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More trees than in recorded history??

Do tell how when compared to this?
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He’s actually correct. Or at least he is in the US…

The US has almost 300 billion trees now and is the fourth most forested country in the world today..

Over the last hundred years there has been a huge push to increase woodlands…

And trees are big business.. which has resulted in very careful forest management in most states (clearly not California)..,

 
He’s actually correct. Or at least he is in the US…

The US has almost 300 billion trees now and is the fourth most forested country in the world today..

Over the last hundred years there has been a huge push to increase woodlands…

And trees are big business.. which has resulted in very careful forest management in most states (clearly not California)..,

Well I’ll be, thanks! (y)
Definitely a surprise. I guess it’s just not much old growth stuff left.
 
Well I’ll be, thanks! (y)
Definitely a surprise. I guess it’s just not much old growth stuff left.

Depends on the location..

There’s actually an old growth problem in Northern Idaho on huge swaths of US Forestry Service lands.. the USFS hasn’t maintained it well and the old growth is so thick (combined with the terrain being super difficult) that it’s choking out new growth, while at the same time, in such bad shape that it doesn’t have enough monetary value to motivate anyone to timber it..

But my understanding is you’re correct regarding a huge amount of the US.. it’s majority young timber..
 
If these allegations are true, it is concerning that the Capitol Police can not keep firearms out of the buildings they are supposed to protect including the Capitol during the inauguration. Something Johnson should probably look into.

 
Not to state the obvious, but this is not 1920.
Yeah, I couldn’t find the one I was looking for that went more recent.

I didn't realize satellite imagery was so keen back then. :p

Ha-ha :P

Depends on the location..

There’s actually an old growth problem in Northern Idaho on huge swaths of US Forestry Service lands.. the USFS hasn’t maintained it well and the old growth is so thick (combined with the terrain being super difficult) that it’s choking out new growth, while at the same time, in such bad shape that it doesn’t have enough monetary value to motivate anyone to timber it..

But my understanding is you’re correct regarding a huge amount of the US.. it’s majority young timber..
I don’t understand how it can have a problem if it’s how it naturally goes. I guess to human standards it has issues?
Like fires over here being necessary for reducing fire load - you’d think it’s just the natural process to build up, burn really bad, kill lots of trees off, they fall, new habitat from that, new growth, repeat? (Australia eucalypt ecosystem).
 
If these allegations are true, it is concerning that the Capitol Police can not keep firearms out of the buildings they are supposed to protect including the Capitol during the inauguration. Something Johnson should probably look into.

Surprised they don’t have to walk through scanners or the security is just getting lazy.
 
Surprised they don’t have to walk through scanners or the security is just getting lazy.

They do have to go through scanners. Perhaps they are lazy but I have a feeling they were known and waived through. I doubt any of those carrying had any mal intent but it does seem to show a lack of seriousness in the USCP regarding protection.
 
At a recent news conference Doug ford alluded to stopping shipments of potash uranium and nickel as well as a 25% tariff on energy to the U.S.

If Canada were to withhold potash until a trade deal was finalized how would that effect U.S. farmers? It’s my understanding 87% of all potash fertilizer used in America comes from Saskatchewan.
 
At a recent news conference Doug ford alluded to stopping shipments of potash uranium and nickel as well as a 25% tariff on energy to the U.S.

If Canada were to withhold potash until a trade deal was finalized how would that effect U.S. farmers? It’s my understanding 87% of all potash fertilizer used in America comes from Saskatchewan.
Sounds like something they need to start producing state side, if possible.
 
Sounds like something they need to start producing state side, if possible.

You do realize potash is a mineral which is mined right? iF a deposit could be identified in the U.S. the chances of being able to have the infrastructure in place by planting season to mine and process the amount need are next to zero.
 
At a recent news conference Doug ford alluded to stopping shipments of potash uranium and nickel as well as a 25% tariff on energy to the U.S.

