans are equally stupid, but the americans have never tried to hide it!.

I don't think you Europeans fully comprehend that a majority of Americans could care less what Europeans think of them, hence your arrogance... Most of us view Europe as the crash test dummy for liberalism... I understand that even after all of these years it still must be difficult to admit that if it weren't for us "stupid" Americans you would all be speaking German or Russian... And I agree that we Americans are equally stupid, at least to the extent that we will be there to bail your asses out again the next time... The caveat is that if it were to occur within the next 3 years and 9 months, you will have the privilege of paying for it...

The US myth is that they won both world wars and did it for freedom. They were massively late, particularly in WWI, so late, the French leadership that was feeding and supplying them, regardless of what fantasies Mike Venturino has about US equipment for WWI, had to shame them to get them to go to the front. Asking whether they only intended to show up for the talks at the end. Brilliant, but they needed some street cred first.

And it was a smart play. Show up late. Let other people win it for you, take over the British role, though different because the US is the most blessed land on earth, and actually has most of what they need. The myth would have been a stupid strategy, the practicality was smart. I like my allies smart.

This perspective is quite frankly narrow and disrespectful to the tens of thousands of Americans who never came back from WWI or WW2... They went when they were called and fought very bravely for the concept of freedom regardless of what you think the underlying politics of it were...

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

With roughly 1 in 6 Canadians voting in the early polls this election is shaping up to have the highest voter turn out in decades.

 

[steve white]

I have no idea where you acquired your assertion that the U.S. never wanted a strong Europe capable of defending itself? I would like to hear specific examples of this because if that were indeed true, I don't see the U.S. ever allowing France or Great Britian to acquire nuclear weapons... Furthermore, the U.S currently has nuclear weapons positioned throughout several more EU countries via the NATO Nuclear Sharing Agreement...

In as much as your assertions of Trump not understanding the history behind the establishment of the EU, I would say he has a laser clear understanding of at least two very important concepts: One being how European tariffs have been extremely lopsided for decades, and the other being that the EU has not been paying its fair share for their NATO defense which, by the way, contradicts your theory that the U.S. does not want a strong EU capable of defending itself...

Please also enlighten me as to what you think Trump is ruing for you? If the Trump Administration has as much power and control over EU affairs as you allege, that is further proof that you are all collectively too dependent on the U.S... Hopefully, Trump will soon fix that situation for both of us...



I don't think you Europeans fully comprehend that a majority of Americans could care less what Europeans think of them, hence your arrogance... Most of us view Europe as the crash test dummy for liberalism... I understand that even after all of these years it still must be difficult to admit that if it weren't for us "stupid" Americans you would all be speaking German or Russian... And I agree that we Americans are equally stupid, at least to the extent that we will be there to bail your asses out again the next time... The caveat is that if it were to occur within the next 3 years and 9 months, you will have the privilege of paying for it...



This perspective is quite frankly narrow and disrespectful to the tens of thousands of Americans who never came back from WWI or WW2... They went when they were called and fought very bravely for the concept of freedom regardless of what you think the underlying politics of it were...

I can only imagine that TamDi was referencing opposition to GERMAN rearmament, since they were major players in two world wars two decades apart. Many German firearms firms had to go to pellet gun manufacture or make other things altogether, like bicycles and domestic implements.

 

[spike.t]

With roughly 1 in 6 Canadians voting in the early polls this election is shaping up to have the highest voter turn out in decades.

From the news item I posted it seems the liberals were in front in the polls unfortunately.....

 

[Tubby’s Canteen]

From the news item I posted it seems the liberals were in front in the polls unfortunately.....

5 point lead currently unfortunately is an understatement.

 

[rigbymauser]

I can only imagine that TamDi was referencing opposition to GERMAN rearmament, since they were major players in two world wars two decades apart. Many German firearms firms had to go to pellet gun manufacture or make other things altogether, like bicycles and domestic implements.

Here is the best (shortest)explanation I could find:

As stated before here on this forum. Lots of europeans wants independence from US military presence but still see US as an allied and trading partner. Europe has the same problems with China as US has but maybe just in a lesser scale.

Just heard an older danish former CEO here today expressing his views in regards to Trump and the problems the US already have:

- China has stolen upwards 2,5mill jobs from the US in the past 30 years.
- China steal patents from the US and violate protectionrights.
- China export ingredients to Mexiland for fentanyl export to the US.
- China establish productionplants in Mexiland to overflow the US with cheap items.
so the US worker can not compete on equal terms.
- Mexiland emty their lowest regions to make them across the Rio Grande. They work illegal or recieve welfare but they also weire more than 12bill USD goes back to Mexi.
-In case of war(examble China) a majority of all medical supplies are made in China.
-Eu tariffs are higher on certain items, but with the BigTech companies its the other way around. The US makes the best BBQ chickens in the world, why don`t we see them overhere?.
- Why does EU keep spending money on Putins warmachine with buying oil & gas, when Trump has offered the EU better prices?. Why should the US help EU with war in Russia if EU are fighting against their own "economics"?.

This was a 32 min interview. Just to make clear. Many(some) Europeans do see the problems the US and EU have that must be dealt with.

