Politics

[WAB]

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I’ve done the Imperial War Museum in London many times. Never any of the Canadian ones. I’ll have to make a trip up there for that.

Have you been through Churchill’s war rooms? One of the truly great museums. Follow that with a visit to Blenheim Palace and you get a true sense of the man.

 

[Russ16]

Have you been through Churchill’s war rooms? One of the truly great museums. Follow that with a visit to Blenheim Palace and you get a true sense of the man.

Yeah two years ago was lucky enough to get a private guided tour where we were allowed inside the glassed off areas in the war rooms. Very cool.

 

[mdwest]

Patel has the votes also.

Im pretty sure he wont be getting Adam Schiff's vote though lol...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1889726098776150173

 

[Altitude sickness]

With regards to Trump/ Putin negotiations. Ask anyone who interrogates and prosecutes the most heinous animals on the planet.

You don’t get them to come to the table or spill their guts unless you act like you understand why they did what they have done. and are actually even on their side a little bit.

You never go in throwing tables and strong arming them. It’s a very common tactic.

It shows me Trump is using a combination of his negotiating skills, and more importantly, he is obviously listening to somebody on how to talk to Putin. a very Wiley KGB agent

 

[mdwest]

I see no harm in Trump talking to anyone.. (Putin, Rocket Man, The Ayotollahs, or anyone else)..

Talks are an opportunity to gather intelligence, knowledge, understanding, etc.. and potentially find a path forward that is advantageous to you...

We can talk to Zelensky for the next hundred years.. That means nothing unless Ukraine can defeat Russia (with our support).. and "defeat" is a term that we'd have to come to an agreement on in terms of our understanding and definition..

If we talk to both Zelensky and Putin there is a possibility that we find the best path forward for the US.. that is actually an acceptable path for Zelensky and Putin as well..

I don't belive Trump deep down really cares about whats best for Russia or whats best for Ukraine.. he cares about whats best for the US...

I don't think he can figure out how to get there without talking to all parties involved to one degree or another..

 

[Red Leg]

With regards to Trump/ Putin negotiations. Ask anyone who interrogates and prosecutes the most heinous animals on the planet.

You don’t get them to come to the table or spill their guts unless you act like you understand why they did what they have done. and are actually even on their side a little bit.

You never go in throwing tables and strong arming them. It’s a very common tactic.

It shows me Trump is using a combination of his negotiating skills, and more importantly, he is obviously listening to somebody on how to talk to Putin. a very Wiley KGB agent

You may be correct. I pray you are. But I have no confidence that is the case, and Hegseth's comments sounded all too much like something that could have originated in Munich in 38.

I believe the country would be better served if Trump showed as much interest in creating a stable and secure Ukraine as he has in building an Atlantic City East in Gaza.

 

[Hunt anything]

You may be correct. I pray you are. But I have no confidence that is the case, and Hegseth's comments sounded all too much like something that could have originated in Munich in 38.

I believe the country would be better served if Trump showed as much interest in creating a stable and secure Ukraine as he has in building an Atlantic City East in Gaza.

Definitely has some Chamberlin overtones. Did Hegseth mention the territory that Russia has gained recently or just the Crimea from 2014?
It seems Russia really wants the Black Sea port.

 

[Tundra Tiger]

Im pretty sure he wont be getting Adam Schiff's vote though lol...

https://twitter.com/x/status/1889726098776150173

Schiff is one of the biggest hypocritical twatwaffle douche bags in Washington. The only good he has brought to the world is providing inspiration for Tom Shilleu's parody of him on Gutfeld. He is using up oxygen that could be better spent on lower life forms.

 

[Hunt anything]

You may be correct. I pray you are. But I have no confidence that is the case, and Hegseth's comments sounded all too much like something that could have originated in Munich in 38.

I believe the country would be better served if Trump showed as much interest in creating a stable and secure Ukraine as he has in building an Atlantic City East in Gaza.

Never mind, seems like he was referring to pre Crimea invasion, I could be wrong.

 

[gbflyer]

Definitely has some Chamberlin overtones. Did Hegseth mention the territory that Russia has gained recently or just the Crimea from 2014?
It seems Russia really wants the Black Sea port.