If Canada were to withhold potash until a trade deal was finalized how would that effect U.S. farmers? It’s my understanding 87% of all potash fertilizer used in America comes from Saskatchewan.

It would be pretty dramatic. How would the government of Canada compensate the Ag firms for
Their lost sales?
 
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Sounds like something they need to start producing state side, if possible.

It’s not produced, it’s mined. No deposit, no mine, no production.
 
At a recent news conference Doug ford alluded to stopping shipments of potash uranium and nickel as well as a 25% tariff on energy to the U.S.

If Canada were to withhold potash until a trade deal was finalized how would that effect U.S. farmers? It’s my understanding 87% of all potash fertilizer used in America comes from Saskatchewan.

No wonder Trump is hacked Zelensky isn't signing the minerals deal. ;)
 
You do realize potash is a mineral which is mined right? iF a deposit could be identified in the U.S. the chances of being able to have the infrastructure in place by planting season to mine and process the amount need are next to zero.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potash#See_also

@Tubby’s Canteen you are usually a wise sage on all the topics you comment on, but in this case you don't know your ash from a mine (a hole in the ground)

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By the 18th century, higher quality American potash was increasingly exported to Britain. In the late 18th and early 19th centuries, potash production provided settlers in North America badly needed cash and credit as they cleared wooded land for crops. To make full use of their land, settlers needed to dispose of excess wood. The easiest way to accomplish this was to burn any wood not needed for fuel or construction. Ashes from hardwood trees could then be used to make lye, which could either be used to make soap or boiled down to produce valuable potash. Hardwood could generate ashes at the rate of 60 to 100 bushels per acre (500 to 900 m3/km2). In 1790, the sale of ashes could generate $3.25 to $6.25 per acre ($800 to $1,500/km2) in rural New York State – nearly the same rate as hiring a laborer to clear the same area. Potash making became a major industry in British North America. Great Britain was always the most important market. The American potash industry followed the woodsman's ax across the country.

The Permian Basin deposit includes the major mines outside of Carlsbad, New Mexico, to the world's purest potash deposit in Lea County, New Mexico (near the Carlsbad deposits), which is believed to be roughly 80% pure. (Osceola County, Michigan, has deposits 90+% pure; the only mine there was converted to salt production, however.) Canada is the largest producer, followed by Russia and Belarus. The most significant reserve of Canada's potash is located in the province of Saskatchewan and is mined by The Mosaic Company, Nutrien and K+S.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potash#cite_note-usgs2-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a>
 
It would be pretty dramatic. How would the government of Canada compensate the Ag firms for
Their lost sales?

My guess and that is all it is , withhold potash long enough to force the U.S. into a trade negotiations without actually delaying spring planting. Otherwise why advertise it now and not withhold it when you could do the most damage figuratively speaking. The obvious fear would be trump playing along just long enough to see the crops in the ground and then going off on another tantrum because someone dared stand up to him.
 
At a recent news conference Doug ford alluded to stopping shipments of potash uranium and nickel as well as a 25% tariff on energy to the U.S.

If Canada were to withhold potash until a trade deal was finalized how would that effect U.S. farmers? It’s my understanding 87% of all potash fertilizer used in America comes from Saskatchewan.

Ford is all blow and no go… this is no different than his threat to shut US govt contractor out of Ontario… which would cost +/- 10,000 Canadians their jobs…

If the US consumes that much potash from Canada… WABs point is right on target..

Potash is a low value, high volume product… it currently trades at about $318 per metric ton.

So you’re not putting it on a container ship and sending it anywhere else… the cost of getting it where you want it to go would increase the price outside of anything close to its market value..

Either you use it yourself (Canada can’t absorb that much of its own potash) or you sell it to your neighbor… or you shut down the mine and once again, Canadians are out of jobs…

This threat is just about as dumb as Freelands statement about needing UK nuke to protect Canada from US aggression…

Just extreme leftist politicians pandering to the ill advised and unaware population…
 

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