 

[rigbymauser]

I don't think you Europeans fully comprehend that a majority of Americans could care less what Europeans think of them, hence your arrogance... Most of us view Europe as the crash test dummy for liberalism... I understand that even after all of these years it still must be difficult to admit that if it weren't for us "stupid" Americans you would all be speaking German or Russian... And I agree that we Americans are equally stupid, at least to the extent that we will be there to bail your asses out again the next time... The caveat is that if it were to occur within the next 3 years and 9 months, you will have the privilege of paying for it...

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe its for the better.

 

[Wheels]

.... Europe has the same problems with China as US has but maybe just in a lesser scale....

Europe's trade deficit with China is pretty close to equal Europe's trade surplus with America.

In the end, most countries will probably come to an agreement with America. As part of that agreement, most countries will probably be set in a much better position regarding China. There will be a massive squeeze put on China that China will have a hard time dealing with, since China has a 1T trade surplus with the world. If Europe has the fortitude to follow through in addressing China along with a deal with America, things should wash out fairly well for Europe.

 

[Wheels]

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe its for the better.

There are definitely a number of ignorant American's, but it is hyperbole to use the term "most".

 

[spike.t]

Useless labour fktards

 

[Rocked and Loaded]

There are definitely a number of ignorant American's, but it is hyperbole to use the term "most".

Ironically, I’ve often been astounded at how ignorant many Europeans are of American culture and history beyond cultural exports like McDonald’s, Coca Cola, and Hollywood. They have a lot of misunderstandings about how large and diverse the United States really is (culturally and geographically).

 

[CJW]

NM judge resigns after Tren De Aragua gang member arrested in his home. You can't make this crap up.

 

[BSO Dave]

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe its for the better.

LOL..!

I would like to know what exactly experience or qualifications you feel you have that makes you any kind of authority on what "most" Americans know or think about the state of the world outside our borders? Are you some sort of ambassador to the U.S.?

I consider myself pretty well traveled, as are many other Americans on this site, and it has been my personal experience that it's actually the Europeans that are clueless as to what "most" Americans know, think, and feel... In all of my recent travels (since Trump's first term until today) Europeans have a profoundly perverted view of America via their own country's propaganda... In all fairness, it's not just Europeans, but almost all outside of the U.S. who are ruled by socialist governments with left-leaning media are ignorant of these realities...

I have found that most, if not all of my overseas neighbors that I have encountered have a caricature ideology of Trump and his supporters which has been happily provided for them by the far-left media's narrative that is far worse in Europe than in the U.S., if that is even possible... Even the Europeans and other foreign visitors that do come here are most often visiting the deepest blue locations of this country. Any foreigner visiting New York, California, or any of the New England and Pacific Northwestern states cannot say they have truly experienced Americana or know the real American people... Therefore, they have no actual idea of what the majority of most Americans think or feel.

Putting my own "America First" feelings aside, I think you would be pleasantly surprised to find that most Americans (at least those outside of the far-left) are the most unselfish and benevolent people on this planet who care deeply what happens outside our borders even though the rest of the world continues to shit on us at every opportunity...

 

[Altitude sickness]

Check out this guy.

The guy stepping in at the WEF is an even creepier Bond villain than Klaus Schwab

Welp, Klaus Schwab is out at the World Economic Forum, but the guy stepping in as interim chair might be an even more creepy, over-the-top Bond villain than Klaus was, and that's saying something.

notthebee.com

 

[Scott CWO]

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe its for the better.

With approximately 340 million people in the USA, I can assure you that there are far more people in the USA that are educated and know plenty about the rest of the world than in your small country. Even considering the EU in total having about 449 million people, I’m quite sure the percentages are fairly equal. With about 24 different languages in the EU and a fair amount of people in each country that are not bilingual, you’re no brain trust. Your arrogance is real albeit unfounded in reality. Your socialist leanings, ridiculously slanted media and stagnant economies don’t bode well for intelligence.

 

[CJW]

Ironically, I’ve often been astounded at how ignorant many Europeans are of American culture and history beyond cultural exports like McDonald’s, Coca Cola, and Hollywood. They have a lot of misunderstandings about how large and diverse the United States really is (culturally and geographically).

To the geographical point, the contiguous 48 are 3.1 million square miles. Alaska is an extra 663,000 square miles. Excluding Russia, Ukraine is Europe's largest country at 233,000 square miles.

 

[CJW]

Check out this guy.

The guy stepping in at the WEF is an even creepier Bond villain than Klaus Schwab

Welp, Klaus Schwab is out at the World Economic Forum, but the guy stepping in as interim chair might be an even more creepy, over-the-top Bond villain than Klaus was, and that's saying something.

notthebee.com

He and Schwab were born for Hollywood.

 

[Scott CWO]

Most americans barely know much about anything outside their country and sometimes even outside their own state. So no I don`t expect americans to even care we even exist. And maybe it’s for the better.

While not an exact indication of intelligence, travel outside one’s own continent can help one to more than “barely know much about anything outside their country.” So, I am curious, how many countries have you been to outside of Europe?

My count outside of North America and also not counting anywhere in South America and Central America is twenty-one without ever serving in the military. There are hordes of Americans that are way more well-traveled than I am, including several on this platform. Know your audience!