Russia needs the port. Bad.

 

[Altitude sickness]

You may be correct. I pray you are. But I have no confidence that is the case, and Hegseth's comments sounded all too much like something that could have originated in Munich in 38.

I believe the country would be better served if Trump showed as much interest in creating a stable and secure Ukraine as he has in building an Atlantic City East in Gaza.

I think the Gaza strategy is to act like it’s very valuable Real Estate. so Jordan and Egypt would want to take it over. in trade for taking Palestinians inside their borders.

Whether they want to admit it right now or not Egypt and Jordan are getting the Palestinians

With some liberal Europeans taking a few to make themselves feel better

 

[Newboomer]

Trump to have a news conference tomorrow and read names of recipients of waste and fraud totaling billions. Trump is overwhelming the media and building public support. A couple months ago Elon said he would be done by July 4, 2026 and we would have a celebration. I would have been happy if he could go through 25% of the budget in four years. He may make his goal.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1889794177631948865

YES!! Make public all those names and prosecute where necessary.

 

[Lone Star Bluegrass]

You may be correct. I pray you are. But I have no confidence that is the case, and Hegseth's comments sounded all too much like something that could have originated in Munich in 38.

I believe the country would be better served if Trump showed as much interest in creating a stable and secure Ukraine as he has in building an Atlantic City East in Gaza.

Your concern is well founded. There are many of us that see more 1914 in this situation than ‘38–I believe that Hegseth is one of them judging by his comments on not committing US troops into Ukraine under any circumstances.

In a 1910 staff ride in France with Marshal Foch, British Major General asked Foch what the smallest British unit would be needed to held defend France. Foch responded “A single British soldier, and we’ll be sure that he is killed,” knowing this would fully commit the British to the hilt.

 

[Red Leg]

Never mind, seems like he was referring to pre Crimea invasion, I could be wrong.

Russia needs the port. Bad.

Ukraine will not see Crimea again short of a total Russian collapse as a state - not impossible. But it would be criminal and clearly not in our interests to reward Russia with all the ground it has occupied during this invasion. Kherson and Zaporizhzhia in particular are only partially occupied and strongly Ukrainian rather than Russian. Luhansk and Donetsk are culturally more aligned with Russia, though both voted by significant majorities to be part of Ukraine during the plebiscite 0f 1991.

 

[mdwest]

RFK Jr is now confirmed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kennedy-clear-final-senate-hurdle-bid-top-us-health-job-2025-02-13/

Once again, McConnel is the lone republican to vote no..

 

[Red Leg]

RFK Jr is now confirmed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kennedy-clear-final-senate-hurdle-bid-top-us-health-job-2025-02-13/

Once again, McConnel is the lone republican to vote no..

Bitter old and ill. It is a not uncommon condition.

 

[Newboomer]

RFK Jr is now confirmed.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/kennedy-clear-final-senate-hurdle-bid-top-us-health-job-2025-02-13/

Once again, McConnel is the lone republican to vote no..

McConnel needs to go. He has long outlived his questionable usefulness.

 

[Altitude sickness]

I think Biden not talking to Putin demonstrated an amateurish strategy. Like a school girl immaturity. “ I’m mad so I’m not talking the that person.”

Unfortunately, we don’t have the luxury of not talking to people we don’t agree with or like.

 

[Altitude sickness]

It’s understandable that “Cocaine Mitch” would be opposed to JFK. Him having Polio as a “yout”. Having a questioning attitude is not always viewed as a good thing.

We all need to remember we wouldn’t have the Supreme Court without Mitch

 

[Wheels]

Regarding Ukraine/Russia. I don't think Trump cares that much what the final terms are as long as he gets a reasonable peace plan in place fairly soon. Otherwise he would tell Zelensky to reinstate national elections and Trump will deal with the new leader whoever it is as representing the will of the Ukrainian people.

That said, we know that Trump is a negotiator. He named Keith Kellogg as envoy around Thanksgiving. Kellogg has now had over two months to work on a deal. Could it be Trump and Hegseth are just making public the agreed to positions of both parties at the moment. I certainly don't know that to be the case but it is a possibility.